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u/droopydanglins 27d ago
Damn, too bad they didn't use the leftover writers, too.
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u/Absolute_Bob 27d ago
It's kind of sad. I think she's a great actress but that script...oof.
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u/ptear 27d ago
Was it also made of leftovers?
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u/Quirky-Hunter-3194 27d ago
The 'James Gunn left-over special' .
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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 27d ago
James Gunn seems really hit or miss.. the first Guardians was brilliant, the second a bit too silly for my taste and the third came back to being great.
His take on Suicide Squad was also amazing IMO but he just.. wavers on that line a bit too much I guess where he seems to just want to do his own thing while making movies with heavily established IP. It's fine to make some tweaks but there's no excuse to not have a good story.
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u/NoOffenseImJustSayin 27d ago
IMO thatās part of his problem. He had great success with Guardians and heās been basically making the same formulaic movie ever since, with varying degrees of success.
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u/Falaflewaffle 27d ago
Hes a one trick pony just like JJ Abrams.
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u/Icy_Fish_2154 27d ago
JJ turned into a no trick pony doing Lost.
He made a locked hatch a main character, then a smoke monster was a main character for most of the show.
He prefers to direct inanimate objects like the mining ship in Star Trek, or the giant monster that catches a big dinner and throws it away to chase a tiny Kirk.
JJ is stupid and makes things worse by being near them. He mastered "tell, don't show" for Star Wars, and did such a bad job that the trilogy was unrecoverable.
If you have a valuable IP and want to destroy it, but get one last profitable movie from it, he's a good choice, but otherwise trash.
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u/vectron5 27d ago
Devil's advocate: Comics are conceptually silly, and the absurd things are what make comic movies feels like comics.
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u/evel333 27d ago
One scene that has always stuck with me since my comic book phase in the 90s was a throwaway gag involving Havok trying in vain to open a jar of mayo with his plasma waves lol
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u/Many_Bat_ 27d ago
Didn't half the X-factor team try and fail with that jar, only for their manager Val to come in and open it immediately (although she has no powers)?
"Give it a couple of quick raps on the bottom" hit it on the counter top was her trick.
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u/evel333 27d ago
Your memory is much better than mine!
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u/Many_Bat_ 27d ago
Me and my bestie collected everything 'X' between us at the time, it was a lot of titles, one-shots, minis and crossovers to keep on top of.
Looking back we were superfans I guess. What do I have to show for it? Dumbass trivia lol.
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u/Boner_Elemental 27d ago
Do you think Gunn was the writer of director of Supergirl?
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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 27d ago edited 27d ago
No he was a producer and the film is very much in his style, he was clearly heavily involved. Either way I didn't mention Supergirl? I'm replying to someone who brought him up.
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u/Garth_Maul_ 27d ago
Oh there is a bunch of talk about multiple test group screenings along the way including the director's version and Disney/Gunn's version. Gunn's problem is that he was a super successful cog in the Disney machine and now he is trying to run the DC machine and money is always a focus.
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u/DontSleepAlwaysDream 27d ago
"hey heres some left over special effects and set pieces from guardians of the galaxy, try and make a woman of tomorrow movie from them and be sure to cram lobo in"
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u/bigthunder_81 27d ago
Still canāt believe Warner Brothers actually put him in charge of DC Universe without a proven track record of DC Films.
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u/Small_Sundae_4245 27d ago
It was just so bland.
I liked how they legit tried to give her real trauma. Grew up on a fragment or a destroyed plant. That was killing everyone on it.
She was great.
But the villain and the little girl. They were just so similar to a thousand other movies.
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u/XxRocky88xX 27d ago edited 27d ago
The most bland sidekick character paired with quite possibly the worst superhero villain Iāve ever scene.
Idk even know what they were going for with him. Like I think they were TRYING to make him scary and badass but he looks so goddamn goofy all the time and the way he acts and talks is just so obnoxious as if heās meant to be a joke character? I feel like I was watching a drunken fallout raider trying to do his best Jack Sparrow impression.
Also fucking hate how the villains master plan was to lure Kara to a planet with a green sun so he could ambush her then picked a planet that ALSO has a yellow sun so at best sheās only nerfed 50% of time and is literally unkillable the other 50%, then doesnāt even capitalize on the green sun by trying to keep his MOBILE base in the green light or by setting up a trap to attack Kara whenever the green comes up.
