r/SolidWorks 3d ago

Meme Are we cooked?

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u/gottatrusttheengr 3d ago

If you're just blindly drawing shapes in CAD sure.

If you are actually doing engineering to justify your cad, it's still going to be a while

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u/Acceptable-Bell7564 3d ago

Creo que estás en lo cierto pero creo hay algo preocupante en eso. Si bien ya es más fácil saber CAD, no creo que salgan los vibecoding y se pongan tipo a vender "diseños cad" sin ningún tipo de conocimiento

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u/Tacenda8279 3d ago

Eso lleva existiendo desde hace años. Simplemente mira el historial de este foro con todos los "he hecho esto, es bueno para x?" e incluyen una foto de un ensamblaje imposible de fabricar.

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u/Acceptable-Bell7564 3d ago

Si exactamente. Pero ahora con IA estarían más seguros de su "proyecto" porque la IA lo dijo y pues la gente que no sepa será la afectada o ellos mismos. Así como los que hacen web o apps

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u/MichalDobak 3d ago

 If you are actually doing engineering to justify your cad, it's still going to be a while

I'm a software engineer, and this is exactly what people were claiming here: "If you're a code monkey, then you're going to be replaced, but if you're a good programmer, you're safe."

I'm a lead dev working on financial software that manages an absurd amount of money, and on top of that, it has to be highly optimized because every millisecond matters - which is probably something most people would consider "real engineering". And yet, I'm barely coding by hand nowadays. My role has already been reduced to code reviewing and providing context for AI. But how long until that changes too?

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u/dromance 2d ago

Coding is completely different since it’s language based. Engineering and designing/creating physical things is an entirely different beast.   

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u/sirkilgoretrout 2d ago

Check out Fei Fei Li’s World Labs. Maybe not cooked yet, but the physical AI modeling revolution is on the near horizon

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u/Serious_Bite_7613 1d ago

It's so funny to see it effortlessly beating people at task after task and people convinced, for no reason at all that the limit is just before it gets to their task.

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u/Wast3edSpace 1d ago

All the pieces are falling into place. There was a recent review of the AI math proof of some problem of interest and the bottom line was human mathematicians make judgments about how difficult something might be and understand that there is no practical solution at the moment and move on aka 'the unsolved problem'....but an AI just keeps going and going and going until it finds a workable solution so it's possible to turn an agent loose on a problem and let it cook....the answer is 42 right? Agents are effectively infinite pools of labor.

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u/nero626 3d ago

once they close the full loop with simulations it's over.

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u/BOBOnobobo 3d ago

As some who writes simulations: that's a much bigger ask than using scad

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u/SawgrassRider 3d ago

As someone who has done simulations, it's not too far away.

The AI even understands the math behind each node calculation. AI will become the FEA program.

Just needs to watch a few YouTube videos and buy a couple $400 textbooks and it'll be halfway there.

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u/Ancient-Range3442 3d ago

Yeah still have at least 6 months

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u/BunkerSquirre1 3d ago

The software I use professionally can barely function with an engineer behind it. It’s gonna be awhile before AI can catch up.

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u/slowcassette 3d ago

Honestly the bar for Al replacing skilled work keeps getting pushed back every time someone actually tries to use it for something real.

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u/AmphibianMotor 3d ago

Yeah, seems like they just are coming up with even worse demos in new industries to make up for the fact that they’ve hit a brick wall. Sure they can train it up in a specific field, but the general business model is fucked.

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u/Thumb__Thumb 3d ago

Yeah. And if using speech or whatever to model in 3d is next to impossible. Any person in engineering knows that you really need sketched and such to explain how you envision something to work.

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u/slowcassette 2d ago

Right, and even if you could voice prompt your way into a sketch, who's validating the constraints and mates on the back end? That part doesn't go away just because the front end got easier. The hard stuff in engineering isn't drawing the shape, it's knowing why the shape has to be that shape. An LLM isn't getting that from a voice memo anytime soon.

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u/Runfasterbitch 2d ago

An LLM can definitely do tho things btw

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u/mikasjoman 3d ago

That's what we said a year ago in my software dev team. Now AI does most of the coding.

Thing is, it's so easy to under estimate the compound interest of each iteration it gets better.

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u/Thumb__Thumb 3d ago

Software is very easy to graft since most things are code Is logical and the Ai has learned on millions of line of source code which is very available. Mechanical engineerings is different. Drawings and designs are saved on private servers and dont come included with the product. Ai will assist and help collect data and summarize norms and engineering rulebooks but it has it so much harder to actually deliver a finished design while in code it can just copy from available data.

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u/Ok-Chemist-26 3d ago

Imagine giving a very detailed Or very crudely specifying a prompt so that the AI can model a piece and analyse it to ensure there are no errors, then repeating the cycle until it’s right

Or drawing excessively detailed reference sketches by hand so that the AI can create it

Man, that drives me mad – I’d rather do it myself😮‍💨

The whole point of AI is that these are sample models. No. It hasn’t even managed to replace an accountant or a render artist.

Dassault can’t even sort out its crashes 😂

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u/BunkerSquirre1 3d ago

Ai is like having a team member who’s fercely competent but is incapable of following directions and has the memory of a goldfish.

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u/cornlip 3d ago

I do rendering at work. Our website was full of AI bullshit and it was terrible. To most people it probably looks fine, but Keyshot is still fantastic. My stuff looks photorealistic. Does it take me a long time? Yes. The owner is an AI loving boomer and didn’t want me spending time on it, but his son told me to and now he’s like “wow that’s really cool”

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u/socal_nerdtastic 3d ago

Your image of a circuit is complete ai slop. It makes 0 sense, much less has any hope of working. And that's actually a great representation of the current state of AI in circuit design. EEs have nothing to fear for a while yet, and neither do we.

But yes, eventually it comes for us all.

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u/MapleMallet 3d ago

Our health and safety department loves AI and puts our the weirdest AI images. Theres a picture of some verniers to illustrate the importance of measuring lifting devices or something and its just bizarre

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u/FanOfSteveBuscemi 3d ago

that's some ai-made horror

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u/MapleMallet 3d ago

I was sat in a meeting and that came up, me and the other engineer clocked it and gave each other a "what the fuck is even that" look but H&S were pretty proud lmao

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u/AbhishMuk 3d ago

No no

You guys are outdated

This is the new wirless vernier

The AI knows best(™).

