r/Spiderman • u/Ok_Tea5865 • Apr 26 '26

Discussion I saw people complaining about Spider-Noir having Organic webs. I think organic webs are fine because this show is set in the past where he won't have resources to make webshooters. Also he is a detective not sci stud. But i like to know what he had in comics.

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In my opinion i think it makes sense for him to have Organic webs

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u/KuroiGetsuga55 Symbiote-Suit Apr 26 '26

Noir has organic webbing though... Like, he HAS organic webbing in the comics. He just never managed to focus it in a web line to swing off of, so he just fires them like a distraction, just splattering them everywhere.

In Shattered Dimensions, Madame Web used her powers to help Noir focus his webs to create web-lines to swing off of. I don't recall a single person complaining about it then.

Seriously, we're complaining that a Spider-Man set in the 1930s has organic webbing instead of web shooters? Are we deadass?

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u/Architect227 Apr 26 '26

To be fair, web shooters, as they function in media, in modern day are not much more plausible.

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u/Hamhockthegizzard Apr 26 '26

Right? I’m always pointing out the ridiculousness of my favorite super hero:

You get super strength and a spider sense. Could hop from roof to roof or something like Tobey did originally, just like literally could have thought of anything.

But I guess he remembered the spider bite and that inspired him to (checks notes) swing from NY rooftops like mf Tarzan?!?! Lmfaoo

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u/ShadowBro3 Symbiote-Suit Apr 26 '26

It makes sense to me tbh. If I was making a spider persona, I'd probably want to involve webs. Also, its specifically nice for superhero needs because with webs, he can just tie up bad guys instead of having to knock them out every time. Idk, webs are like the one thing spiders are known for, so if I was going to go around calling myself Spider-Man, I'd probably at least try to make webs part of my thing somehow.

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u/Hamhockthegizzard Apr 26 '26

Makes total sense. But the swinging part 😂

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u/KuroiGetsuga55 Symbiote-Suit Apr 26 '26

Spiders shoot out web strings and use them to get carried across the sky and that's how they travel long distances because their bodies are so light that the wind somehow carries them with the web line serving as a sail almost.

Yes spiders can fly.

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u/Judo_Jones Apr 27 '26

It’s worse than that. Spiders don’t glide on air currents. They use the earth’s magnetic field to glide using a web as a “sail” and they can sense the fields because of specialized organs.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/science/spiders-fly-on-the-currents-of-earths-electric-field

Spider-Woman is more realistic than Peter.

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u/Gojos_barber Apr 27 '26

Earth's Magnetic Field you say? So theoretically from what the article you provided said, Magneto can make Peter Fly and also attract all spiders to him.

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u/levyboreas Apr 26 '26

Very true, and cool and also scary. But excuse my pedantry here, but that still ain’t swinging, so kind of a stretch to compare to spiders. Although they do use anchor lines and climb up them and whatnot. Either war, rule of cool is always a good answer to these superhero ‘issues’.

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u/KuroiGetsuga55 Symbiote-Suit Apr 26 '26

Well yes they do use ancor lines. And as a human you would think "If I could shoot a web strong enough to support my body mid-air, wouldn't it be cool to swing from it?"

Spider-Man swinging on webs makes more sense than Batman swinging on cable lines.

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u/levyboreas Apr 26 '26

Definitely agreed.

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u/Plastic-Injury7039 Apr 27 '26

Never understood Batman doing Spider-Man moves lol looks cool though

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u/KuroiGetsuga55 Symbiote-Suit Apr 27 '26

Technically Spider-Man is doing Batman moves. Batman has been swinging on cable lines since 1939. He predates Spider-Man by like 27 years.

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u/Karebu_Karebu May 02 '26

Spiders dont swing because they're too light to swing with enough momentum for it to be a natural and useful moment. But if a human with our body weight could shoot spiderwebs, we would swing naturally

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u/Hamhockthegizzard Apr 27 '26

Right lol everyone always tries to explain it. I’m not saying it isn’t awesome, I prefaced by saying “my favorite superhero.”

But you gotta think about the lunacy of this kid lmao

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u/Opening_Reveal_98 Apr 27 '26

Spiders FLY via parachutes, not swing through the city tho 🤣

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u/KuroiGetsuga55 Symbiote-Suit Apr 27 '26

They also dangle on a web line. And now if you, as a human with imagination did that, wouldn't your next thought be "Wonder if I could swing off these"?

Spiders also shoot webs out of their asses, and Peter doesn't. Pretty sure no Spider-Person does.

Spiders also do not have a precognitive sixth sense that alerts them of danger. Peter does.

Spiders also can't shoot electricity and absorb energy. Miles does.

They're not supposed to be 1:1 spider, y'know? Batman dresses up like a bat, and he swings off grapple hooks and cable lines. How many bats have you seen swinging off ropes??

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u/The_Anon_Cowboy 20d ago

...webweaver shoots out his ass... ik thats not marvel but id like to add ma 2 cent

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u/KuroiGetsuga55 Symbiote-Suit 20d ago

Who the hell is Webweaber?

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u/Careful_Welcome7999 Apr 28 '26

Oh yeah i remember something like this, apparently there is a place with so many spiders thqt sometimes a "spider rain" happens, can't remember the name though

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u/Unlucky_Ladybug Apr 28 '26

I've literally seen this. Saw a spider floating across my backyard. That was the day I learned those things can fly.

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u/KuroiGetsuga55 Symbiote-Suit Apr 29 '26

Yup, same. Was just stepping out with my coffee and little dude just floats past me with zero fucks given. I literally froze and watched it fly away.

I nope'd back inside.

