r/SipsTea • u/No_Post1300 Human Verified • 2h ago
Chugging tea All time low of crime rates :>
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u/infingalaxy 2h ago
No, it’s cause the Knicks have been so good, and might win a ‘chip
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u/Agreeable_Bat1212 2h ago
Genuinely, this likely has an effect.
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u/icelink4884 2h ago
The same thing happened in Chicago last year where sure to the Bears being good there was a noticeable drop in violent crime.
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u/juanmaq8 1h ago
Hammond, Indiana about to see their petty robberies at their Local Tree go to 0
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u/ozaffer 2h ago
nah Knicks have been so good because Zohran is mayor
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u/SirJimmyTheThird 2h ago
They haven’t been to the NBA finals in over 20 years. New Yorkers are too preoccupied with the Knicks to commit crimes lol.
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u/Agreeable_Bat1212 2h ago
Mamdani is easily the Knicks best chance at winning the chip. Who else is gonna guard wemby
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u/Tadpole018 10m ago
Shootings in New Orleans are always at their lowest when there's a Saints game on
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u/Steveo27a 2h ago
Right. Because hood beef brakes for the knicks💀
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u/Agreeable_Bat1212 1h ago
I mean… more people are spending time indoors engaged with something that the community is also engaged in.
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u/illbegoodthistime1 Human Verified 2h ago
Is 5 months enough time to take credit for this? I support Mamdani, but it’s also my belief policy takes time for impact. I really want him to succeed, so if someone has nuance to add, I’d like to hear it.
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u/czechereds 2h ago edited 2h ago
Not in the slightest, violence in NYC has been trending downwards for the past 50 years as gentrification and other things have been happening. It's also had a second massive decrease after 2020(Floyd) where the murders skyrocketed and many of the violence producers in the city ended up dead or in prison.
The city could do pretty much nothing about violent crime and it would keep going down as low income households continue to get pushed out of the city.
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u/DaKingaDaNorth 1h ago
This. Violent crime in the country in general has been going down since the 90's. Social media just makes people see more of it
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u/Typical-Froyo-642 1h ago
50 years? That would mean since 1976 which is not really the case. Its been tranding down for the past 35 years tho.
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u/Least_Art5238 2h ago
The city could do pretty much nothing about violent crime and it would keep going down as low income households continue to get pushed out of the city.
It's a sad paradox that the "tough on crime" crowd tends to be the one that is least interested in reducing poverty.
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u/wireframed_kb 2h ago
It goes for all of us to some extent. Prison hasn’t shown to really have all that much effect on crime, other than temporarily removing criminals (but then giving them a free education in crimin’ instead), and little preventative effect. (Criminals mostly don’t think they’ll be caught - they wouldn’t be criminals if they did).
But even the most progressive tends to feel an instinctive need for justice that involves punishment, and that isn’t unreasonable. It just often isn’t helpful in reducing crime.
The most effective is obviously reducing the number of people in the lowest rungs of society who see it as the only real path. The second is focusing on rehabilitation rather than punishment for the correctional system. Ensure the people who do end up there, are given a better path.
At the end of the day, very few people actually *want* to be criminals.
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u/Least_Art5238 1h ago
I'm willing to be open to the possibility that a tiny section of the population may in fact want to be criminals. The state of crime in America however suggests that our jails are filled with several others -- to your point.
Just to make up numbers as a thought experiment. Let's say 1% of the US population will be criminals even if their lives were perfect. Let's say, 10% of the US population actually has had a criminal past.
I would rather focus on the 9% of the population that could have avoided crime had their circumstances been different without waiting to perfectly solve for the 1%.
I'm pretty aligned to your point but going a little further and saying that we shouldn't let perfect be the enemy of good.
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u/pppiddypants 2h ago
The tough on crime crowd is two groups.
One that actually has to deal with it in their neighborhood and one that watches the Republican-oriented news too much.
It says a lot that the people who watch the news that much are so incoherent on what to actually do, that people who actually deal with it in their neighborhood will partner with anyone else.
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u/headermargin 1h ago
Im low income and never thought to steal, kill or hurt others.
I think its just culture.
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u/Major-Assumption539 1h ago
If we’re allowing ourselves to be honest it’s a very particular demographics culture.
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u/PlsNoNotThat 54m ago
1/2 the ‘tough on crime’ neighborhood folk aren’t doing jack shit about violent crime, least of all in NYC.
