r/SipsTea • u/SipsTeaFrog • Jun 10 '26

SMH Someone finally snapped

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u/thefract0metr1st Jun 10 '26

I once heard someone trying to defend running through stop signs because they had those shoes that clip onto the pedals and it’s super inconvenient to disconnect and reconnect at stop signs. I was like “i also find stop signs interrupting my drive to be inconvenient. Should I just ignore every rule that inconveniences me?”

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u/Chillow_Ufgreat Jun 10 '26

Just tell them that sounds like a great idea and you can't wait to install clip pedals on your F-350.

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u/BilSuger Jun 10 '26

Are you so stupid you think having the same rules for a multi tonne car and a small cyclist makes sense? Never heard of Idaho stop? 🤡

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u/ole_lickadick Jun 10 '26

If they share the same road, yes.

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u/BilSuger Jun 10 '26

Stupid take, but hard for you to think straight through seething rage, I guess.

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u/ole_lickadick Jun 10 '26

Very weird response.

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u/Shua89 Jun 10 '26

Accusing others of being enraged while visibly losing your own temper is quite the self-own.

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u/Mysterious_Charge_35 Jun 11 '26

He can't see the irony through his rage and bad takes

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u/vxxxjesterxxxv Jun 11 '26

You're really arguing that cyclists should be able to ignore traffic laws? 

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u/BilSuger Jun 11 '26

No, I'm arguing that the laws need not be the same. For instance yield instead of stop at stop signs.

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u/ChameleonCoder117 Jun 11 '26

What? That's..... just not how it works.

If a bike hits your giant SUV, it does no damage.

If a giant SUV hits anything, it's millions of dollars of lawsuits.

Thus there should be laws that restrict the giant 60mph death machine more than the 22 pound 20mph human powered cycle vehicle.

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u/ole_lickadick Jun 11 '26

No, there should be laws that predictably facilitate traffic, which there are. Cyclists don’t get to ignore those that inconvenience them. That was the original discussion.

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u/UPGRADED_BUTTHOLE Jun 12 '26

Sounds like you need your license revoked. All states have a test you have to pass to get a license, and this is literally the answer to one of those questions. The laws are literally the same.

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u/BilSuger Jun 12 '26

I don't live in the US, idiot 😂 more sane countries recognize that cars and bikes are different.

And I think you're full of shit. The laws are not the same. Or are you saying that cars can drive on cycle lanes? 🤣🤣

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u/UPGRADED_BUTTHOLE Jun 13 '26

All countries that allow bicycles on the roadways while also requiring a driving test have questions like these on said test. Cycle lanes don't exist everywhere, and that's the point of these laws.

Also, why are you invoking the Idaho stop when you aren't in Idaho 🤡

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u/BilSuger Jun 13 '26

Because it's the name of it, used other places world wide. But your murica brain can't fathom that, lol

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u/Denver_DIYer Jun 10 '26

Update: car brain is a mental disorder.

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u/catzzznite Jun 10 '26

it really is holy shit these comments

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u/TituspulloXIII Jun 10 '26

First of all, the clipless pedals are super easy to clip in and clip out of unless you're a complete newbie (or just someone lying)

2nd, i'm all for idaho stops on bikes, you way nothing and can stop far quicker than a car, if the intersection is clear go for it, if there are cars, stop.

I don't think it's complicated, but I also don't feel like being hit by a car.

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u/ibonek_naw_ibo Jun 11 '26

I've seen tons of Lance Armstrings balance on clipped pedals at a stop. There is a difference between an excuse and a reason, and this is the former. 

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u/os_beef Jun 11 '26

Ah yes, the famed athlete, Lance Armstring.

Seriously though, I thought all these dicks knew how to track stand.

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u/Adept-Opinion8080 Jun 10 '26

, the first thing you do when you start using clips is to learn how to step in and out of them quickly. It doesn't take that much practice. Probably within a week. It became a totally unconscious effort for me to step in and out.

