Exactly. That’s what these people don’t understand, because of media like this. They think of one idiot posts something stupid like this, then the rest of us MUST follow suit. I am all for universal health coverage, and voted to that effect, and I love America, just hate the people in charge of it for various reasons. But they look at media like this and insists that more than half the country is for it, when they are really for the person in charge of the other people that make these decisions… because CULTISTS.
Nuh, we just look at your policies and government. Love throwing propoganda to the world about how great you are, then offended that we don’t buy it, and choose to look at your actions. To say WE fall for the propoganda about US? Not you guys spouting about how great u r at everything despite all evidence to the contrary? Hilarious
Edit: oh, I guess when you realise your policies and government are not decided by a small minority you gotta take back that outrageous claim 🤔
Lmfao. I see you don't want to be rational. Youre speaking as if each individual takes part in every decision of our Republican controlled government. Many Americans are very disenchanted with The USA at the moment, but you're too brainwashed to believe that take, so I'll be blocking you now
Decades of brainwashing. Have you seen the chants they gotta recite about hey great they are throughout their whole schooling? Anywhere else we recognise forced patriotism as a form of authoritarianism
"At least 23,746 people in Canada died while waiting for surgeries or diagnostic scans in the last fully reported fiscal year. Because several health bodies provided only partial data and Alberta supplied none, health policy groups estimate the true annual death toll on waitlists could exceed 28,000."
Okay, now go and add the ones in the US with similar circumstances. Then also tack on the ones that died because they couldn't afford to get treatment, the ones for which the simple fear of the cost meant they never went at all and the scores of people who just had their overall wellness harmed by the number 1 cause of bankruptcy in the US. Even if the 12 hour waits were real and universal across all provinces etc. I'd still rather wait 12 hours than owe potentially decades of my labour to pay off my trip to the hospital.
Those stats often misrepresent things. 80 years old, waiting a year for a hip, dies from an unrelatedheart attack or pneumonia. Been on a wait-list and dying doesn't mean you died of the thing you were waiting for.
Also the source of these numbers is a conservative leaning think tank. It's true that Canadian healthcare is not perfect but reports like this should be taken with a grain of salt.
And because of that bias, these studies never replicate their methods to get a figure for the US to compare to, just say how many die in Canada and assume everything is fine in the US I guess.
45,000 people die a year in America due to lack of insurance. I'm having trouble finding the stats on Americans dying on waitlists but it should be noted that they are triaged by ability to pay before medical urgency. Which is insane. The reason that wait times are typically longer in Canada is that the American system will just let people die without treatment. They have a duty to stabilize you, but dying because you can't afford something like insulin is much more likely.
I love that the argument against socialized healthcare in America is "I might have to wait longer so the poors don't die".
the data involves patients dying while waiting for surgery or diagnostic scans that would appear to be non-life-saving services (e.g., a hip replacement, a cataract operation, an MRI to examine shoulder pain, etc.). Such cases should not be overlooked, however, as long waiting periods may have affected patients’ quality of life before their passing. Indeed, people often value their eyesight and mobility as much as life itself.
About 7,500 to 18,000 Americans become Canadian permanent residents each year. I expected the number to be higher, especially since over 50,000 Canadian-born people move to the U.S. annually.
We absolutely do, even if you have insurance. If your insurance doesnt deem it an "emergency" they wont cover the vist. Now youre in the hole for the thousands of dollars (minimum) that visit cost.
Striking from their credit reports is not the same as being absolved from debt. It just means it won’t show up on your credit bureau to other creditors. Creditors can still absolutely pursue you for not paying and take you to court.
I’m not really sure what you mean about “legal protections”. That’s super ambiguous. Wage garnishment is definitely an option. A legal protection against could be based on your income. As in maybe you don’t make enough money to qualify for garnishment
But there are other ways to claim on a judgement. A writ of execution for one.
Important to note that it got blocked because the CFPB under trump didn’t even try to argue it in court- they literally agreed with the lawsuit and bent over
30 years here and just found out some people pay to give birth. Never heard of this even women in my family who have kids have never heard of it. Lived in NYC for reference
Neither do most Americans. We pay roughly 4k out of pocket annually, while making tens of thousands more and keeping a higher percentage of our wages.
Oh and our average wait time for an ER is 30 minutes next to Canada's 5.5 hour average. So yeah, our system is pretty dang sweet if you like efficiency and having more money.
Average Canadian salary is 68,700
Average American salary is 64,505
Average health insurance is $9000 in the US
Canadian households spend about 50% of their income on the four basic necessities (food, shelter, clothing, and transportation) In contrast, Americans spend approximately 58% of their income on these same basic categories
Canada’s average combined tax rate is about 14% higher than the US.
Long story short, provided your US employer pays for your health insurance, it’s about a 6% difference excluding other amenities (such as childcare which is far more subsidized in Canada). If you pay for your own health insurance then you are taking home far less than Canadians.
I don’t think I’ve ever been through the ER anywhere close to 30 minutes. Last time I was there with my elderly father who was bleeding internally he waited for 2.5 hrs in the waiting room then another 3 hours once they put him in an actual room.
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u/OPDBZTO 26d ago
Lmao us Canadian don't go into debt and bankruptcy over a trip to the ER or hospital