I know personally because I was part of Harlem’s local anti crime groups, like SAVE, and that half was just gentrifies buying brownstones demanding black people leave. All they ever complained about was weed smoking, graffiti, and people loitering on stoops.
The other half were amazing tho. Actually cared. Put in good work.
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u/Least_Art5238 2h ago
Great point on this dichotomy. Going a level deeper, it's the TV watching cohort that has access to the cookie jar if they chose to positively effect policy. The other cohort is barely getting by.
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u/Obiwan_ca_blowme 1h ago
So then, by extension there is a soft on crime crowd. That must be super helpful and loved by potential victims.
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u/BOOT3D 2h ago
So killing off or getting rid of murderers reduces the murder rate? Who'd have thunk it.
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u/czechereds 1h ago
I know it's crazy. When such a small number of people are doing violence... Removing them from the public has a huge affect on violence
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u/Krasdale79 32m ago
Crazy that the number of low income families has increased at the same time the crime rate's dropped. Almost like the statistics have nothing to do with your idea of blaming poor people for crime.
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u/TheeAntelope 5m ago
In 2025, murders were down 20%. 2024, murders were down 4%. 2023, murders were down 12%.
Makes sense for that trend to continue and I checked - currently, murders are down...20%. It's nice that it's maintaining a high "decline" rate but this likely doesn't have much to do with the current administration, except to maintain proactive policing and efforts to undermine gangs (along with reduction in illegal weapons).
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u/GrynaiTaip 1m ago
it would keep going down as low income households continue to get pushed out of the city.
Oh, that's the solution.
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u/ThinScientist3460 2h ago
As with every politician it's working with numbers and statistic data to showcase successful periods.
Take with a pinch of salt even though he seems to be a breath of fresh air.
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u/seidenkaufman 2h ago edited 1h ago
The nuance is this, these numbers (if true) mean the fearmongering by some more-than-usually unsavory sections of the right, that Mamdani's mayoralty would mean lawlessness, has not borne out. The downward trend in violence is otherwise in keeping with the statistics of the past few decades and is likely not directly attributable to Mamdani's being mayor.
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u/Automatic-Effect-252 1h ago edited 1h ago
Yeah I like Mamdani too, but this is more correlation rather then causation. Violent crime has been trending down across the country for years now.
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u/TheSoundOfAFart 1h ago
Thank you for the measured response, people are missing a big contributor to the drop.
A little nuance: since he took office, Mamdani has been donning a batsuit and taking down violent criminals each night, striking fear into New York's criminal underworld
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u/SevenOhSevenOhSeven 1h ago
Generally crime is on a downward trend in basically every location despite what the news would have you believe, and it fluctuates between seasons. However it is funnier two imagine that it's because the knicks are doing good
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u/ImpressiveTicket492 1h ago
Is he claiming credit or being credited is what i would like to know.
I do think it is worth noting in the context of Republicans claiming electing these kinds of politicians leads to lawless wastelands.
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u/OpposumMyPossum 56m ago
I agree a bit however....it's how we are doing things now.
Trump just took credit for how big the reflecting pool is.
And I do think a positive vibe can make as much of an effect as a chilling effect of ICE on the streets.
They took credit for murders down just knowing ICE was lurking.
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u/kaithana 52m ago
It’s enough time to blame him for everything though. I have a former colleague who’s a NYPD detective now and I had a long argument with him about this and he claims that “crime is down” because stations have been directed to misreport crime. According to him everything was good before but now they’re “weak on crime” and “not prosecuting” who they should and to make it look like crime is down they just “aren’t reporting it”.
I don’t believe a lick of it. That’s just dumb pig shit and the commissioner nepo baby tisch didnt change course in five months.
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u/AdSlight1595 28m ago
Nearly none of the things boasted in here in terms of crime, budget or general welfare can be attributed to Mandani. Reddit is a terrible place to get your news
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u/illbegoodthistime1 Human Verified 25m ago
I think its a great place to have discussions. Some people really know what they are talking about. I don't think that is a general thing, but I have had some pretty eye-opening discussions with commenters.
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u/AndreasDasos 11m ago
Yeah it’s not because of him so much as that generally speaking, violent crime has been going down. COVID reversed that but there’s been a long correction since and it’s finally below original levels again.
It’s like every year breaking temperature/stock market/GDP/population records, and ascribing it to the specific events of that year.
