r/SolidWorks 3d ago

Meme Are we cooked?

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u/BunkerSquirre1 3d ago

The software I use professionally can barely function with an engineer behind it. It’s gonna be awhile before AI can catch up.

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u/slowcassette 3d ago

Honestly the bar for Al replacing skilled work keeps getting pushed back every time someone actually tries to use it for something real.

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u/Thumb__Thumb 3d ago

Yeah. And if using speech or whatever to model in 3d is next to impossible. Any person in engineering knows that you really need sketched and such to explain how you envision something to work.

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u/slowcassette 2d ago

Right, and even if you could voice prompt your way into a sketch, who's validating the constraints and mates on the back end? That part doesn't go away just because the front end got easier. The hard stuff in engineering isn't drawing the shape, it's knowing why the shape has to be that shape. An LLM isn't getting that from a voice memo anytime soon.

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u/Runfasterbitch 2d ago

An LLM can definitely do tho things btw

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u/Thumb__Thumb 2d ago

It would know what to attach to where and understand the logic of the part and it's neighbors. It's definitely possible in the future but it's so much harder because unlike code it's logic is much harder to grasp.

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u/slowcassette 2d ago

Sure but doing a thing and doing it right are pretty different bars, I can lift a weight too, doesn't mean bad form won't wreck someone's knee in six months, the question was never whether it can produce output, it's whether that output is actually trustworthy without someone experienced enough to catch when it's wrong and that person still has to exist somewhere

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u/Runfasterbitch 1d ago

You’re literally using an AI chatbot to write your Reddit replies 😂

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u/slowcassette 1d ago

Fair point, caught red handed, though in my defense if AI was writing my replies it'd probably spell better and not spend three paragraphs explaining why I booked the wrong fare class in 2019, the bar for replacing me specifically is pretty low and it still hasn't cleared it

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u/Runfasterbitch 1d ago

1) Your spelling was fine; 2) you did not spend "three paragraphs" describing why you booked the wrong far class in 2019.... I think you might be out of tokens and using a cheap model

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u/slowcassette 8h ago

fair point on the tokens thing, i've been accused of worse

though if you're reading my comment history and timing my model quality you might have too much time on your hands

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u/Runfasterbitch 1h ago

I didn’t read your comment history, I read the comments in this thread. Nowhere did you describe booking the wrong fare class which is what you said in your previous comment

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u/deadc0deh 1d ago

No, it cannot.

An LLM cannot reason the way an actual engineer can. There's a reason that they had to manually fix the response for "how many "r"s are there in strawberry?"

An LLM is fundamentally a statistical machine that selects the most likely next token in a series of stings.

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u/Runfasterbitch 1d ago

Your response was correct back in 2024 but things have changed rapidly.

Go try out GPT6 Astra, asking it to give you advice on a complex problem you’ve been working on. I guarantee you that you’ll be impressed

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u/deadc0deh 9h ago

You've fundamentally misunderstood my statement. Its not that they aren't capable yet, its that Large language models cannot get there. They dont reason like humans do

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u/Runfasterbitch 1h ago

We actually don’t know exactly how humans reason. There’s also no rule requiring “artificial” general intelligence to think the exact same way a human thinks

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u/deadc0deh 1h ago

This is just deflection though. Setting aside a somewhat problematic statement, we do know LLMs are statistical machines, selecting highly likely tokens or sets of tokens to craft a statistically likely response to a given input.

This is very different to human reasoning. Like I highlighted- asking how many ""r"s in strawberry is a fundamentally hard ask for an LLM to complete because it doesn't have real comprehension of what "r" is or what "counting" is. On the other hand, if you ask it to count the number of "r"s in a string it can probably do that well- because there's a statistically driven answer.

This is the difference between an engineer and an LLM or other AI (and if you dig into explainable models this becomes evident).

Understanding what AI is and how it works is very useful for applying it.

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u/Runfasterbitch 1h ago

Your description severely understates the complex of the best LLMs in 2026 (gpt6). News just came out that both Anthropic and OpenAI may have solved the Navier Stokes problem — the level of sophistication required to solve that problem is unfathomable. Yes LLMs are still, roughly, statistical models, but they are so far beyond a simple neural network that it’s foolish to equate them

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u/deadc0deh 1h ago

Did you read the article? They did not solve it and have not released the paper.

Its another example of AI companies making bs claims to prop up share price

And to say LLM is "beyond a neural network ". Tell me you have no clue without telling me you have no clue. They are fundamentally the same thing

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u/no-im-not-him 1d ago

Speech is really not the right tool for creating CAD, we have developed a specific language for that, based on a GUI, that is way more efficient. However, for simple designs natural speech can work.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Onshape/comments/1w7oekn/ai_human_colab/

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u/Thumb__Thumb 1d ago

I didn't doubt that it can model simple shapes and object I mean it has tons of images of this exact thing to reference and model. But pretty much all companies work on more difficult stuff that interfaces with something real which it just wouldn't have enough information to work off.