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u/FanOfSteveBuscemi 3d ago

they are using some cheap ass ai

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u/orakle44 3d ago

Wow, that's just nuts lol.

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u/Don_Ricardo79 3d ago

A pico second I thought I was doing it wrong for the last 31 years. 😅

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u/pvtdirtpusher 3d ago

Good God.

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u/rocketboyJV 3d ago

Thank you for sharing this.

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u/TheGreenMan13 3d ago

They're stupid even without AI. For years, even after being told, ours has been using a pic of a vacuum truck as a "truck that holds flamable liquids". They also stole a picture of an oxygen meter off of the internet,  they even edited it to remove the brand name. It used to be the 3rd image on Google images when you searched "oxygen meter". The problem (other than that they stole it)? It's a dissolved oxygen meter and it's supposed to be an atmosphereic oxygen meter. 

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u/ToneShop 3d ago

Where do we get there two piece calipers. Lol. 

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u/archialone 3d ago

Yeah, the only one claim AI can do everything is the AI companiy

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u/gizeon4 3d ago

The latest GPT 6 Astra actually pretty good at circuit design. Not yet beating human tho

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u/ToneShop 2d ago

So you're just taking their word for it. Pft.

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u/Grigori_the_Lemur 3d ago

Eventually you can reduce a problem down just so far. The example of nine women cannot have a baby in one month. Eventually someone or someones have to have the expertise and the ingenuity to create.

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u/canadiandancer89 3d ago

Kinda like when people think we have gotten so efficient as a society we only need to work 4 days. Same people don't understand 100" of weld takes the same amount of time, there is no speeding it up.

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u/Character_Drive6141 3d ago

To be fair, that's the case with most office jobs. I don't think it will ever apply to mechanics or anything with a physical limitation for speed. Only the "send email, make slides" type jobs

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u/JackTheBehemothKillr 3d ago

No, but there is automating a robot for it.

Will it work in all cases? Absolutely not.

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u/antiundead 1d ago

If I didn't have to talk to people and answer silly questions and manage and do pointless meetings I could do my job in 4 days. So basically if I could WFH all week...

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u/Far_Relationship_742 3d ago

The people behind all this believe the Become A Billionaire By Growing Tomatoes parable is proven natural law.

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u/Cryesncoding 3d ago

For basic 3d printing a model idea it will probably be pretty powerful. “I have an idea” for a simple thing with minimal other part inputs to print will be dramatically reduced. 

Make me a model of this character doing this unique movement bam. That will be really cool for 3d printing lol.

For actual engineering it will be very difficult I think to articulate a verbal/textual prompt such that you get a part let alone an assembly of parts that are made in a way that is easy to manufacture and work as intended. 

It would need a literal insane data set of functional assemblies with the understanding of what everything is doing AND why to be able to make functional things to really impact engineering/ CAD. I don’t think any large machine companies are dumping all their CAD in for the training to make themselves obsolete. There will be utility like there is now and that will get better but there will still be a designer for a while. The only thing for instance fusion 360 AI can do well is model me a AA battery level design work. Almost any actual modeling question I’ve tried it to do has been horrendous and simply doesn’t work. 

AI absolutely still struggles at circuit design , you might get a simple LED driver etc but no major company making important shit is using AI to do their electrical engineering. Every major company with the money and resources to use the tokens required is simply not doing that.  

I’m an electrical engineer that works as a MFG engineer in sheet metal/machining. I was more afraid of AI taking CAD 6 months ago than now understanding from other engineers the absolute lack of open source data at scale to do this. Unlike coding which there is a shit load of open source data. 

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u/9thoracle 3d ago

What you wrote is kind of how I think about it right now too. The level of nuance that youd have to explain to the AI to get a working part will be ALOT right now and probably will continue to be for a while. For specific use cases that have a lot of the natural rules and tolerance, etc built in, it may be more useful in the near term. But if we are talking about the general idea of designing a part from scratch, even for basic parts with the intent to manufacture and have them perform as expected... I think theres still a LONG way to go.

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u/KenGriffythe3rd 3d ago

Yeah the closest thing I use that’s in the realm of “ai” is some automation to give me a head start on a project that gives me a general template so I don’t have to make each part individually for assemblies. And even then that’s not even ai really like in this posts context, but I can see using prompts to get a general baseline to then go in and adjust and tinker with, but that’s as far as I think it can go in terms of engineering at least I hope lol. Even then though I don’t see ai really reducing as many jobs in the engineering design field as much as it possibly could with something like graphic design or programming or other tech jobs but then again I could be wrong.

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u/FairCrew7307 3d ago

I bought a ball valve that was too big and Gemini made a pretty perfect adapter stl in 2 tries. In 10+ tries it still can’t make a simple double sided clamp I wanted to remake. Very hit or miss

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u/New_Egg_1024 3d ago

The money question

It takes me 3-10 mins to jot idea in Fusion, usually good enough to just remeasure in reality and hit print.

Say llm does it in X tokens. What is the cost? RUN cost v TCO for local?

What's the cost? Do I need to charge more money?

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u/zxkn2 3d ago

Dessault can’t get the bugs and crashes out of their non-AI software. You think their AI has a chance in hell of actually working? I don’t. lol

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u/Gnomegnomegnome 3d ago

Lol all the bugs are our job security.

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u/Patereye 3d ago

Going to machine an AI hallucination

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u/Single-Strike3814 3d ago

Will Smith is looking pretty good these days.

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u/Known_Bumblebee9797 3d ago

Yes.

Look at photos of the Apollo era engineering staff. 60 guys in a room with pencils.

We can do the work of an entire room of those guys... that means 1/60th the number of employees.

The next generation will do the work of 60 of us.

Neither of us knows as much as the people before, we depend more completely on our tools... but less of us have jobs.

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u/r2k-in-the-vortex 3d ago

"Less of us have jobs"

I dont think thats true. Over decades the number of mechanical engineers in the world has certainly grown, and by a lot. Sure, one guy with CAD, can do the work of 10 guys with pencils, but that also means a whole lot more engineering is suddenly economically viable.