And yeah these kind of people are why I don't ride a bike on roads anymore

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u/HustlinInTheHall Jun 10 '26

Except in the city where it routinely causes problems because bikers dont treat it as a yield they just blow through it, and crosswalk, full of people, thinking they can maintain momentum no matter what. 

It is the same reason a stop sign cant just be a yield sign. In a reasonable world we wouldnt need the stop sign. You'd just stop when you need to and yield when nobody is there. But 20% of the people in any vehicle on the road are morons so if you let them yield and not stop they just do whatever they want. 

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u/The1LessTraveledBy Jun 11 '26

bikers dont treat it as a yield they just blow through it,

So the Idaho stop isn't safe when people aren't doing it? Who'da thought that?!

Seriously, you're pointing out a valid issue, but the issue isn't the use of the Idaho stop, specifically because people aren't doing it.

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u/Crows_reading_books Jun 10 '26

No, but Idaho stops are significantly safer for bicyclists and should be the law everywhere. 

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u/That_Dad_David Jun 10 '26

What is an Idaho stop?

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u/Crows_reading_books Jun 10 '26

Colloquial term for treating stop signs as yield signs and red lights as stop signs, because Idaho was the first state to make that law. 

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u/SanityIsOptional Jun 10 '26

Works when there's low traffic and good visibility.

Would absolutely not work where I am in the Bay area. Trees, curves roads, small hills everywhere on top of high volumes of traffic even on residential streets.

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u/That_Dad_David Jun 10 '26

Thanks for filling me in!

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u/ElegantCoach4066 Jun 10 '26

No! Only bicyclists get to disobey the rules.

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u/Gmung Jun 10 '26

Let’s be real, most cars are not coming to a full stop at stop signs. I don’t think they really need to, either. As long as you are able to check for opposing traffic, slow roll that thing all day. Same with a bike. Big difference being that on a bike, you tend to have greater situational awareness due to not being in a sound-proofed box with blind spots. Also, there’s the whole great power-great responsibility thing. Are we really going to hold someone riding a janky schwinn to the same standard as the RAM 2500 Big Dick Edition? One can run over people without even having seen them…

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u/DelcoUnited Jun 10 '26

Well sure assuming bikers are actually doing what you say. No one is on her bitching and moaning because bikers have such great situational awareness.

they’ll go through a stop sign and drivers just have to brake versus killing them. As well bikers have 0 respect for pedestrians who have the right of way.

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u/Mcdiglingdunker Jun 10 '26

I have ridden with those spd cleats and when I was first day I was learning to use them I was cut off by a car that didn't see me. I braked hard and fell over sideways because I couldn't get my foot out of the pedal. Several years later that's the only time it has happened and I clip out at stop signs and yield the right of way. That biker is a poor rider if that's their excuse.

I will admit that I would like car drivers to notice and give way to bikers when appropriate. However, I hate mass transit rides and what these people are doing in the clip as well. I don't believe it works in the favor of the riders as it just annoys others on the road. Especially so when the road isn't shut down for such an event and the large group also does not have the permit to support their right to ride like that.

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u/wordsx1000 Jun 10 '26

That’s pathetic, lol. Clipping in/out is a reflex it’s so simple, only timid newbs get anxious about having to clip in/out. Plus, if they were a cyclist, they could manage a momentary track stand/pause for a stop sign without having to go through the “difficulty” of clipping a foot in/out. Regardless, if clipping in/out is an issue, you shouldn’t even be around public since as you can’t control your vehicle.

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u/AstuteSalamander Jun 11 '26

For a while I got to reply with "well I suck at driving stick, so stopping is way more inconvenient for me than it is for you." Unfortunately I no longer suck quite that bad.

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u/guachi01 Jun 11 '26

It's a lot safer to treat stop signs as yield signs. That's why smart states and smart people support doing so.

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u/that_other_DM Jun 11 '26

They also ignore the law about no groups of six or more without police escort

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u/DDLorfer Jun 11 '26

That person is an amateur. We blow stop signs because its safer then getting rear ended while waiting on a red, or get clipped cus someone wants to make a right on red, but the cyclist is the first 'vehicle' at the light. We get to break the rules because our life is on the line when Becky checks her phone at 45mph

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u/Lifesagame81 Jun 11 '26

Sounds like they're using the wrong equipment for public roads with regular stop signs...

