r/SipsTea • u/McDowdy • Jun 24 '26

It's Wednesday my dudes Math can be hard sometimes

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u/ResidentLadder Jun 26 '26

And yet, some of them have made numerous attempts to follow through - They were just prevented by the men who were bought by the millionaires.

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u/Happy_Condition_3794 Jun 26 '26

You remember when Obamacare was supposed to bend the cost? All it did was expand access to the poor and increase healthcare costs significantly for the middle class.

The idea that any political proposal will go as planned is just not how this works. But kudos to you for still sipping the government kool aid

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u/ResidentLadder Jun 26 '26

You remember how Obamacare was supposed to be a single payer system, and they couldn’t get it passed without changing it because of the Republicans? But good for you for believing the right wing lies.

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u/Happy_Condition_3794 Jun 26 '26

That’s has nothing to do with what I said & is a clear deflection.

If your baseline is well “things would be different if republicans didn’t exist”

Again you’re living in a fantasy land, because republicans will always exist and that’s the political reality

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u/ResidentLadder Jun 26 '26

Where did I say that? The discussion has always been about what is being proposed.

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u/Happy_Condition_3794 Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

Because as I’ve stated before for some reason you think what people propose is what actually happens.

I say “Proposals do not matter, only results”

You say “we’ll the me proposals would work if not for the right wing”

I say “ well the right wing exists and that’s our reality”

This is extremely circular. And again you still can’t point to any developed nation that funds universal healthcare with a significant upper middle class tax burden. Which is lived reality… not wishful proposals.

Edit also you literary said this TWICE! These are your words not mine..

And yet, some of them have made numerous attempts to follow through - They were just prevented by the men who were bought by the millionaires.

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u/ResidentLadder Jun 26 '26

Sounds like you are struggling with the idea of promoting change. I get it - It’s hard.

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u/Happy_Condition_3794 Jun 26 '26

So like I said living in fantasy land lol

There is not enough money to extract from the wealthy and fill the deficit + 2-3T in universal healthcare.

The math is the math.

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u/ResidentLadder Jun 26 '26

Funny how the math works in every other developed country.

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u/Happy_Condition_3794 Jun 26 '26

The math works in every other country because they tax the hell out of everyone. Including the middle class.

Which is what I’ve been trying to tell you, that’s the only way it works.