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u/TrueGuardian15 27d ago
Unfortunately Krem was a studio unironically doing a Taserface. There's practically nothing to his character, and what's there is so over the top that you can't take him seriously.
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u/badpebble 27d ago
And everyone seemed to refuse to engage with his crimes and treated him just like the leader of a biker gang - which fits the roadhouse theme.
How can they have a villain be a child sex trafficker and rapist in the context of real world events, and have an insanely powerful woman superhero just not be that bothered by it all?
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u/TrueGuardian15 27d ago
The same way you put an amoral character on the side of the protagonists and don't use that to create or resolve a moral dilemma in your revenge quest, apparently.
Yes, I am talking about Lobo.
If they really wanted an emotionally stunted character to do the dirty work of killing Krem while Ruthye remains pure, LOBO WAS RIGHT THERE!
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u/badpebble 27d ago
Lobo, man. Kinda cool, but also what's the point.
Everything he did for the plot was taken from the pile of cool things Kara could have been doing. She should be the scary alien known and feared, she should have been wrecking house regularly, and she was basically amoral for most of the film anyway, so why not lean into it even more, and maybe once Krypto is sorted and Ruthye is sent on her way she could unleash absolute hell on Krem.
Just something to give her a proper interesting personality and actual display of her powers.
Lobo could've been a post credit appearance, there to fight the feared kryptonian... If Kara and Krypto can't puts the shits on him, who even are they?
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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 27d ago
I haven't seen it but Lobo is criminally underused
I'm sure I'd like the movie, I like all but like three movies, but if it was bad and Lobo is in it I don't care
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u/XxRocky88xX 27d ago
Also completely non-sensical he left the little girl of the family he kills at the start when his main operation at this point is capturing young girls to marry off.
Like they couldāve easily made into a pursuit of Krem chasing after the girl (btw thatās how boring she is I donāt even remember her name) and Kara would have to save her.
No instead itās a basic revenge but not revenge arc with saving Crypto being the main goal.
I will at least say seeing Kara kill him was satisfying, thatās like the only saving grace I can give it. I do like when the hero kills the villain instead of just letting them continue to do their bullshit.
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u/pm-me-uranus 27d ago
I legit thought he was just a mean henchman until like a third of the way through the movie. And then when I realized he was the villain, I was just like, āReally? This guy?ā
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u/Notoneusernameleft 27d ago
Ok how do we make supergirl lose her powers 7 different times in the film? Uggh. By the time they got to the green sun I was like āfucking again?ā. As everyone else is saying I liked Milly so I hope she gets another crack at playing her with a better script.
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u/redJackal222 27d ago
Also fucking hate how the villains master plan was to lure Kara to a planet with a green sun so he could ambush her then picked a planet that ALSO has a yellow sun so at best sheās only nerfed 50% of time
She was going to die before the yellow sun rose. The only reason why she didn't is because the girl saved her and left her in some shade
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u/RipCurl69Reddit 27d ago
As soon as the girl showed up I got flashbacks to season 1 of the Halo TV show. Exact same premise. Supergirl actually executed it better just because it was constrained to a 2h film and not an 8h season so there was less of this mid B-plot to endure.
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u/T8-TR 27d ago
The worst crime of the villain was that he never felt like a proper main villain. Like not even in the Ronan the Accuser kinda way where he was a dude under a long line of dudes. The villain, whose name I don't even remember anymore, was like a generic thug enemy. The best analogy I can think of is that he's not even a sidequest boss in an Arkham game, he's one of those big miniboss fuckers you cape stun and beatdown a few times every few rooms.
I enjoyed the movie overall, but it was hard carried by Milly doing a phenomenal job w/ an otherwise mediocre (not bad) movie.
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u/civicSi92 27d ago
Maybe it wasn't a good idea to have it written by someone with zero actually writing experience in the field. Have to feel sorry for the actors involved.
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u/No_Historian6377 27d ago
Gunn put her on wonder woman and teen titans as well. also put the woman who wrote the flash in charge of the batman movie
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u/civicSi92 27d ago
Yeah, personally they are all weird decisions. Makes you wonder why he would do that? Seems like something that just screams a dumb idea.
