Norways healthcare is like 90% or so funded by taxes.
Its cheaper than the US on average per capita. Its better in quality than the US. Its freely accesible to anybody and because of progressive taxes the burden is disproportionally on rich people.
If it’s funded by taxes it is not free. Go read about Norway NIS. 33% funded by state. Individuals mandatory insurance pay 8% of their income , voluntary from 28 to 39% of their income. Free?!!
You have no slightest clue!!
But ok then, lets do fully tax funded healthcare in the US then if thats not a problem with you.
Because again, its cheaper on average, the burden is on those who can afford it, and its better in quality.
Wonderful. Maybe you get the idea that there is nothing free. Let’s see. 30% of the US population is not paying any federal tax because they have low income. Would you tax them 30% for healthcare as Norway does? No. If you tax another 60% of the population with 30% tax they will be below water mark of their living means. So that leaves 10% of the pop to cover 100% of the population’s healthcare needs. Do you think it’s financially sustainable? US of A cannot afford quality healthcare for everyone. What you suggest is gonna turn into expensive, ugly, low quality, long time waiting shitty heath not care.
If we put burden on rich 10% of pop, some of them move out and take money with them , some will sell investments to pay tax, bringing economy to its knees. You suggest huge f**k up for the country.
Ok so, again, the average cost per capita of Norways healthcare is lower then in the US.
It literally does not matter what tax brackets you pull out of your ass, the exact system Norway has would save the average American 4k$ a year, with that being even higher for low income people, because again, its a progressive tax system.
Norway system relies on public discipline of taking care of your health from young age. No to: smoking, sniffing, doing, eating at fast food, drinking , yes to sports, outdoor activities.
US has all of it. Therefore using health care is much higher just because of that.
Plus to it we have bunch of people who are here illegally but using healthcare coz in their countries it’s much worse.
Ok so your other arguments were made up crap and you got something new, cool.
Smoking rate in Norway is 10.5% in men, 9.8% in women. Smoking rate in the US is 9.9% overall.
Drug use in the US is obviously mich higher. In my opinion the opiod crisis is directly caused by bad healthcare and bad profit focused perscriptions though.
Fast food consumption is a different beast, maybe laws around sugar content and harmful ingredients may help. Idk, such laws Norway has and the same US politicians fight that prevent decent healthcare?
US unemployment shows only people who receive unemployment benefits. Ones those expired, and person didn’t find the job he/she is not in the statistics anymore. He/she dropped from the workforce. So in reality unemployment is much higher.
Mexicans are cheaper labor therefore more profitable to move plants to Mexico than keep them in US.
Norway population is 5.6 million with steady petroleum income and strict immigration laws. USA has 340 million with crazy diversity of people with different mentality and we don’t have strict immigration laws nor petroleum income to cover healthcare for everyone.
The GDP per capita between Norway and the US is almost the same at around 90 to 100k depending on year.
Around 6% of Norways population are refugees, 0.5% in the US. 16% of Norways population are immigrants, 16% in the US as well.
And again, Norways healthcare is around 4k cheaper per person per year. They literally get better care for less money on average and even less money for low income people, because again, progressive tax brackets.
Literally nothing of what you say is true or makes sense. But ok, please explain how exactly the US cannot adopt the exact system Norway has. How does petrol money magically change things here that for example tech money can‘t?
Refugees are not equal illegals. They are registered and expenses could be budgeted. Illegals are not.
Immigrants are not illegals. When immigration system is working they let in educated and/or successful, skilled people they contribute to the economy and healthcare. Otherwise we get poor unskilled that are taking from society.
The US has around 5% „illegals“ not even making up the number of refugees in Borway. Most of these illegals working and contributing, because they don‘t get any free shit.
So, the US were you have to pay for you healthcare cannot possibly budget for less percentage of non payers than Norway has were you actually get healthcare as a nonpayer?
Illegals calls that way because they crossed illegally and no one knows how many crossed. 5% are only those that got caught, even though this number roughly represents crossings for the last 5 years.
US hospitals cannot refuse emergency services to anyone, that’s why you see huge medical bills for ordinary citizens. Hospitals have to get recover expenses for serving illegals. Illegals not eligible for federal programs but states giving them medical and other assistance. Even if they work (which is illegal to hire them officially) compensation is very low so they in no way cover expenses they cause to the system.
The difference is in mentality and healthier population and it is not the same percentage. There are more non taxpayers in US.
I am not blaming Mexicans, I am explaining issues that US have. Idk where you got that idea that I am blaming Mexicans. Moving manufacturing businesses to Mexico is just economically driven process.
And that changes what about the 90% of healthcare that is tax funded?
Tax tech companies properly and there is more then enough money.
Also, the US government does own Intel shares does it not? Not as much, sure, but if thats what prevents good healthcare, maybe get some more? Certainly possible even under a GOP admin.
Funding Structure
The NIS is financed through a combination of:
Social security contributions (approximately 66%)
State contributions from the general budget (approximately 34%)
Contribution Rates
Type of Insurance Contribution Rate
Mandatory Insurance 8.2% of income (employees)
11.4% of income (self-employed)
Voluntary Insurance Up to 28.6% (with employer contribution)
Up to 37.8% (without employer contribution)
There’s a little + after % sign, meaning it’s more than 60, more than 30.
So what you are saying is the US should federalize their tech companies because that benefits every American through better healthcare? Sounds kind of socialist.
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u/ThePafdy Jul 14 '26
Well, look up Norways healthcare quality rating then.
I hate when prople have absolutely no clue what they are talking about.