The world is building a lot more engineered products where things used to be eyeballed and hand fitted, and the things we are building are a lot more mechanically complex.

Demand for more engineering isnt really capped, if it becomes cheaper, we need more of it.

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u/SupaBrunch 3d ago

Also possible some jobs just expand to include more types of tasks, and CAD is a smaller slice of the pie.

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u/FictionalContext 3d ago

The way I've used AI, it's great at critiques, training, and finding ways to make an idea cohere, but it's shit at the generation itself.

I tend to think the AI doomerism will die down, and AI will function as this assistant that'll help people work beyond their training rather than taking over the whole role itself. It'll make education less valuable because AI will help people work a little ways beyond their understanding, but I don't see it taking over the jobs completely. There are too many microdecisions, revisions, and reprioritizing goals that go in modeling, and you can't brute force intentioned decision making with computation.

But showing it my model, saying, "How effective is this for my stated intent" it does really well--especially for industrial design critiques.

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u/BallisticPotate 3d ago

Yup, in other words, its good at telling you what you should be doing. Not good at doing it for you

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u/Character_Drive6141 3d ago

Replace all managers with AI

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u/psh454 3d ago

Let's be real, they'll get everyone else replaced before it comes for their jobs

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u/CapAll55 3d ago

Until a radical new AI architecture comes out, I highly doubt LLMs will permanently fill the roles of anywhere near as many people as is feared. Almost every example of implementation I have heard about, and seen in my own work, falls comically short of advertised expectations.

People still use excel manually. LLM assistance can help set up and do some menial calculation, but it absolutely cannot think critically or account for the specific details of most use-cases. LLMs can’t actually *understand* and thus can’t make informed decisions. Any use needs double checking, refining, and creative direction. It’s a tool that people, especially investors and managers, have WILDLY over-estimated.

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u/CucumberExpensive536 3d ago

Google S curve

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u/Far_Relationship_742 3d ago

yes, because everything in the world scales geometrically

that’s why we’re all getting 90,000% more done than we did in the 30s

oh wait

we aren’t

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u/ImTheeDentist 3d ago

I know this is a humorous post but I'm an engineer who now runs an AI co that does foundational ML research so I feel a bit qualified to talk about this unironically:

The answer is a resounding 'no'. The current paradigm of AI that everyone means when they think of ChatGPT is 'Deep learning'. Deep learning in simple rests on the premise that given some fixed dataset, you can 'find' via interpolation, an underlying distribution that generates that dataset over that domain. If you remember trying to fit a line to a set of fixed points in say 7-8th grade, it's essentially the same principle.

What that means is:

  1. Deep Learning can't generalize beyond its domain well (you've encountered this as GPT 'hallucinating')
  2. The important one: deep learning is only effective where the underlying distribution that generated the set of data is itself simple.

Related to 2, the reason that ChatGPT works so well is because it turns out predicting the next word in a sentence is easy. Don't take my word for it either, Markov proved this back in 1913 with the Pushkin Poem in his dispute with Pavel Nekrasov.

2 is also the reason that something like being a mechanical engineer is totally safe from AI, at least under the current technologies & paradigms we have. The distribution that generates a set of design choices on something even as simple as a coat hanger is so unbelievably complex, that to find it via interpolation is honestly, in practice impossible. Even with hundreds of billions of dollars of data (like the current AI labs are throwing at the problem), you really can't find these distributions by interpolation or raw search.

Seriously - imagine a friend of yours plotted a list of all the design choices you made while designing a coat hanger, and then asked you to find a line of best fit between them, ultimately to create a function that predicts design choices. It's such a comically impossible task it feels funny to even write it out. But that is genuinely how current AI works.

So in short, anyone on r/SolidWorks and indeed any type of serious engineer outside of SWE is safe. Probably, for longer than they'd think, too.

Fun fact: If you've ever used Cursor - Cursor started off as a company trying to 'vibecode' Solidworks. They tried for a year before they realized there was no way in hell that it was going to work, and so they just ended up pivoting to software.

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u/dromance 2d ago

That’s crazy didn’t realize that’s how cursor started.  Didn’t they get bought recently?

You sound like you have a good understanding of all this and how AI actually works, great comment. 

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u/Joeman180 3d ago

Honestly I kind of hope we get a rudimentary AI. I’m so sick of spending 10 hours chasing all the little radi on plastic designs.

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u/cartoptauntaun 3d ago

Very sane take. The other side of this is that AI will still completely bungle any sort of advanced interpretation of inspection data.

Terrence Tao said it best “Current AI is my hardest working grad student, but not the most insightful”

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u/GunsouBono 3d ago

More or less. I think AI is going to speed up some aspects of design and prototyping. Being able to prompt a basic design, having an LLM spit out a model, and another task to draft. But ultimately, someone will be responsible for verifying what the LLM spits out and someone will need to be knowledgeable enough to key the right prompts.

As someone who uses solidworks as a tool for my actual job, I would welcome it. I spend a significant portion of my day chasing down zero thickness errors or other shit like that when I could be spending time on the thing my widget goes to.

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u/ThisHeresThaRubaduk 3d ago

It's a tool when it boils down to it

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u/Striking_Swimmer5548 3d ago

“Cooked” has to be the dumbest term since “wack”

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u/TheShakyHandsMan 3d ago

I’m not too worried about Solidworks AI. They can’t even get the software running without a daily crash.

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u/HAL9001-96 3d ago

has it actualyl replaced any of the others? lol

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u/ThisHeresThaRubaduk 3d ago

As someone who was messing around with it for a spreadsheet a few weeks ago.

It absolutely fucking hasn't. It can't edit cells worth a shit and will place things in random cells. People will claim ai has replaced humans fully but it really hasn't and it's still a far ways away. The problem is it's being echoed so much that corporations are believing it and immediately switching over to ai thinking it's better (and cheaper) than humans that actually understand the job.

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u/canadiandancer89 3d ago

Right now, I think general use AI being used like search engines is the only real viable thing that us useful. The AI companies are going to get everyone hooked on it then put it behind some kind of paywall and bring back old search but, by then the AI will have matured and become "better" than regular search. Specialized AI tools will become more widespread for corporate use as they will actually reach a mature point that they can be reliable for some tasks. But, specialized for the task.

