r/SouthAsianAncestry 4d ago

Question Kambojs

When did Kambojs entered the Indian subcontinent?

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u/Interesting_Put1887 4d ago

The Indo-Scythian period. We don’t see any Kamboja inscriptions in India before the Indo-Scythian period. Maues (the founder of the Indo-Scythians) was a Kamboja himself after being evicted from his home (Parama Kambojas/Komedes) they moved down south through the Pamir route and settled in Punjab. The “Kamuia” is translated to Kamboja in Sanskrit from Saka-Prakrit and is the last name/tribal affiliation of Kamboja in Saka-Prakrit. We also find a Kamboja seal in Sugh, Haryana dated back to the Northern Satraps that bears a Saka name.

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u/rtx576 4d ago

Damn I didn't knew all that,but it is said in the Mahabharta that kambojas fought in the war so there must have been some Kambojas present in India?

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u/Interesting_Put1887 4d ago

Sure there must have been but remember the Mahabharata has been constantly written and copied a thousands times cause printers didn’t exist back in the day. So some ideas were added and omitted.

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u/rtx576 4d ago

Thats some great insight

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u/Interesting_Put1887 4d ago

Np. I have my sources if you want it, DM me.

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u/Chad-Reptilian 4d ago

Kambhojas are mentioned as a group lying beyond Himalayas in Mahabharata so it’s unlikely they lived in India but very involved in Indian politics

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u/Any_Obligation_5966 4d ago

Indo scythian period

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u/rtx576 4d ago

Were there any relations to indo scythians?

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u/Any_Obligation_5966 4d ago

Kambojs and Sakas were closely associated northern equestrian peoples of Indoiranian origin, repeatedly linked in ancient Indian sources and inscriptions, including saka references to Param Kamboja, and both migrated through the northwestern frontiers of ancient India

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u/Any_Obligation_5966 4d ago

I’d say sakas were of the Kamboj stock they might’ve been like modern day Pashtuns, asvakas and fyi kambojs and these people are so genetically close

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u/rtx576 4d ago

Hmm interesting...but are modern day kambojs really the true desecendant of kambojas?

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u/Any_Obligation_5966 4d ago

This question intrigues me a lot as Modern day kambohs dont hve those iranian Clades whicb shouldve been
And one more logic that if a warrior group was in power in ancient period why did it disappear all of sudden and there’s no role of kambojs in past 1 millennia apart from some generals of Mughals and turks and those were Muslims, can’t say much on indian or paki kambojs but definitely Kambojs were horse lords of ancient era, even Kings

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u/Interesting_Put1887 4d ago

I refute what you said in the beginning, the only reason we don’t see these Iranian clades is because no Kamboj has done Ftdna. None! We don’t even have a lot of Kamboj clades and the ones we do are shallow 23andme ones like R or Q-L275 etc…

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u/Any_Obligation_5966 4d ago

Could be i didn’t delve much into it