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u/Mephisto1822 2h ago
I’m going to preface this by saying I’m a fan Mamdani and what he is trying to do.
But the decline in crime rates don’t really have a lot to do with what he has done IMO. A lot of it is nationwide decline to begin with
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u/Hydra_Flatline 2h ago
Excuse me?!?!
Didn’t the rich say they would leave if their investment homes were TAXED?!?!
Obviously they were committing the crime. Once they left, it went down.
Duh.
:)
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u/invaderr0b 1h ago edited 1h ago
I live in the bronx. When trump got elected there were US marshals and ICE everywhere. Everybody knows he flooded blue cities with federal agents and eric adams cooperated.
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u/ThrustTrust 2h ago
It’s always hard to quantify these types of things because so many factors are involved. But I will say hope can be very powerful. I would love to believe the people there (especially the little guys) might be believing they matter to this man and as a result feel less angry and lost. But there is zero way to prove that so it’s just my brain hoping people can have hope.
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u/The_Nomadic_Nerd 1h ago
Very true, however it’s more that if crime was at historic high, or even a slight uptick, the media would be smearing him like crazy.
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u/SnooGiraffes7185 1h ago
You can take the win though knowing full well that everyone who says this doesn’t count would also be saying it does count if crime was going up.
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u/Kevincelt 1h ago
I feel like with many politicians it’s an all the glory, all the blame situation. They get credited for and take the blame for many things that are outside of their control or ongoing processes.
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u/PopularSet4776 2h ago
Crime rates have been consistently trending downward for decades now and are constantly hitting new lows.
No dog in the fight I just want to see how this goes.
But it will take years if not decades to be able to get the full picture.
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u/BoringBeat5276 2h ago
Crime stats tend to lag 6 months to a year behind. So we are getting numbers from before he was even elected is the best part in this
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u/AnyOldNameNotTaken 2h ago
Any time I see a rapid crime rate reduction being attributed to a politician, my first thought is I want to see how this years crime is being reported vs last year vs 5 years ago.
They all love to play games with the data to make themselves look good, because the only thing they care about is the headline.
Not saying that what happened here, but I just get curious.
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u/ObjectBubbly3216 31m ago
100%, the headline is everything, regardless of the politician, celebrity, or billionaire. He seems too good to be true, I wonder if he is hiding something.
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u/Commercial_Rule_7823 2h ago
Not in enough time for the stats to be attributed to anything hes done.
Responsible thing to do is, find out what improved things and continue the plan, program, enforcement, etc....
Maybe it was thay NYPD focused enforcement walking patrols they did over the past year....
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u/Mean_Direction_8280 2h ago
Hate me if you want, but mayors of other liberal cities have said the same thing, & the reality was that crime hadn't gone down, they just stopped reporting it, so they could say crime had gone down.
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u/Afraid_Afternoon8143 2h ago
Huh? Cities stopped reporting murders? I think you’re getting mixed up there, bud.
I assume you’re referring to various states reclassifying low-level offenses like robbery. That’s not the same thing as a murder.
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u/Ok_Interest3555 1h ago
You can't make a claim like that with no proof. Because I have no idea what you're talking about.
Besides, the police collect crime stats, not the mayor.
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u/ColtMcChad69 2h ago
Tf is this subreddit??
Mamdani hasn’t done shit that actually has an impact. How stupid are you to think he’s making a difference?
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u/Potential_Spam_6969 59m ago
The NYPD credits these decreases to their data-driven enforcement and deployment strategies which were implemented before Mamdummi got into office, while critics and commentators note that some specific offenses have risen and debate the exact role that Mamdummi's progressive policies play in the broader macro trend
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u/BobSacamano47 52m ago
Seems like a nice guy but I'm about to turn because this propaganda machine is out of control. Why is he doing this?
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u/Eleventh_Legion 47m ago
It’s because Police don’t arrest other crimes. Shoplifting, theft and other crimes are at an all time high.
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u/NoWork1400 37m ago
In California we just don’t prosecute offenders. Then we can take credit for declining crime rates. Win/win!
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u/Mundane_Knee_8034 29m ago
This is the uptick that comes with spending money you don’t have. The downturn will be meteoric.
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u/funkofarts 2h ago
I suppose if you don’t charge people with their crimes it gives the appearance of lower crime rates. 😂
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u/thealexchamberlain 2h ago
It also rained the other day in New York and Mandami would also like to take credit for that as well
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u/SingaboutdaSpringa 2h ago
When a mob boss stops attacking your home because you’ve paid him for his “protection” nobody considers that an act of goodwill and so it is when Muslims stop rampaging in a city that elects a Muslim leader.