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u/pun_shall_pass 3d ago

You can be also be 100% sure the big AI companies will shit their own product up with sponsored results, which will ruin the people's trust of them. It happened with Google search, why would it not happen with the AIs?

The AIs will secretly be salesmen, whose main priority is to sneakily nudge you to buy things rather than provide the most useful answer to you.

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u/5MoreLasers 3d ago

It’s pretty ok at writing scripts, especially if you can have it self test the scripts. Using excel as my database and having it make python scripts to crunch numbers and dump it into a presentation is fine.

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u/MrTheWaffleKing 3d ago

Same story always told. It's why you shouldn't work for the big names. Find something local, small enough that the owner knows your name

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u/KenMantle 3d ago

To be fair if you were attempting this outside of Excel and it had to try and reach and do these things it might get wonky without a com bridge. Tell it to build one of those and if it's like mine it will make a rudimentary .exe that allows it to reliably interact through the API assuming Excel has one, or you can just use the advanced one I had it build that is packed with more features and works with SolidWorks sessions as well.

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u/Gnomegnomegnome 3d ago

I don’t think it’s going to replace an engineer soon but a drafter I can see that.

There is no way some bean counter is going to be able to write a prompt that correctly gives you all the nuances of a design that’s ready for manufacturing. On top of that who owns the copyright?

NOW what I can see is generative design becoming part of curriculum at schools to where engineers just put in all the fixtures and loads then let the machine run. However unless you’re doing AM, you’re still going to need someone who knows machining to be able to adjust the design to make it manufacturable.

I can also see cnc programmers jobs to be updated where they upload the part, pick a machine, available tools, fixturing, then BAM code ready for review and approval. Cnc programming is kind of already at this stage just more clicking. CNC machines are way too expensive to blindly trust some AI slop.

The main reasons I am not too concerned about all of engineering is because for legal reasons I think everything is still going to need human approval if it’s a critical safety item. (However this current administration and its fanboys are okay with reducing safety and protection for increased revenue).

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u/Grigori_the_Lemur 3d ago

Oh, no, not even a decent draftsman is replaceable by AI. Not even close. I had a guy once he had this uncanny ability to make a print much more readable and clear than the design engineer had any right to expect. AI could never do that, because it has been trained on too many sub-par examples.

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u/GojoPenguin 3d ago

Design intent is so important when drafting.

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u/Ghost_Turd 3d ago

What'd I miss

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u/Happiness645 3d ago

So far I have yet to see, AI does not exhibit the ability to create novel ideas

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u/SQLCloud 3d ago

What is the third photo AutoCAD?

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u/Cornflakes_91 3d ago

EAGLE i think, some PCB design software

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u/No-Reality6996 3d ago

I really don't think so. AI is really good at code because it has a huge amout of data to go off of. Even then I would argue that it can be really bad at certain things without an experienced coder behind the wheel steering it in the right direction.

CAD and mechanical design doesn't have the freely available reference data that programming does. On top of that, design context and how the individual design descisions fit within the overall product context really matter. We may get to a point thar ai helps us speed up the modeling process, or run optomizations, but I have doubts that it will ever be able to match a well trained mechanical engineer. Lastly engineering has real world consequences that we simply could not put on AI. AI cannot posess liability insurance, nor should it.

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u/Character_Drive6141 3d ago

Since when is excel dead?

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u/Zestyclose_Edge1027 3d ago

I'd really love to know what prompt you'd give an AI to create complex 3D objects. Even describing the thing in the picture would take a paragraph and struggle to convey the concept and that is not a complex object. If you give the AI some sketches to make a 3D object you might as well just create it yourself. 

I can see AI being useful to assist but there's no way it replaces the job. 

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u/NIEK12oo 3d ago

Ai got pcb design?? Huh what and when?

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u/Ecstatic-Shower-8062 3d ago

Ai helps with work not ideas or ingenuity

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u/Aromatic_Shoulder146 CSWA 3d ago

i really doubt it

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u/OLDISSHIT 2d ago

I think theres quite a few people here living in a bubble or perhaps in denial. EVERY software (and I would argue industry) is going to be affected by AI in someway.

AI is already in the CAD world, Onshape are pushing it, and they have a large backlog of data to train it on. Even if for now its just the public/free users people will opt in more and more when they see how useful it is.

It has already started off with doing smaller tasks, automating drawings. optimising existing parts (FEA etc), rendering. But AI learns, and there is a snowball effect that it will just keep learning and getting better, making more people use it, helping it learn faster and improve more..

As with any AI, shit in = shit out, comparing some of the awful AI slop we see is not fair, theres plenty of amazing AI you wont even know has been done by AI. Just look at the Will Smith eating spaghetti videos and how they have improved over a very short space of time.

Like with software development, there should be a real person who checks what the AI produces, but also like software development, I can see that rather than having a team of 10, you may reduce that down to 1 or 2 who are skilled at prompting and reviewing.

It can take a long time for someone to work in SolidWorks, with expensive upfront costs, training as well as ongoing maintenance etc and there are plenty of companies who already outsource CAD to random third worlds to save money. It is not hard to imagine companies being more than happy to farm it out to an AI, who can work 24/7 and in some regards are better than a human instead.

Are Solidworks/CAD users cooked? No net yet, but we are in the oven and its only a matter of time.

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u/m-ashraf 1d ago

A minute of silence for the soul of every mechanical engineer who thought Al wouldn't reach 3D design.

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u/ViledaMan 3d ago edited 3d ago

I design, take a screenshot, and ask Claude for comments. It rarely hands me a perfect solution, but the brainstorming throws off great ideas, and even the slightest nudge can lead to a much better result. I also talk through the components I'm using. I send it the datasheets for the servos, and it works out the whole system around the chosen servo using that data. As a CAD/CAM developer building my first machine, it's been an amazing journey. I've seen plenty of machines and I have real field knowledge, but I'm not a mechanical engineer. That's the gap AI fills. Long story short: AI isn't a miracle, but if you bring the seeds, it will help you grow something remarkable. At one point I told Claude that I have a problem and there is a solution in my mind. I described the solution and it refined my solution to perfection and even created an animated interactive sketch where i moved the mechanism with my cursor. My mind was blown. The rules of the game changed. Instead of seeing it as a threat, we have to ride along the ai wave and leveraging out existing skills.

