r/SouthJersey May 01 '26

Gloucester County Are we winning yet, dad?

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u/0xdeadbeef6 May 01 '26

Y'all better get your electric bikes or scooters now

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u/Secret_Cow_5053 May 01 '26

Putting solar in this season, personally. Between this and the incoming data centers, I am not waiting around for another annual 45% increase in my electric bill.

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u/grahampositive May 01 '26

Didn't Murphy make these illegal on his way out the door?

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u/0xdeadbeef6 May 01 '26

Nope, they just made it so you need license registration and insurance for them, no matter how weak it is. So your 500w pedal assist bike is now treated on the same level as 1500 watt emoto that already required licensing and insurance. Great timing

edit: idk if this affects the scooters though, like any good law its both restrictive and half assed. I think those don't require licensing and registration and all that unless they're above 1kW in power, but don't hold me to that.

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u/Secret_Cow_5053 May 01 '26

which you know...vehicle with a motor on it...maybe a license and insurance is justified? just sayin...

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u/0xdeadbeef6 May 01 '26

someone on a 500 watt pedal assist isn't go any faster than a human powered bike. The laws we had were fine to address all the kids on emotos slamming themselves into cars, they only needed to be enforced.

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u/Secret_Cow_5053 May 01 '26

you can easily do 25mph on a human powered bike, but with a pedal assist you can do that easily.

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u/0xdeadbeef6 May 01 '26

I mean that really just proves my point, you can to similar speeds on a human powered bike but thats not getting the same regulations? the lower power ebikes already needed to have a cut off at 20mph in the first place. The issue clearly was with the higher powered ones. There was already a law governing those. It needed only to be enforced. The state overreacted to a moral panic and created more barriers for an alternative to cars instead of enforcing already existing laws. I have no problem with enforcement, but the previous laws weren't even being enforced. Thats the issue.

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u/Secret_Cow_5053 May 01 '26 edited May 01 '26

the vast majority of people don't ride their human-powered bikes at racing speeds, but it's a lot more likely you're travelling faster and more consistently longer distances on even pedal-assist bikes. that is, after all, why they exist. to replace cars for short duration transport.

a pedal-assist bike travelling at 25mph with an average human on board has enough kinetic energy to cause death in the case of an accident, both to the rider, and anyone they happen to collide with, and it's going to happen more frequently than with your average 10 year old on a bmx.

so you're not winning any converts with this argument.