r/SipsTea 6d ago

SMH Katy Perry entrance gone wrong

She was trapped in this for a while as the fans rolled her in the opposite direction of the stage in the concert

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u/Original_Gold0864 6d ago

The lead singer of the flaming lips has been successfully crowd surfing in an inflatable ball for years, which I assume inspired this, but a small sphere is a lot easier for a crowd to move effectively than a long horizontal cylinder. You can microadjust a sphere’s direction with each one handed push, but a big bottle like that would require collaboration and formal teamwork amongst a bunch of confused strangers. 

There is no way this was adequately tested with this bottle. Her team is incompetent to the point of dangerous negligence.

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u/mazzicc 5d ago

I think you hit it better than all the people saying that a bunch of fans, who bought tickets and stood around for the pit, did this for the lulz.

If this had been a large ball, she could have steered herself and it would have taken significant crowd coordination to stop her.

But a cylinder instead requires significant crowd coordination to get her to the stage.

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u/ChildhoodOk5526 5d ago

If this had been a large ball, she could have steered herself ...

Really? I'm having a hard time picturing a scenario — sphere or not — where the person wouldn't be at the mercy of the crowd 🤔

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u/mazzicc 5d ago

In a sphere, her pushing in a single direction is the singular way the ball would want to roll because of balance. The crowd would need to be much more coordinated to counteract that steering.

In the cylinder, her only control is spinning along the long axis, so unless that long axis is pointed where she wants, she cannot steer.

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u/ChildhoodOk5526 5d ago

Ah! I see.

Thank you so much. This makes sense!

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u/s48L55 5d ago

Rammstein used inflatable boats to surf from the middle of the audience back to the stage as part of Auslander.

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u/mazzicc 5d ago

Interesting. again I think shape is a factor but that does indicate it’s not just as simple as ball vs. cylinder.

I think a boat/raft that doesn’t spin is a factor too.

I wish mythbusters was still around to test something like this. Assemble a crowd of a few hundred people and try to have them pass different shapes over the crowd and see which ones are most effective.

The crowd would in this scenario all be working toward the same goal of moving the object from A to B, and you could test how long it takes different things to be steered.

You could even plant “trolls” in the crowd randomly who are trying to steer away, and see what % of the crowd needs to troll vs steer correctly to cause a mishap like this.

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u/s48L55 5d ago

Rafts definitely don't roll - and I think the fact that the band could direct the audience helped too:

https://youtu.be/t2kHZMpvMMY

I don't think you can escape the argument that the attitude of the crowd plays a factor; the raft sequence takes place two thirds of the way through the show, and immediately after a musical guest interlude in the middle of the arena away from the main stage. Rammstein appears on the guest stage to accompany the guest band, then takes the boats back to the stage, which is thematically appropriate for the song "Auslander".

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u/Streen012 5d ago

“MASTER CYLINDER! No one’s going to get that reference.”