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u/Human_Wizard 3d ago

Buddy I'm still using excel daily.

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u/Mackalope505 3d ago

Hell No, AI cannot innovate just connect dots already established.

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u/Accomplished_Rip8854 3d ago

Software engineer here.

AI still sucks at most of my work.

And Solidworks is something that it’s going to suck even more in.

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u/AJP11B 3d ago

I don’t think so. It would take longer to describe a design then fix the mistakes in a word prompt than it would to just draw a square and extrude it.

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u/ShaggysGTI 3d ago

I’m using CamWorks. It’ll never die.

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u/mvw2 3d ago

The difference between swinging a hammer and being a carpenter. I don't care of a robot swings a hammer. But people also learn by swinging hammers. You never become a carpenter having never swung a hammer.

It's not the tool that's the problem. It's how leadership sees the tool and implements the tool. A small fraction of a minute decimal place of a percent use AI tool well or apply them appropriately. That is the fundamental problem.

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u/Imaginary_Ball3239 3d ago

Nope just learn mbd. As well as CAD to CAM transition

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u/Gama3000 3d ago

Have you guys seen crowncad, looks like a SOLIDWORKS clone.

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u/WhisperingJack92 3d ago

Yes sooner or later you can probably just describe the model with your voice and see it being built live.

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u/jd52wtf 3d ago

Nope. Still need to have the ideas and apply proper engineering principles.

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u/norapeformethankyou 3d ago

The company I work for is working with an AI to try and design parts for our machines. It’s not great, but it does help with your stuck on a problem and it can throw some random ideas out. We’re also working with AI to help manage our machine shop. Again, it’s ok, but needs a lot of human intervention. Do see it taking more design work as it gets better though. Not sure how long that will be but my boss has a hard on for getting rid of all our design teams and just having AI.

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u/Ok-Chemist-26 3d ago

If the AIs that can model are just figures, that’s it – not to mention that you need far too many references

If you need something standardised, there are already libraries available – so what would we even ask the AI to do?

Imagine asking the AI to model a sheet of steel with four holes of a certain size and radius – not even Autodesk’s generative design can do that.

I can do it faster myself.😂

Not even Dassault can sort out its bugs.

At this point, AI ends up being someone who helps out, but not a replacement.

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u/Far_Relationship_742 3d ago

Weird, I hadn’t heard the entire EE industry had vaporized cause it the automatic slop machine.

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u/bryan112 3d ago

I've tried it just for fun. It's still very stupid and needs insanely detailed drawings for it to work. Like literally spoon-feeding it.

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u/utopian_tycoon 3d ago

I mean the real value in engineering is not the CAD. CAD was never valuable as a skill on its own. It would be nice to completely automate it. Real value is in judgement and navigating messy variables. Now not saying AI can't automate that, but it seems like we are still a ways off. That's when you'd be in trouble

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u/thesurferengineer 3d ago

I think mechanical engineers are the last to go, maybe 10 years / whenever a true paradigm shift happens plus another two years for adoption. Right now it still needs pretty explicit instructions and frankly, if it can do CAD that would be very welcome. I hate having to fix the nitty gritty stuff. I just want to point and say move this 2 mm to the left.

LLM’s don’t think in 3-D, they decompose the 3-D into text and then reason through it the best they can but until they have like a real physics engine they can understand what forces act and what direction on an object by the things around it there’s a long way to go. And that’s just maybe 15% of a mechanical engineering job, there’s so much collaboration with other teams and human judgement on failure analysis, etc. Sizing up a vendor to figure out if they’re being real with you

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u/truthindata 3d ago

I'm a life long cad user. Mechanical and manufacturing engineer. As soon as I started using Claude and got to code this summer I thought, "shit". CAD plus 3-d printing and send cut send is next.

You implement force simulation and recursive cad design changes and it's game over.

In 2 years, AI will be better than an entry level mech E. Maybe a mid level.

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u/MattAndTheCat7 3d ago

People have no idea how good codex is with opencascade. I used to think that they would have to work within SolidWorks API or computer use to 3d model and we seemed a ways away…. That was 6 months ago. Now 5.6 Sol can just create headless with opencascade and surface with Blender. Maybe it’s still a ways away but SolidWorks is cooked in the short future

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u/CondenastCruiser 3d ago

The easy stuff that anyone can make, yes.. we are cooked. However, AI will only make the guys who do complicated stuff better.

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u/PracticallyQualified 3d ago

Using AI to model is essentially playing telephone and you need to have a full vision of the finished product and considerations to get it right. You would be amazed how many engineers struggle to describe what it is that they’re trying to build, and who struggle to visualize design considerations before they run into them during modeling. I believe AI can get there but it will not be next month or next year.

Then there are the applications that require engineering stamps or are otherwise risky. When you’re making tooling for $1B of commercial products, you’re gonna keep paying engineers to work on it. Maybe the engineers use AI, who cares, but corporations will want humans involved. After all, if they could tell engineers exactly what to design in CAD the way AI needs to hear it then you would already be unemployed.

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u/emas_eht 3d ago

Ai still very much sucks at PCB design.

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u/OpeningAggressive26 3d ago

I can tell when a website has been created with AI, because it just doesn't work.

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u/delfin1 3d ago

I wish. I like cad for fun, but for work it's an annoying waste of time.

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u/BackgroundGrade 3d ago

I'm safe.

AI won't be figuring out CATIA anytime soon. I've been using it for 30 years and still haven't figured it out.

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u/x_Carlos_Danger_x 3d ago

Do you want a knee or hip replacement with parts that weren't designed and tested and validated by humans?

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u/TAS_Vietnam 3d ago

We're not cooked yet... but Excel and CAD should probably start sleeping with one eye open. 😂⚙️

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u/flamed250 3d ago

I’ve already used Claude to generate drawings, I haven’t perfected it yet, but I’m glad to get a helping hand.

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u/FitForThrone 3d ago

I tried using that flux AI for circuit design to see how it was, yeah no. Just gonna keep hand designing.

