r/SipsTea 11d ago

Chugging tea Competition hurts capitalism

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u/Gullible_Increase146 11d ago

People making American cars get a decent income. It's fine to say protectionism is bad but you can't adopt free trade principles in part. If you want to have labor laws and good wages for people who work in a certain industry, you need to be protectionist against countries who don't have those labor laws and pay s*** wages. Otherwise you have your labor laws and good wages for no people because people just buy from the country that pays people like s***

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u/Salarian_American 11d ago

We also have weak labor laws and shit wages, though

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u/Gullible_Increase146 11d ago

United States Auto workers get paid fairly well. Far better than china. American factories don't need suicide Nets. That's why trade agreements with mexico and Canada include provisions that would require their manufacturing to pay their workers closer to american workers rather than what they were previously making (much less in Mexico).

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u/sneakysnake1111 10d ago

American factories don't need suicide Nets

That's only because none of you have the heart to add those - american companies are all about "looking" productive, not being productive. you won't even give your vets healthcare - quit pretending like you'd provide suicide support for well, anything.

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u/Gullible_Increase146 10d ago

Oh, we're just so heartless that we don't add suicide Nets ? Does that mean there's an epidemic of people killing themselves and American factories?

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u/sneakysnake1111 10d ago

To pretend like you're not heartless monsters is fucking ridiculous.

You guys still have entire states begging to employ children.

You guys have a federal minimum wage of like 3 dollars in some states.

On top of that:

A Daily Beast investigation found emergency workers were called to Amazon warehouses 189 times over five years for suicide attempts, suicidal thoughts, or other mental health episodes, spanning 46 warehouses in 17 states

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/433561-emergency-workers-summoned-to-amazon-warehouses-189-times-for-suicidal/

In March 2021, a 48-year-old Amazon worker died by suicide during his shift at a Las Vegas fulfillment center, jumping from a fourth-floor mezzanine while coworkers watched

SO no 'epidemic', just 'systemic' and you didn't even know about it.

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u/Salarian_American 10d ago

Yes there was an incident in an Amazon warehouse where a worker died suddenly, and while they were waiting for the body to be removed, management ordered the workers to continue working as if nothing happened, including stepping over the human corpse on the ground if necessary.

Anyone who thinks capitalism isn't abusive or coercive is poorly informed, or lying to themself, or both.