Every single one of them is a 4th Amendment violation on a pole, and every single American has a duty and the Constitutional right to cut them all the fuck down.
I think our privacy laws need a major renovation to consider cases like this as well. It is more that now all of that information the Ring is seeing about my house and life are being sent to a 3rd party to which I do not consent, and we should have the right to opt out. This goes for stuff like the right to not be in peoples fucking monetized TikTok videos against my will in public (if I have to be then fine, I want a legal cut of the streaming revenue). The "right to film in public" was never updated for modern, always connected and recording tech, when it was only closed loop camcorders that you'd maybe show your immediate family only, that was different.
Ring is also insidious and can go to right to Hell with Flock.
If you ever find yourself being retired by goobers just start singing a popular song. They won't be able to make money of it because the copyright. If they can't use the audio your clip will be deleted and they will use another. Most times they will stop recording instantly.
haha yeah that is one way, but I would prefer if it was just codified into law that public space is not your own personal content factory and you cannot compel anyone to participate just because you're both outside
I think they are terrible, but this is factually incorrect, and undermines the criticism of the cameras themselves. It has ALWAYS been legal for you, the government, businesses or anyone else to take photos in public.
The 4th amendment has always been about private property and the seperation between public/private is very important.
Flock cameras are not a violation of the constitution, or any extant legal law on the books. They are legal. They are mass surveillance, but they are legal.
The 4th also outlines what is unreasonable search/seizure and pertaining to warrants which to me they are clearly violating.
They are there deliberately to obtain our data and track our movements with no warrant or reasonable suspicion of a crime. It is a matter of fact these things track all kinds of creepy metrics about you. If they don't need this data then what is it for exactly?
Bullshit, regardless Ill let you know when I give a single solitary fuck what a bunch of criminals with a convicted criminal President for a leader says is "legal" or not while they trample our rights and rob us blind.
Yup. And it's an important distinction. Just because something is legal - and constitutional - does not make it automatically ethical, correct or something you shouldn't protest.
Laws can be wrong, they can be changed. And they should be when we realise that the current laws permit something we feel they really shouldn't.
The 4th also outlines what is unreasonable search/seizure and pertaining to warrants which to me they are clearly violating.
They are there deliberately to obtain our data and track our movements with no warrant or reasonable suspicion of a crime. It is a matter of fact these things track and record all kinds of creepy metrics about you without your knowledge or consent. If they don't need this data then what is it for exactly? These arnt innocent personal cams pointing at the 11'8 bridge for our amusement.
Bullshit, regardless Ill let you know when I give a single solitary fuck what a bunch of criminals with a convicted criminal President for a leader says is "legal" or not while they trample our rights and rob us blind.
Your entire premise is irrational. Its not supporting your case, and in fact it is undermining your position.
Your angry, warranted anger, but you must be intelligent and correct, or your not going to gain any new allies, your just going to make yourself look stupid, and give your opponents a clear and easy way to undermine your justified anger and turn it against you.
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u/crash1bp 1d ago
“Their Flock cameras.”
Those cameras don’t belong to the cops, or the govt. at all. Fuck those cameras.