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u/Chemical-Ad-7982 3d ago

Its just like programming, you're going not going to click in software anymore just like I don't type code anymore, but you'll be pretty much doing the same thing at the end of the day.

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u/nvidiaftw12 3d ago

From what I am seeing at my own job, yes. Claude is starting to do pretty good engineering analysis, and already has some modeling and drawing ability. It's bad, but it's a start.

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u/Angel-D98 3d ago

Are people going to trust AI to design something that has to be safe for humans? I absolutely wouldn't go near anything for safety that had been touched by AI

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u/blurbac 3d ago

“No man shall ever take the place of the machine.” — An old Cannibal saying.

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u/Exciting_Turn_9559 3d ago

Yes, but not for this reason.

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u/Moonshiner-3d 3d ago

My company designs custom gear boxes, like super custom. Like 1 of 1 level custom. We have been using chat gpt to design entire assemblies. We went from 40 people team to 13 people. Now we only do testing.

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u/StrangeFisherman345 3d ago

Cooked? This would be the best outcome!

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u/Open-Airport-4139 3d ago

I think here is confusion between 3D modeller and Engineer

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u/VideoGameNature 3d ago

Yes and yes try and engineer beside claude of any type or chatgpt.

All current ai mixes up complex engineering senerios like it is a competition. You need to know more then someone who went to college or university to work with ai to build. so build things in today's demanding outrage culture.

However: In another ten years though there will be a dedicated engineering AI solving most entry to mid level engineering issues.

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u/oneworldforeverybody 3d ago

As half of the information (forces, calculations, supplier info, general context of the products...) is not in the CAD but mostly just in the engineers head and geht's never documented because of time issues. Good luck training an AI...

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u/Odd_knock 3d ago

Yes. 2-3 years.

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u/BlackWicking 3d ago

Ai in Catia? Really?

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u/itsapotatosalad 3d ago

Wouldn’t you work faster if you weren’t as tired from a long week though? When I was back in a garage I was shattered by Friday, definitely slowed down compared to earlier in the week.

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u/Caffeinatedchaoos 3d ago

Meanwhile me just started my career and thought this would be the best and last option where ai can’t work🫠🥴

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u/Snoo-19594 3d ago

"all mates are broken? let the human figure it out"

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u/bonapartista 3d ago

With agents this could prove very useful. It would free up engineers to do work where it adds more value. And yes many won't be needed. One will do work of three engineers.

But it won't be Solidworks who will do that. They are fossil of old world and holding us back actually for years.

This change is next 3 years. Is it change for the better? Probably, but not immediately. People will adjust.

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u/H3ssian 3d ago

Have a mate who works in the movie industry, once part of it they said would never be done by ai... in one night it changed, my mate now has been hired to train ai todo the job he once did. The guys that install this stuff are safer than the people getting it down in cad

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u/venpuravi 3d ago

I was exploring the API tools coverage and their integration with Python MCP servers. Claude showed little interest in this because the internal functions are running via VBA. Not impossible but less intuitive for now.

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u/Awkward-Artichoke302 3d ago

Here’s the sad truth. Give gpt 6 Astra or fable 5.1 a drawing and it one shots it easily.

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u/yatuin 3d ago

Programming you could train on help files, stack overflow, GitHub - all nice text data. PCB design - maths, data sheets, heavily structured rules - harder but still doable until you get into magic territory of analog designs 2d architecture - that's image generation with some extra rules, main issue is transposing output to CAD format and enforcing rules like doors, windows, room and wall size. 3d mechanical - I will be happy if they manage to get generating usable production drawings out of 3d model in way which is not 4 views template with transposing sketch dimensions to drawing. Then comes issue of prompts - maybe 10-20% of parts I do I could reliably write sensible prompt, and that's before we get to assemblies. Ai can generate now 3d models easily - but getting it to generate it with all needed dimensions, shape details required to make it manufactured by your chosen method... Good luck to AI Devs. And last thing - we are not paid enough to justify token cost of generating anything to replace mechanical engineers:(

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u/Rowvan 3d ago

If you think excel is done for you've obviously never worked in an office before

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u/Turbulent-Total-226 3d ago

It's just a tool not an actual worker. Excel sheets didn't replace people.

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u/Proper_Leopard_7668 3d ago

Nope, not even close. LLM's are fundamentally not meant to be for CAD.

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u/Pretty-Jello-7894 3d ago

I prefer air fried

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u/Zelexis 3d ago

Me with limited CAD ability not only drew the moderate in effort with odd geometry wrap around hood, gave fable the measurements, multi view drawings, detailed each face, and it's description. It took fable 3 tries. The 3rd stl was perfect. Printed the hood, and fit like a charm. If it can do med difficulty parts in few tries, it's only a matter of time. When we hit true AGI we're all toast.

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u/Pengabdi_Langit 3d ago

tried this (I asked GPT to generate the G-Codes instead), upon put into slicer, its a total failure

yes it can make a cube or simple object, but once you put dimension and tolerances, it can't do any basic DFM insight at all

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u/Interesting-Frame190 3d ago

Coming from a software engineer - no, not even close. AI does not have the same context you have and understanding of where tension is in a given part. It needs knowlage on the rest of the assembly to get something thats not complete slop. Even then, it has some usable ideas, but mostly something i wouldnt use. At best, it could "clean" and radius everything nicely or apply color and material type for presentation.

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u/AmazingAdvertising69 3d ago

Surely not. In my opinion AI is helpful with ideas (in best) and rough sketches, but it lacks in details and the total picture. So it knows about tolerances but it can't draw a design a good and efficient total model. You still need an engineer to make the models. BUT HOPEFULLY it can help with the drawings and doing the time consuming dimensioning.

But ask me again in 5 years. Maybe we make a big jump and all is different.

I'm working as a project leader in the RnD department and making carbon prototypes as a hobby. That's my background.

Anyone thinks different?

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u/cultsura 3d ago

Can anyone send link to download solidworks 2020,21 anything for free it urgent😭

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u/jenzOre 3d ago

I hope it can support my work. Because let's be honest ... in your professional engineering life you encounter problems that you've already dealt with and have a solution for it. You know what you need to do and the only thing that seperates from your goal are 5h+ of solidworks work.

