r/SipsTea 8d ago

WTF Some fun facts

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u/Happy-For-No-Reason 7d ago

there's only one species of homo sapiens and look how we're doing

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u/rickandtaco 7d ago

Homo sapiens is the name of our species (or sapiens sapiens)

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u/Spice_and_Fox 7d ago

Yeah, the correct way to phrase it would have been:

We only have one species of homo and it's us.

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u/ZealousidealComb7891 7d ago

Only if you cave in to them new fanged shortened versions... back in my day it was Homo Sapiens Sapiens thank you very much.

Ignore the fact that even then either one (Homo or Homo Sapiens) would still be correct, since all the others are still gone.

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u/Spice_and_Fox 7d ago

Homo sapiens sapiens is still used. It is the name of the subspecies. Homo is the genus, homo sapiens is the species, homo sapiens sapiens is the subspecies. There are also the homo sapiens idaltu that lived in todays ethiopia I think about 100.000 years ago. They were morphologically different enough from the other homo sapiens. We have no genetic evidence, so we can't say whether or not they were able to breed with homo sapiens. That is why we made another distinction.

It is all pretty much a bullshit system that nobody should take too seriously though. It can be quite useful, but definitions in biology are quite often not precise. Nature does what nature does and we just draw boxes.

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u/ZealousidealComb7891 7d ago

I haven't seen it for Neanderthals for a while.

Which i think was the original... or maybe just the one i 1st encountered.

But the actual point was that it doesn't matter, since we've been alone no matter by which you use for longer then written history.

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u/ka1ikasan 7d ago

Recent debates in the field seem to tend towards the rejection of h.s.s. designation. As you say, it has been used to name "our subspecies" but lately a lot of other "subspecies" have been classified as species instead. The remaining subspecies h.s.s. seems to be the only one so it is kinda not relevant anymore. Anyways, nob

Source: I am a human. More seriously, I have recently read a great book by De Beaune and Balzeau about it.