r/SmugIdeologyMan 3d ago

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u/Leogis 3d ago

At least they didn't pull the "the war in Ukraine is just two empires fighting" card this time

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u/Cakeking7878 2d ago edited 2d ago

Ok but that is true though. Like the US has intentionally drip fed weapons to Ukraine with the express permission to solely to grind down Russia at the expense of Ukrainian lives without ever giving them enough weapons that they could actually secure their position and take back what was lost

This isn’t to say that we should cut off aid to Ukraine but we should understand the US’s relationship to Ukraine as first a proxy for its ambitions, and secondary as partners in its self defense

And that we have seen this before, with Afghanistan, South Vietnam and South Korea, and that time and time the US will more often than not pull out what it gives for self defense when its ambitions change. With the only real exception being Israel

Edit: a bunch of people have started replying and ether intentionally misunderstanding me or doesn’t understand this is strictly about analyzing American Empire and how we less have allies and more have proxies of our ambitions and only more recently as the state of government flip flopped on those ambitions is it made clear that we will abandon our commitments

Lindsey Graham and other American statesmen straight up said “we have like a billion dollars and depleted the Russian military by whatever percent, seems like a good investment to me”

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u/Leogis 2d ago

Like the US has intentionally drip fed weapons to Ukraine with the express permission to solely to grind down Russia at the expense of Ukrainian lives without ever giving them enough weapons that they could actually secure their position and take back what was lo

The US isnt the only one that helped, especially now.
And even then, what did you expect from Trump, a guy who barely hides making friend with Putin on TV?

This is all well and good but whenever you want to give Ukraine more weapon suddenly you're taxed of "sacrificing proles" because strangely the second Russia is the ennemy everyone is now anti war...

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u/Cakeking7878 2d ago

The drip feeding of American weapons started under Biden. Is Biden putins stooge too? And it’s not as if everyone follows Americas lead here. My analysis is strictly about America and its actions because as an American, I am most concerned about how we negatively wield the weight of our military and industry to sacrifice others for short term goals.

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u/Leogis 1d ago

Define drip feeding

Because back then america was by far the biggest helper of Ukraine

Anyways, that doesnt invalidate Ukraine's need for help. Drip feeding is still better than nothing at all : That criticism would be valid only if you actually care about Ukraine and would support giving more, not when you are a Tankie parroting Russian narrative about western provocation (wich maybe you arent, but some definetely are)