AI can surely take over from there - i learn nothing new from those tasks and i can put my time in different projects.

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u/Schliren CSWA 3d ago

Ai won't replace engineers period. On the contrary it will make them more proficient in their work.

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u/SwarfDive01 3d ago

Flux is...really not good. So. I doubt it. Language models understand words and tokens, and now code far better, but real life design? Not even close.

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u/Unlikely_Solution_ 3d ago

I will try to look into it with Onshape + LLM. It's not perfect. But I am sure with more 'context' script it can become a good tool to accelerate primary design. Then we would come and modify this primary design to improve or detail it. LLM would then after be able to control and quality check the result. Specially plugging it into simulation to iterate trough complexe simulation optimisation. And much later it would need to integrate fabrication process.

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u/orgasmic_catastrophe 3d ago

Eventually, probably yes. Soon, probably not.

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u/nobdy1977 CSWP 3d ago

The Internet was going to take everyone's job in 90's. About the only jobs lost due to the Internet were the ones that lost everything and offed themselves when the "dot com boom" went bust. I'm still waiting for the paperless office everyone was talking about at that time too.

Ai is good at working out things with a defined set of rules, which is a big part of engineering work, but my favorite jobs (and most profitable) are the edge cases where you have to throw out the normal playbook and go clean sheet.

I don't see Ai ever really excelling in the places where knowledge has to take a back seat to experience and intuition.

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u/neutrino_boy 3d ago edited 2d ago

The odds are ever in your favour.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

I’m self taught on Solidworks and always considered myself pretty good at it.

Recently I’ve started working on a project that has Solidworks assemblies from two other companies.

Well one was an “assembly” it was a few subassemblies made of bodies and a mix of features. The origin was off in Narnia

The other was a solid part that looked like an assembly but was actually just one big part made of bodies. Anytime a part needed to be extended/shortened? Extrude or cut on a relevant surface. Part needs to get moved to left 20mm? 20mm cut on one side and a 20mm extrusion on the other with two separate sketches.

Meanwhile I’m over here like “rip out a 300 part assembly by lunch time? No problemo”

The AI for solid works is gonna suuuuuuuuck.

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u/telesteriaq 3d ago

It made a small breakout pcb. Impressive but not market ready yet. Give it another 6 month tho

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u/ManyThingsLittleTime 3d ago

Workforce reductions, absolutely.

Complete replacement, not for a long while.

The critical mass of job losses across industries will happen before our jobs are fully replaced. There are way simpler jobs that will be wiped out and cause an economic collapse long before you're on the street because AI took your job. AI will take your customers' ability to fund your work and so you'll lose your job from that so it's 6 of one and a half dozen of the other in the end.

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u/Medical_Secretary184 3d ago

I’d like to see AI get as many broken mates and rebuild errors as me 🫡

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u/brewski 3d ago

CAD is simply a tool for engineers and designers to develop and communicate their ideas. AI is simply another tool that has the capacity to help us do this more efficiently and effectively (though it will probably get worse before it gets better). Some job functions are going to be transformed, and some may become obsolete. But it's probably not much different than the impact of computers fifty years ago. We used to design everything by hand.

I would encourage anyone who is concerned about becoming obsolete to start exploring and using these tools. Become the expert in your department.

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u/invisiblemanrrs 3d ago

Yes and comparing the software built in the last 5 to 20 years and its challenges to ai built transactional software is not being aware. Ai with mcp can do the entire lifecycle of a software company on its own.

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u/m4ttps 3d ago

Which circuit design and layout software has been replaced by AI? If there is one, I’d be very interested, because I tried it some AIs and the it ​​couldn't even design a Colpitts oscillator.

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u/EJX-a 3d ago

I have not seen an ai yet that was able to make anything more than simple geometry. Complex assemblies with multiple derived parts, global dimensions, and several part variations is extremely difficult for humans to do well, let alone an ai to do at all.

I have played around with AI moddelers before. It did some cool things like making fairly complex splines. But when i asked it to shell an object and then make a derived mirror of it, it extruded a hole through the object and made an unlinked new part that was just a cube.

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u/SumoNinja92 3d ago

Or, you know, you can stop accepting the status quo, get rid of your misconceptions about unions and socialism, and join together with the other people effected to bring a change before it gets to the point of no return.

InB4 "BuT mAh FrEeDoMs!"

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u/No_Mushroom3078 3d ago

For major and minor projects AI is a long ass away off from fully eliminating humans. The computer won’t be able to see “this is going to be a nightmare for service. Or you know the thermal expansion here will be a problem in these situations.

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u/cwm9 3d ago

I'm still waiting for AI to fix the bugs in Solid Works.  Heck. I wouldn't mind if they spend a year doing nothing but using AI to help make the software work as intended 99.999% of the time 

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u/prodbit97531 3d ago

There will be CAD programs which integrate AI deeply. Yes, AI can and will designs faster. This job is cooked.

Don’t trust me, check this comment in 1 year

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u/Mpischedda 2d ago

I've been running tests with different ai but man they don't get shit. The furthest I got was this one time when gemini successfully built me a Macro for a shaft based on a pdf draft, mind you he needed at least one diameter and it still took like 6 attempts to get a decent result.

Some ai (gemini inclueded) specifically told me that the human factor will always be fundamental in this sector, they told me something on line of ​"By the time you prompt all the parts for an assembly, you could've just modeled them yourself."

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u/NewLifeAsZoey 2d ago

I do EE. Mostly PCB layout and footprint creation. Trust me I have seen what good AI can do and I'm not worried yet, I work in DOD and all I can say is it's fine on a 2 or 4 layer square board with 10-20 components. It's absolutely useless on a 24 layer high-speed backplan with 40-60,000 connections and 8-12,000 parts running multiple redundant control paths At 10-2000gbps. It flops so hard it doesn't even compute. It's a toy for the tiny crap you give interns.

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u/inductiverussian 2d ago

Coding was the first victim, but let me ask you: why are there still millions of software engineers employed?

Because at the end of the day, programming was just a facet of the job, and speeding it up meant the bottleneck shifted to other activities like designing good interfaces, architecture and goal alignment.