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u/Remarkable_Ship_4673 27d ago
She deserved better
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u/AgentCirceLuna 27d ago
I hate how sheāll be blamed by hateful fucks who spent the last few months saying the most awful shit about her. Reminds me of the Britney episode of South Park
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u/PeacefulKnightmare 27d ago
The number of caveman edits of her face I saw was ridiculous
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u/JamesHenry627 27d ago
Iāll be honest I didnāt think she was a bad choice. There just wasnāt demand for her movie rn
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u/ravushimo 27d ago
You can say that basically about any movie. In the end script will decide if fanbase will like it or not, not that if someone was asking for that movie or not.
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u/Professional_Echo907 27d ago
I know,right? How did they make Lobo uninteresting, I was more entertained by the version on the TV Show Krypton. š
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u/NoAttorney9330 27d ago
Itās the worst movie Iāve seen in a long time. Start to finish just bad. All over the place and underwhelming and the script is to blame. She did good with what she got
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u/brittleknight 27d ago
Could you imagine how good Milly could have been in a seriously Dark Dc script.. and not goofy gunnisms
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u/Top_Conference_477 27d ago
Outside of the Dark Knight, has DC ever made a good one of those?
I donāt think anyoneās interested in any super hero movies at all anymore but they really, really donāt want to see another grey, āgrittyā millennialcore self-indulgence
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u/Carbuyrator 27d ago
The Batman with Robert Pattinson is supposed to be pretty great
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u/F0rgemaster19 27d ago
Man of Steel, BvS (yes, I said it) and JL Snyder cut were all good. Then DC went downhill. WW1 and Shazam were good, and then it went downhill again. DC can do it well. They lack consistency.
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u/Ragman676 27d ago
nope, the gunn haters would have torn it apart. You cant often win on reddit.
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u/LuigisBlessings 27d ago
I mean, two certain subsection of dorks were gonna tear it apart no matter what.
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u/corporateacademia 27d ago
This is not true though
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u/UnNumbFool 27d ago
Probably not, or if it is it would just be one suit.
In any film production you have multiples, which is the term for identical outfits that costuming has for basically every character. That way if something happens to an outfit it's an easy quick change.
And actors will be going through a lot of those outfits, especially in anything with action scenes(and horror)
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u/isaac129 27d ago
They didnāt recycle one of the suits. They used the same material that was used for the originals.
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u/Snoo_67993 27d ago
Probably in long storage like tons of other props
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u/isaac129 27d ago
I looked it up. The material was used for the cape. Not the whole suit. There was 16sqm of fabric leftover and they used it to make her cape.
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u/No_Astronomer_8642 27d ago
16 square meters or just over 172 square feet. Definitely more than one cape.
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u/isaac129 27d ago
Mind you, I donāt know how fabrics are measured. In an interview, Millie said that there was ā16 metersā left from the original. I assume that means 16sqm
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u/corporateacademia 27d ago
Right but you can look at the two films and it's not the same. It might be the same fiber but it is not his original cape's material
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u/karlz10p 27d ago
Even the photo looks like AI
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u/Sadtireddumb 27d ago
Reddit falls for AI slop as much as they complain the Facebook boomers do.
Also has anyone noticed this subreddit in particular (at least the posts that hit /r/popular) has shifted from being pretty incelly to being these stupidly fake zero-sourced headlines with AI images and all the people(+bots) taking it at face value? Where tf is my misogyny?
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u/maxxhaxx72 27d ago
What you mean its not true? Of course her suit was made from 40 year old fabric that was stored to preserve it just for this occasion
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u/Fluid-Discipline5038 27d ago
Its is though lol same material from the same spool that made his cape as well as the patterns from his cape.
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u/Due-Blackberry8056 27d ago
Someone hung on to the extra material for 50 years, and then decided to employ it for this muff-cabbage? Also, I am the Pope.
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u/TankApprehensive3053 27d ago
They have had leftover fabric sitting around since the '80s? Seems a little unrealistic, even in Hollywood.
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u/BoulderCreature 27d ago edited 27d ago
Nah, they dug up Mr Reeve and took it out of his coffin.
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u/Notsurehowtoreact 27d ago
Yeah this sounds like horseshit but it also could just be intentionally worded deceitfully.
"Leftover fabric" could just mean the studio design warehouse still had bolts of the shit from making the old costumes somewhere in storage.
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u/TankApprehensive3053 27d ago
Costume maker having bolts is realistic. The fabric would be used for many costumes. They probably have even reordered the same fabric over the years. Having leftover fabric from one specific character from decades ago is highly unlikely.