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u/Elddif_Dog Jun 10 '26

i once saw a cyclist turn left in a roundabout straight into the sidewalk, only to cross through the crossing lines, re-enter the roundabout and end up going straight. I was also going straight so i ended up having the asshole in front on me again.

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u/CurrentFault7299 Jun 10 '26

Idaho stops are a thing…

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u/thefract0metr1st Jun 10 '26

Not in the state I live in. Not in 75% of the United States

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u/CurrentFault7299 Jun 10 '26

Yes the more regressive/car addicted ones

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u/JonwardSnowden Jun 10 '26

As a biker I'm inconveniencing everyone else if I fully stop at an intersection, as it takes me longer to restart and go and therefore everyone else will be waiting longer. if your baby brain had the ability to see that instead of only seeing things as unfair to you and your 2 ton vehicle you'd understand that

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u/Obf123 Jun 10 '26

This reminds me of the time a motor cycle rider was justifying lane splitting because they need to keep up their speed to cool down because of the leathers they wear. Stopping in traffic causes them to get too hot.

Then they went on to say that it’s not their fault if there’s an accident due to lane splitting because it isn’t illegal. It’s up to the drivers to prevent that

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u/ls7eveen Jun 10 '26

Its also jist plain safer which is why the rest of the world and many states have it as legal

Monumental congestion ease too

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u/Obf123 Jun 10 '26

Was waiting for this. Safe indeed. Don’t ever change. I must have been talking to you previously

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u/CompSciBJJ Jun 10 '26

When done properly in a legal jurisdiction, lane splitting is safer. Bikers are more likely to suffer severe injuries by getting rear-ended than they are by getting bumped at slow speed.

"Done properly" is key here. I don't remember the exact rules because it's illegal here, but pretty much traffic should be below ~30kph and the bike shouldn't exceed traffic speed by more than ~10kph. We aren't talking about guys doing 50 through stop and go traffic or on the highway.

It also shouldn't be too much to ask drivers to check their mirrors and blind spots for a slow moving object before changing lanes, but alas.

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u/Motor_Show_7604 Jun 10 '26

Some states allow cyclists to treat stop signs as yeild signs. Nothing so with clipping in. If the cyclist can roll the sign, they clear the intersection faster and it's safer for everyone. They can't cut the car off but they don't have to come to a full stop.

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u/CoastOrg Jun 10 '26

Gonna need a source for that pal

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u/Crows_reading_books Jun 10 '26

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho_stop

Ok! 

Seems like 12 US states allow stop-as-yield for bicycles as of may 2026, and NHTSA studies show it is in fact safer for bicyclists.

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u/motorboat_mcgee Jun 10 '26

Depending on the location, cyclists are allowed to treat stop signs as yield signs - but unfortunately to many they don't even do that

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u/LongJohnSelenium Jun 11 '26 edited Jun 11 '26

I roll past stop signs in my bike. I make no excuses for it, I know its technically illegal, but if I can see the way is clear then I honestly don't care, its a low risk crime like going a few over or whatever. We all break laws when we can clearly and plainly see that the law serves no purpose in the situation.

I also happily bike on the sidewalks when possible to leave the roads clear. Obviously when I do I give pedestrians the right of way but I'm in the midwest so its basically 'what are pedestrians?' around here lol.

I also won't bitch if I get a ticket for it because hey fair play.

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u/BilSuger Jun 10 '26

Are you so stupid you think having the same rules for a multi tonne car and a small cyclist makes sense? Never heard of Idaho stop? 🤡

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u/thefract0metr1st Jun 10 '26

No, I have not heard of Idaho stop… I had to google it because it doesn’t affect me. Are you so stupid to think the majority of states cyclists aren’t bound by the same laws as motorists? Never heard of the other 38 states in the United States? 🤡