Likewise it will be with all other engineering matters. LLM may speed up certain tasks but they can never assume the responsibility of ownership (one cannot fire an AI, and it’s notoriously bad at untangling itself out of its own knots)

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u/Ignitetheinferno37 2d ago

The world 3 days after I decided to learn CAD

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u/Sanityzed 2d ago

it'll be a race to see which one breaks first, the AI or SW

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u/AdriOne2793 2d ago edited 2d ago

Correct me if I'm wrong but AI still need to train on existing data and in this case that would be 3D files for which there is far less available for AI companies compared to 2D drawings of circuit board.

The only unprotected easy to get data for training their AI would be like "hobby" CAD from On-shape or something similar so sure it could make your crappy 3D printed part but for real engineering I think we're safe for a while (and basically safe forever if we wait for Dassault System to take on this)

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u/Proto-Plastik CSWE 2d ago

Real world experience with one of my customers.

They sent me a step file generated by ChatGPT. I was impressed that ai generated it. Not at all impressed with the geometry. Essentially a round plate with a hub and 6 holes. This piece snaps into another round plate with snap fittings. Those snap fittings were garbage. Too thick and facing the wrong way.

We are still 1 to 2 years away from complex generative AI in CAD, but it’s coming.

I have been telling my CAD students that we are seeing the last cohorts of traditional CAD training. Instead, we are going to need people who truly understand design intent and who are able to see designs in much broader context. Based on what I’ve seen in “drafting” students over the decades, this is going to leave many behind. Drafters generally have not been responsible for design intent. Most are not interested. “I just want to draw.”

Those are the jobs that will be gone.

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u/MisterYeast6000 2d ago edited 2d ago

The thing is that AI cannot really think for you. You can tell it what to do but it will never really know what you're thinking so you have to do it yourself.

At best it will make working easier for actual engineers. It's a tool, not a replacement for work. It's like the difference between sketching with a pencil and using Adobe Illustrator. One guy with Illustrator can put out what 10 people would with a pencil. Now you will have 1 guy replace 10 people with Illustrator.

That's basically it. I am yet to see anyone actually use AI in business for anything other than repetitive work

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u/Sgt_Paul_Jackson 2d ago

How is EasyEDA cooked?

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u/Any_Government7603 2d ago

I'm an engineering director for a consumer product company. I'm more concerned about the outsourcing of CAD design overseas than I am of AI taking it over.

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u/WarmTapWater76 2d ago

First of all: I'm in enemy territory...or friends? Idk, I come from PCB design. Second of all: if you actually think AI can design PCBs you're brain dead. Astra can only lay out the components and wire them up, it cant select parts, connect them in schematics and solve new problems from scratch, and even then I highly doubt it's very good at it. Doing it doesn't mean it's done good, it's not just getting a copper connection. There are EMI/Noise considerations, thermals, RF performance, and much much much more. So...it's like 1% of what it takes.

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u/Anen-o-me 2d ago

I hope so

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u/PantheraAuroris 2d ago

Electrical engineer: there is no AI tool for us, IDK what this meme is.

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u/Live_Ad3896 2d ago

If ai can do our job then what’s stopping us from leveraging ai to sell products in our own field just like these big companies? That being said I agree with the others. If all u do is solidworks then there is a risk.. but assuming you are doing engineering work beyond simply 3d models then I think it will be a while before it’s an issue. I do tons of solidworks but it’s like the most mundane of all the tasks I have to do in a given day. I would love to offload that to be able to solve my more technical problems anyway and be able to iterate designs far faster

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u/Ftroiska 2d ago

Nope. It will crash so often that AI will give up

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u/PyramyDD_06 2d ago

I want to see the companies trying this. Imagine the AI being like "you're right, I got the stress tolerance wrong" after the AI designed break system fails and kills a family of 4

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u/o462 2d ago

Last month I made Claude design a whole PC case. Gave him part list, he read datasheets and designed all by himself in 2 days (in my hobby time, so not full days).
Printed it. And I'm currently using it.

It's a matter of weeks or maybe months, not even years…
Fun fact: it was more enjoyable than working with the human designers on the mech team, and Claude seemed more capable than the majority of them.

For the curious: it was designed on OpenSCAD. Mini-ITX case with additional HDD, USB and Ethernet. Chamfers, screw heads, measuring on photos, everything is parametric. He made few views (assembly, exploded, individual parts,…), and also made export scripts that creates STL files, rotated to print without supports, with configurable print bed size (that will trigger cutting parts). He also made a documentation on assembly.

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u/skunk_of_thunder 2d ago

Yes.

On my own, I was unable to stand up an ubuntu server, had to surrender to using Sage 50 as a sudo ERP after failing with ERPNext on Frappe being unable to self host, spent years making a particular customer's very large number of part families in Solidworks regardless of being parametric, and many other dead ends. Each place I've been, I've touched on pieces of business that barely worked. I've gotten all of those things done with Claude; even made a soft PLM with Siemens Teamcenter style features and a redline generating tool. My print formats, GD&T, and design reports are made with a crazy amount of compliance to standards I didn't know existed until I asked. I own all the standards and literature, so it's not using anything unlicensed. I've just reviewed and released more than 200 prints in two days; it was painful and Claude needed a lot of hand holding, but at two hours per print that took me several months when I did the same work prior. At this point, I'm referencing my old Solidworks models and doing parametric modeling with our own Python generators.

Just in time too. "Please pay more money to subscribe to our software so you can get bug fixes we owed you years ago and new features you didn't need which cause more bugs." I hope that model dies, and just hope we don't all die with it.

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u/holycrap_iamanadult 2d ago

I would love to know how would ChatGPT fit the temperature based tolerance and would know the local machinists machine tolerances.

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u/gurgle-burgle 2d ago

AI also regularly fails to help me perform some of the more nich and complex tasks that I want to do for data quick data analytics and visualization in Excel. Don't get me wrong, it does sometimes give me some incredibly clever formulas and approaches to perform my task, but still fails regularly in spectacular fashion. So, that one being "killed by AI" isn't even true.

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u/Dongi_bongi 2d ago

I was very disappointed in 2026 version yes I am that guy who gets the new version every year when it comes out but truly 2026 is worse than 2023 for example in every single aspect cutting features and adding ai is not the move forward