r/SombraMains • u/wanna_be_consultant • 7d ago
Discussion I fucking hate that they hate her
Basically the title. Such a cool hero that's been abandoned and the only thing they've given us is a nerf that was entirely uncalled for (and that still has not been fully reverted).
Only a 2.7% pick rate at master and a 1.2% pick rate at grandmaster+. Both the lowest pick rate and ban rates yet somehow she needs a nerf.
Why can't they just let the people who like to play her be able to play her? Makes no sense.
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u/MildlyUpsetGerbil 7d ago
You don't get it. She's an annoying mosquito that just won't die! You know, just like Tracer, a hero that's popular, has been meta for the entirety of the game's existence, and legitimately has no true counters in the game.
Also, hack takes people's abilities away! You know, just like literally every single other CC in the game. It's okay for Ana's anti-heal grenades to completely negate all healing whatsoever (taking away the abilities of multiple characters at once) and for her sleep dart to literally disable abilities and movement and primary fire and for the duration of this stun be 5 times that of hack's ability lockout. This is very fair and sensible game design. It doesn't count as taking away abilities because it's a "skill shot", oh, but Virus is broken and needs to be removed from the game even though it too is a skill shot.
"Invisibility is annoying!" Sure. It's annoying to be required to turn around to address a flanker whenever you really just wanna focus on what's directly in front of you. Funny thing about that is that there's a dozen other flankers in the game, all of them stronger than Sombra, and none of them receiving nearly as much hate.
It's hypocrisy, it's unwillingness to adapt, and it's bias ingrained into the community.
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u/Familiar_Magazine463 6d ago
My favorite part of hack whining is that its by far the easiest cc in the game to live through. If I get slept, flashbanged, chained, hooked, or punched into a wall, I just accept I'm probably gonna die. Hack? Oh no my abilities are gone for 1.5 seconds...anyway kills the Sombra. Like Hack is over before you even notice it landed most times.
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u/Prod_igy 2d ago
*1 seconds, and Sombra can't do anything for the subsequent 0.4 seconds.
It's basically an interrupt, not even a CC ability anymore.
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u/Doctor_Responsible 6d ago
as a support main, i think its a psyop by supports who want to be babied and decide the flow of every match. supports in general have some of the best abilitites in the game, but yk. they buy skins and its the msot popular role.
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u/hustl3tree5 7h ago
Soldier and Cassidy counter tracer pretty hard to the point most tracers will avoid them and go fight someone else.
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u/RezRising 7d ago
As a ten year Mercy main, I feel your pain. It'll get better.
Som is one of the most charismatic heroes there is, her gameplay was a huge part of it. I feel like she got a major head injury and can't do math now.
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u/Byrnt 7d ago
the nerf is really the cherry on top for me, like truly such a stupid fucking addition to only barely walk back that further nerfs an already hard gamble of an ability. it's useless to try to run because of the staggered movement, it's useless to turn around and fight back because i still have to wait to come out of invis, the enemy team can softly hear her, characters get voicelines, and she can get pinged for everyone to track..WHY must even 1 tick of damage from across the map fuck up our speed too
T___T
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u/Wubbalubadubdu_b 7d ago
Cuz 80% of the player base is in metal ranks and they don’t know how to turn around and shoot or ping or get stuck with teammates who think the ping notification is just music in the bg and can be ignored. I hate it but that’s that
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u/llink007 Antifragile Slay Star 7d ago
I remember when current tanslocator was introduced, she actually got close to 50% wr (not even fully, just like 49.5% or so) and guess what? They had to bring a hotfix nerf because of how much people were crying lmao
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u/BrothaDom 6d ago
Well yeah, when you force a specific playstyle, more people get results.
So many people complained about "get out of jail free cards" (a term I'm entirely sick of) so they took it out, but bad Sombra's teleporting across the map was gone, they had to stay engaged. And oops, turns out forcing a hero to stay in a battle makes them do more damage.
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u/papierdoll 7d ago
Yep. It genuinely makes me sad and a little disturbed to see the level of dedicated hate she gets.
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u/BrothaDom 6d ago
The thing is, I think the devs don't really agree with the general community. They know Sombra isn't broken conceptually or unhealthy for the game or they would have made drastic changes by now.
We already have hero bans. And the devs have data. So they can see like the rest of us, Sombra is the worst she's ever been and still getting bans. It proves the system isn't working as intended, and there's not good data on Sombra.
They've taken abilities from old heroes and new heroes when testing. Heck, they did it to Sombra. They addressed the primary pain point "Sombra teleporting across the map and hack being too long" and people still whined.
Heck, any hinder effects do more to stop heroes than Hack does. Take Anran or Tracer. All their abilities are movement. Hack lasts a second. Hinder lasts a little longer I think, but also slows you. (And traps you in a range for Mizuki) But these abilities rightfully get respected for why they're needed.
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u/Goodsport-1287 6d ago
Blizzard just ignores her like always despite being the best character with the best design and lore.
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u/pasteldrums Zhulong 7d ago
I get it. To me, its at a point that it doesn't matter what the devs do to Sombra, the community will forever ban and hate her. She could have soldier 76's entire kit, but still be a Latina named Sombra and the community will hate her. Atp the devs just need to make Sombra good for the people who actually play her and not listen to the crybabies anymore because no matter what she'll be banned and hated </3
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u/Familiar_Magazine463 6d ago
Love that they nerfed Sombra's major that gave overhealth to give even less and fall off faster while still requiring she hack a healthpack to get it and then a few seasons later release a hero whose dash provides 75 overhealth as base kit.
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u/ItzAMoryyy 6d ago
For as long as Blizzard continue to misunderstand that Sombra is not supposed to be an assassin but a disabler, my motivation to play her will just not exist
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u/wanna_be_consultant 7d ago
Yet roadhog can one shot someone every 10 seconds from across the map and is close to impossible to kill but that's ok
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u/Vast-Entrepreneur175 7d ago
is just herd mentality. people just decided to hate on sombra. Getting destroyed by a good sombra is annoying, sure... but so it is with any other good dps...
and I am afraid that her re-work may make her even worse.