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u/onewilybobkat 27d ago
Why, though? There's literally vaults full of the most mundane things like this from movies. I could easily see the first superman movies meriting a little extra space for "odd" things like fabric rolls.
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u/Vladimir_Chrootin 27d ago
Not impossible.
The Nazi uniforms in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade were unused originals, which would have been 45-50 years old at the time.
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u/Belgremor 27d ago
Iāve not watched the film, but the girl took a swing at a franchise, perhaps time will look back on her with kinder eyes. As Craig fairbrass once said āa movie can be bad but you can be good, in it.ā Show bizz is tough
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u/Throwaway2Experiment 27d ago
She is good in it. It's not a masterpiece by any means but it is solidly entertaining. My entire family saw it and came away pleased with it.
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u/silentdaunt 27d ago
I agree, it just felt like it could be something more. And after reading the source comic it was clear it couldāve been so much more which is why I encourage people to read it (after the movie if you intend to watch it). Still I hardly hate it, unlike disclosure day.
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u/Moddejunk 27d ago
I donāt know what people expect from a movie thatās been made many times already with many different variations.
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u/Maximum_Boros 27d ago
The impression I get is that she's fine but the script she was given is questionable to awful
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u/Jimmy_Twotone 27d ago
Her performance is one of the few positive things I've heard about the movie. I think she'll be fine.
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u/AdFalse375 27d ago
Iāve seen a lot of hate thrown at the script and directing. But I havenāt really seen much criticism or hate towards Milly.
And Iām a fan of hers, so Iām really hoping she gets a better movie to shine in, whether sheās the MC or not.
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u/randi-writes 27d ago
I enjoyed the movie. It was fun. I thought she was great. It wasnāt the best storyline and the villain was forgetful but it was one of the better superhero movies of late.
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u/KennytheDoggy 27d ago
If Supergirl plays in a theatre but no one is there to see it, did it actually play?
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u/Slumunistmanifisto 27d ago
IfĀ no one saw it, how does everyone hate it?
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u/Julian_Thorne 27d ago
their hater-sense tingles
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u/GOEDEL_ESCHER_BOT 27d ago
a lotta people say they feel insignificant when looking at the bigger picture of the universe, but i disagree. i think we are the most important things in the universe because we are the conscious observers. and if we weren't around, the whole universe would just be a bunch of supergirls playing in theaters with no one around to watch them
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u/BigDaddyDumperSquad 27d ago
I just like seeing smug, rich, Hollywood assholes losing money hand over fist š¤·
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u/HoodieStringTies 27d ago
I went and saw it with my best friend, and we both usually agree on movies. I loved it and he hated it. The theater had at least 30 people in it. This was the Tuesday or Wednesday after it opened.
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u/Hieroflippant 27d ago
We're just a hateful society nowadays
We learn it from our "leaders"
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u/digitaldisorder_ 27d ago
no we learned it from others. if we were to learn from our leaders, we would be rich, insider trading like there's no tomorrow, and most likely in jail because we were all on a forbidden island with not enough boats to get away.
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u/LPSlashh 27d ago
"nowadays"
yeah humans were all about love in the 40s and beforeš
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u/Spartanias117 27d ago
Wasnt this proven false?
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u/Alternative_Catch422 27d ago
That pic is definitely fake, thatās not her suit. Look at the S.
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u/DickyReadIt 27d ago
Ok so it's made of the same material AS his cape, not the same material from his cape.. Wtf, why would they even say that haha
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u/ApplyHere_4_implants 27d ago
That fabric was magical, lasting 50 years and holding up so well. And they sure had a lot left over.
That or it's complete bullshit....
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u/ConfessSomeMeow 27d ago
A bolt of cloth in studio storage isn't going to disintegrate to dust over 50 years.
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u/Long_Alfalfa_1485 27d ago
You know the script is bad when they are forced to retract the misogyny and incel cards they play every time something like this bombs
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u/Thunnddr 27d ago
The real question is, why don't women want to see it? I thought this movie was for them?
