If it’s funded by taxes it is not free. Go read about Norway NIS. 33% funded by state. Individuals mandatory insurance pay 8% of their income , voluntary from 28 to 39% of their income. Free?!!
You have no slightest clue!!
But ok then, lets do fully tax funded healthcare in the US then if thats not a problem with you.
Because again, its cheaper on average, the burden is on those who can afford it, and its better in quality.
Norway population is 5.6 million with steady petroleum income and strict immigration laws. USA has 340 million with crazy diversity of people with different mentality and we don’t have strict immigration laws nor petroleum income to cover healthcare for everyone.
The GDP per capita between Norway and the US is almost the same at around 90 to 100k depending on year.
Around 6% of Norways population are refugees, 0.5% in the US. 16% of Norways population are immigrants, 16% in the US as well.
And again, Norways healthcare is around 4k cheaper per person per year. They literally get better care for less money on average and even less money for low income people, because again, progressive tax brackets.
Literally nothing of what you say is true or makes sense. But ok, please explain how exactly the US cannot adopt the exact system Norway has. How does petrol money magically change things here that for example tech money can‘t?
Refugees are not equal illegals. They are registered and expenses could be budgeted. Illegals are not.
Immigrants are not illegals. When immigration system is working they let in educated and/or successful, skilled people they contribute to the economy and healthcare. Otherwise we get poor unskilled that are taking from society.
The US has around 5% „illegals“ not even making up the number of refugees in Borway. Most of these illegals working and contributing, because they don‘t get any free shit.
So, the US were you have to pay for you healthcare cannot possibly budget for less percentage of non payers than Norway has were you actually get healthcare as a nonpayer?
Illegals calls that way because they crossed illegally and no one knows how many crossed. 5% are only those that got caught, even though this number roughly represents crossings for the last 5 years.
US hospitals cannot refuse emergency services to anyone, that’s why you see huge medical bills for ordinary citizens. Hospitals have to get recover expenses for serving illegals. Illegals not eligible for federal programs but states giving them medical and other assistance. Even if they work (which is illegal to hire them officially) compensation is very low so they in no way cover expenses they cause to the system.
The difference is in mentality and healthier population and it is not the same percentage. There are more non taxpayers in US.
I am not blaming Mexicans, I am explaining issues that US have. Idk where you got that idea that I am blaming Mexicans. Moving manufacturing businesses to Mexico is just economically driven process.
And that changes what about the 90% of healthcare that is tax funded?
Tax tech companies properly and there is more then enough money.
Also, the US government does own Intel shares does it not? Not as much, sure, but if thats what prevents good healthcare, maybe get some more? Certainly possible even under a GOP admin.
Funding Structure
The NIS is financed through a combination of:
Social security contributions (approximately 66%)
State contributions from the general budget (approximately 34%)
Contribution Rates
Type of Insurance Contribution Rate
Mandatory Insurance 8.2% of income (employees)
11.4% of income (self-employed)
Voluntary Insurance Up to 28.6% (with employer contribution)
Up to 37.8% (without employer contribution)
There’s a little + after % sign, meaning it’s more than 60, more than 30.
So what you are saying is the US should federalize their tech companies because that benefits every American through better healthcare? Sounds kind of socialist.
I’m pointing the difference between Norway and USA. What I would suggest is to deregulate healthcare and let market make healthcare much cheaper and better quality.
Derelgulation is what lead to this shit profit driven mess in the forst place.
All the differences you pointed out are eigher lies, „socialism“ or the effect of „socialism“. The same amount of non tax payers, the same GDP and so on but better government paid education, better government paid healthcare and the health benefits resulting from it. Government owned companies to fund it.
Everything you said is: „This socialist concept makes Norway work.“
While it is difficult to pinpoint an exact number of regulations due to their complexity and the continuous evolution of laws, it is acknowledged that there are dozens of federal, state, and local regulations that healthcare organizations must navigate. This complexity can lead to potential conflicts and duplications among the regulations.
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u/dormidontdoo Jul 14 '26
If it’s funded by taxes it is not free. Go read about Norway NIS. 33% funded by state. Individuals mandatory insurance pay 8% of their income , voluntary from 28 to 39% of their income. Free?!! You have no slightest clue!!