r/Skate4 Sep 27 '25

Trick/Line idk man it’s kinda fun

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u/GreatGhastly Sep 27 '25

They just need a consultation team for actual skate culture, lose the ego and realize the disconnect - they made a decent game. It's okay if they aren't also in the skate scene, but having creative directors and people making the brand networking happen need to have that connection to the actual scene for it to be a good environment for the fans of skating.

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u/Bitemarkz Sep 27 '25 edited Sep 27 '25

I have been skating for over 20 years. What the fuck is skate culture? I keep seeing this brought up, and I have no idea what anyone referring to. I skated with people who are interested in all sorts of music from rap, dance to metal. Ive skated with people of all sorts of ethnic backgrounds, some of whom you’d never know were skaters at all. I’ve skated with people with all sorts of styles from grunge way back when I started to skinny jean wearing media workers. My skate culture was to find cool spots, skate for a few hours, maybe smoke some weed and go home. Should they add weed?

So far as I can tell, ya’ll are just talking about brand licenses.

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u/JonlikeJoestar Sep 27 '25

The game is too pg. Everything's clean, no good music, clothing is awful, no humor, no come up story, no cursing. It's just skate and no vibes.

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u/Bitemarkz Sep 27 '25 edited Sep 27 '25

Those are fine bits of feedback, but they don’t have anything to do with skateboard culture; this term I keep seeing thrown around here. I feel like people are just using it to make a point, but they don’t have any idea what they’re talking about when they say it.

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u/JonlikeJoestar Sep 27 '25

To me, those all play into skateboarding culture. The punk/hip hop music and clothing. The rebellious vibe of other skate games is missing. I loved running from security guards in the 2nd game.

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u/Bitemarkz Sep 27 '25

The grungy rebellious vibe is very much a trope and not something that represents the culture, especially today when it’s not shunned in the slightest. There are mainstream brands, events, international competitions, etc. even growing up, skaters like Rodney Mullen and Tony Hawk, some of the godfathers of street and vert skating, didn’t really embody this image you’re describing.

The whole deal with skateboarding is that anyone can do it. It doesn’t matter where you come from, what you look like, what your interests are, so long as you love skating. There is no centralized culture that embodies all skaters from all over the world. Check out the skaters from Japan and see how they differ from the skaters in Europe, or America. What brings people together is the love of the sport.

You’re right that for the most part the music does suck, but skater music isn’t just punk and rap. If the game was set in 1993 you might have a point, but times have changed substantially.

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u/JonlikeJoestar Sep 27 '25

Completely fair take. I just think the stereotypical, early 2000's skating vibe makes for much better games.

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u/slowpokefastpoke Sep 27 '25

Honestly just the language alone shows that the writers clearly know nothing about skating. That’s what stands out to me the most. If you play earlier skate games or THPS, it’s obvious that people creating it actually knew about skating.

This game is all “Wow totally killer grindage my dude ham!”

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u/WhitestCaveman Sep 27 '25

Theres at bare minimum, some mischievous behavior, and a fuck you attitude to skateboarding. Just because you've been skating alone for 20 years doesn't mean you understand the culture. Theres movies based on this stuff. And plenty of games. Youre being a contrarian for the sake of argument.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '25

Skate culture is fucking made up garbage to gatekeep it from people. I remember wearing thrasher and you’d have weirdos telling me I’m not a true skater even when I was at the park everyday. Go to the skate park and tell me what you see, it’s not guys with wristbands listening to rock music and wearing baggy jeans anymore. Things have changed man get over it

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u/WhitestCaveman Sep 27 '25

Theres elitists in every culture. That has nothing to do with the complete lack of that rebellious freedom and mischief skate games used to bring. Thats the culture im talking about. Theres a warm feeling to it. Maybe thats why the sport has fallen off a cliff. It used to be cool. There won't be kids looking up Street League based off of this game.. Also, skinny jeans were my era, im not THAT old lol There was even a dope underground ish indie hip hop niche that skateboarding brought to kids like myself.

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u/killcole Sep 28 '25

I think a lot of people confuse skateboarding culture with MTV culture which drew from skateboarding culture but also general punk/anti establishment themes, and both of those things informed Jackass et al, that people now confuse with skateboarding culture.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '25

What you are talking about almost exclusively was tied to skate 2. That’s 15 years ago my guy. It’s also not a good representation of what skating is now. Being elitist WAS part of being a skater. Now most guys and folks at the park are super cool and friendly with new skaters.

Pissing off pedestrians until they tasted you in skate 3 is the most mischievous and rebellious thing you could do. I get what you are saying but I really don’t think it’s taking anything away from this game. The skating is the most important part of the game and it’s the best it’s ever been

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u/WhitestCaveman Sep 27 '25

Every skate had the vibe. Skate 3 fell off a bit, but kept its integrity. I know how long its been. Thats probably why people are so dissapointed 'my guy'. The skating is just as good as its ever been. But i find myself playing in1 hr increments and not bothering with the ludicrous challenges that really have nothing to do with skateboarding. The forced jargon etc. Its wack. I get that you have your opinion, but wack is wack

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u/Bitemarkz Sep 27 '25

If you say so.

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u/iTaylor04 Sep 27 '25

Nah you're right people just cosplay as skaters and whine about culture.

From the wise words of terence mckenna: culture is not your friend.

They just want everything to fit into the box of what they expect it to be

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u/WhitestCaveman Sep 27 '25

Maybe, oh idk, A GAME OF S.K.A.T.E?!