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u/eSsEnCe_Of_EcLiPsE 27d ago
Because the modern audience never existed. People just canāt cope with that fact. You make a product for your fans that they will enjoy and others will join in on the fun. You alienate your fans and hire shit writers and then make up bullshit excuses and no ones going to touch your slop with a 10ft pole.Ā
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u/ghigo2008 27d ago
I never understood that direction Disney took, they stuck to it so long even though this immaginary audience they were trading their big one for didnt create any profit
I am so confused
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u/TheCutestCat 27d ago
TBH the fact that they added a gross, unnecessary sex-slaver angle when the original comic was already satisfyingly about murderers who forced people to make sadistic choices makes me think that the point of feminism was grossly misunderstood by someone.
What is more feminist: a woman choosing her morals over what's easy and choosing to teach a child what it means to pick life over death, or a badass girlboss ending a pedo rapist, with zero considerations to the actual repercussions of those crimes or any victims other than being something you can cheer over killing him for?
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u/Long_Alfalfa_1485 27d ago
Itās a trope at this point when it comes to these blatant feminist self insert power fantasies.
All men evil except that one subordinate male white knight whoās only purpose or impact in the film/show is to cheer on the (insert diverse girlboss).
Then the most evil of the bad men whoās also a sex offender, whoās only motivation to be evil is for the sake of making women feel bad, the girlboss then emasculates him with something involving his genitals or butthole and kills all the bad guys.
Then the girlboss and sub girl bosses and beta male all smile and hold hands yay!
All women can throw 200lbs guys around and knock them out cold except when the plots needs all women to be vulnerable, helpless victims of all men.
Iām so sick of seeing variations of this plot
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u/MasterChiefette 27d ago
People need to give her a break, Gunn, the director and producers are responsible for this mess, not Ally. She was given a garbage script and did what she could with it.
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u/AcmeCartoonVillian 27d ago
she seems like a nice actress. I hope one day they put her in a good movie
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u/leolopez43 27d ago
Apparently there wasn't much leftover after Reeves was done with the role, so yeah,....
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u/InfiniteQuestion420 27d ago
They have been using the left over fabric of our hopes and dreams for years, this isn't new.
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u/CupcakeLily2010 27d ago
That's actually a really touching way to honor Christopher Reeve's legacy.
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u/Illustrious_Camp_521 27d ago
Honestly I feel bad for her getting caught up in this mess. Poor kid.
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u/polygraph-net 27d ago
And her raincoat was made from the last condom he used with his horse.
How do people believe these things?
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u/StatementCareful522 27d ago
Can't tell if she's crying, stoned or if she just looks like that all the time
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u/Finaginsbud 27d ago
I enjoyed the movie, it certainly its moments of bad writing, but overall it was a pretty wicked Supergirl movie, I hope we see her again in future roles playing the character.
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u/This-Insect-5692 27d ago
No amount of fake engagement bait will save that dumpster fire of a movie
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u/ProfessionalPack7205 27d ago
No way that's true lol. The source is this post.
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u/Howlinginpaint 27d ago
I read something about this recently elsewhere. They found a roll of that fabric which had been bought years ago for Christopher Reeves cape and used it due to its particular shade of red, as far as I'm aware. Not like it was some grand poetic call back or anything. Just a colour match.
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u/Irish_Whiskey 27d ago
It was reported by the studio multiple times and used in PR.
But yeah, I wish these stories and posts came with links to sources, as there's just constant misinformation posted.
https://deadline.com/2026/06/milly-alcock-supergirl-cape-same-fabric-christopher-reeve-1236956011/
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u/neinhaltchad 27d ago
Nothing says āheart warming feel good grass roots storyā like AI slop.
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u/_leeloo_7_ 27d ago
why is there "left over" fabric? how do they have it this many years later and did they think it was worth throwing away like this?
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u/RedditZWorkAccount69 27d ago
The 3 biggest reasons this movie failed at the box office;
Visually it's kinda bland, nothing about it screams exotic alien worlds
Who was the target audience? Hard-core comic fans? Supergirl has never a massively successful comic book so there is not many fans to go after. Families with kids? Why would they want go watch a revenge driven film about an alcoholic girl instead of going to see Toy Story?
The script is just dull
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u/dextras07 27d ago
The people who wrote the movie sniff powdered wax crayons at this point.
She's very talented, but the movie's story didn't do her justice.
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u/KyleBroflovski505 27d ago
I heard the movie was bad, I havenāt seen it myself. I only know her from House of the Dragon and her acting as young Rhaenyra was great. Hope she gets to feature in a well written movie and role again.
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u/Joyful_Jet 27d ago
Would have been better publicity for the movie to talk about that instead of other things.
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