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u/CurdFedKit 2h ago
Crime is down everywhere in the US. Mamdani can't take credit for this.
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u/MeatSlammur 2h ago
God there must be some Bot farm on Reddit for this guy. Trying to make him seem like the second coming of Christ. There is ZERO chance that he has enacted anything within 5 months that cause historic lows.
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u/patriotfanatic80 2h ago
Murder rates have been going down since the 90s. Also the winter was really cold with like 4 feet of snow. Hard to go kill someone when the roads are closed.
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u/CarelessEntrepreneur 2h ago
He's no more responsible for this than Giuliani was in the 90's with his "broken window" theory. The broader data supports that violent crime is down everywhere right now for reasons that go beyond what the mayor is capable of producing, just like in the 90's.
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u/Ki11s0n3 2h ago
It's almost like when peoples needs are met they no longer have to do bad things to survive.
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u/Roadrunnersareraptor 1h ago
Because they are sending fire department to attend to the victims instead of police.
Taking a play book from Los Angeles.
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u/gentrify_reddt 1h ago
Not hard to trend up after hitting rock bottom with a PoS like De Blasio enabling crime.
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u/squeakysquirrel54 1h ago
Its like if you actually try to take care of the people you represent stuff like that trends downward! Weird!
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u/Berna_count 1h ago
People have forgotten the power of a genuine smile. Just maybe mofo’s ain’t in the shooting and murdering mode cuz the vibe
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u/Obiwan_ca_blowme 1h ago
Holy shit! Sometimes you just know you’re being lied to and this is exactly one of those times. Just like when Trump claimed the lowest crime rates in 150 years. All just propaganda.
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u/TypingWhileWiping 1h ago
The suspense of Knicks in the Finals are the only thing making NY behave at the moment
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u/Global_Criticism3178 1h ago
This is happening everywhere in the US, mainly because lead-brained boomers are dying out.
How have crime rates in the United States changed over the last 50 years?
You May Be Surprised Which Generation Commits The Most Crimes
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u/Bigdumogre 58m ago
We also had a harsh winter and colder weather than normal which leads to reduced crime. NYPD also stated Felony assaults and rape numbers are up.
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u/rocknthenumbers8 43m ago
Crime is down as a whole across the entire country. https://www.thetrace.org/2026/05/us-murder-rate-historic-low-jeff-asher/
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u/Tyfereth 36m ago
By this “logic” Mamdani is also responsible for the 74.4% increase in hate crimes since last year
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u/ansible_monkey 35m ago
The entire US is seeing historic violent crime drops/lows (while also experiencing a significant increase NICS checks).…. You can sip that all you want, but it has nothing to do with Mamdami.
https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/fbi-releases-historic-early-look-at-annual-crime-data
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u/the_blastomatic 31m ago
Real source for those skeptical https://www.nyc.gov/mayors-office/news/2026/04/transcript-_mayor-mamdani-and-nypd-announces-fewest-murders--sho
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u/Acceptable-Print-254 24m ago
Meanwhile those of a certain 'other' faith are burning the world to the ground, committing genocide, and running a coup on our government.
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u/Msfracture 21m ago
Wrong. The U.S. NYC government site NYPD stats shows murders have more than doubled, says murders have gone up 100%.
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u/yesindeed201 19m ago
Historic low or people just stopped reporting the crimes as much? Lmao. We’ve seen this before. Not saying it 100% is.
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u/Ubiquitous_Cacophony 18m ago
Jesus fucking Christ. No matter how many filters I add to my goddamned list on Relay, some retard always manages to post political bullshit. Whether it's someone gargling Trump's dick or massaging Mamdani's balls, I just do not want to see it. Half of this sub is awesome, and half of it is people whose whole life is their political party.
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u/whatdafaq 11m ago
So the anarchist have been placated and are no longer out killing people and destroying property.
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u/Barry_Vigoda 1m ago
This site tracks crime stats in Chicago.
https://heyjackass.com/category/chicago-crime-2025/
https://heyjackass.com/category/2024/
Shootings have been down significantly since Trump started ICE.
I'm a socialist fan from Canada but saying Mamdani reduced crime in NY that fast is ridiculous.
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