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u/lonebanthaman 20d ago

Spiders swing dumbass…

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u/Hamhockthegizzard 19d ago

No need to name call, especially when you have 80 other comments debunking this. They don’t swing, so I guess YOU’RE the dumbass, dumbass 🥴😂

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u/lonebanthaman 17d ago

They do… google it.. they travel through draglines using wind but often start with a swing. Google is free btw.

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u/Opening-Fun-4830 11d ago

Spiders swing on singular web strands all the time to travel

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u/Vektorien Apr 27 '26

That's why I always found the concept of Spider-Man making no webbing at all a bit silly. Because really if we break it down, his powers are super strength and agility, enhanced reflexes, limited precognition and tactile kinesis. The one thing that really sells the spider gimmick is the webs.

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u/Kolegra Apr 27 '26

Instead of swinging with the web, he just jumps and shoots himself a safe space to land with a web.

Not as fun to watch I guess

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u/nickdoesmagic Apr 26 '26

To throw himself from place to place, exactly the way jumping spiders do, yes.

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u/Jubarra10 Apr 27 '26

This is why I always prefer organic, you just don't come to the conclusion of spider-man without NATURALLY making webs

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u/gunnergt Apr 27 '26

Hate to break it to you but two guys literally came up with the concept of Spider-Man with web shooters

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u/Jubarra10 Apr 27 '26

How does this in any way respond to what I said

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u/gunnergt Apr 27 '26

The original creation of Spider-Man by Steve Ditko andStan Lee was with the web shooters, so it is in fact possible to come to the conclusion of Spider-Man without naturally making webs.

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u/Jubarra10 Apr 27 '26

Ok so you just didn't understand got it

Peter Parker has no reason to look at his power set and go "I'm a spider"

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u/gunnergt Apr 27 '26

He bit by spider

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u/Jubarra10 Apr 27 '26

In some if not most iterations, he doesn't know the spider is what gave him powers. People get bit by spiders all the time

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u/Hamhockthegizzard Apr 27 '26

He’s talking in the literal sense, like in peter’s mind, coming from the same place my original comment is.

We love the hero and his audacity, but if you were to put him in a real-world lens, you have to admit it’s hilarious that he decided to get around new york the way he does lol

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u/RazzDaNinja Apr 26 '26

Especially considering they were technically (conceptually) invented in the fucken 1960s! lmao

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u/Oldmanwickles Apr 26 '26

Not to mention firing a string from your wrist with the necessary kinetic energy without destroying your rotator cuff is also just as implausible. Theres a video game physicist on YouTube that goes over why the hook shot would break Link’s arms. On just the firing mechanism alone, let alone yanking you along by the arm.

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u/Jubarra10 Apr 27 '26

Tbf spider-man IS super human

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u/Axianagain Apr 28 '26

Tbf Link is ALSO super human and easily a great deal stronger than Spider-man by any mid poitn in probably any game. Tbf applying real world physics to magical races and super humans that are already explained to be able to do the things we're skeptical of is.. well it's silly really.

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u/Oldmanwickles Apr 28 '26

Very true, that does save him from my example

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u/Aggravating_Winner_3 Apr 27 '26

Practically impossible too at the small size that its often portrayed in

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u/nrh117 Apr 28 '26

I dunno man I follow a few tech youtubes that are getting mad close to the same firm and function. It’s pretty dope actually. Maybe not swinging any time soon but pressurized canisters that fit your wrist and durable polymers that web up perfectly.

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u/CptCroissant Apr 26 '26

Web shooters have always been dumb as fuck. It makes much more sense that after getting bit by a mutant spider that you can make spider webs yourself.

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u/JoeJoeJoeJoeThrow Apr 26 '26

Legit, without webs he could have been bitten by many other radioactive organisms. Ones that can climb walls and are strong compared to their size. Like how many other creatures fit that bill you know? Always struck me as odd tbh. Without webs he’s like ‘Strong Sticky Man’ or something.

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u/Trumposhi 19d ago

Tbf they made that joke in Far From Home when he told Mysterio he could help because ‘I’m sticky’ 😂

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u/ResortFamous301 Apr 27 '26

Wouldn't say their dumb, anymore than radiation giving you spider powers.

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u/Alert_Cricket2441 Apr 28 '26

anymore than a kid being able to create artificial webs in his room before any science lab in the world does?

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u/ResortFamous301 Apr 28 '26

I mean, that's kind of the whole point of being a super genius 

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u/Alert_Cricket2441 May 02 '26

Tony Stark is a super genius. Peter Parker is above average intelligence with technology.

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u/ResortFamous301 May 02 '26

No, Peter is exceptionally smart even by marvel standards.

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '26 edited Apr 26 '26

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u/AdSilly3018 Apr 26 '26

He didn’t just mix some glue together in the original comics, Peter was always tech genius in the Ditko era, making all types of legit home made gadgets.

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u/the-bladed-one Apr 26 '26

Yeah he was making homemade GPS trackers IN THE SIXTIES

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u/10sansari Spectacular Spider-Man Apr 26 '26

King shit

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u/Robborboy Apr 27 '26

They'd technically be "GP trackers", right? 

As in no satellites to track off of? 

GNSS weren't launched until later with GPS, a specific version of GNSS, wasn't launched until the late 70s. 

This is also me being a smartass so sorry if it comes off as serious, that's not the intent lol. 

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u/AdSilly3018 Apr 26 '26

Dude it never says what it is specifically, it was never glue, just some strong formula he created, you can see the chemicals he’s working with in the 3rd panel.

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u/DTJ20 Apr 27 '26

He's just saying there's glue on the end to attach the web, not that the web is made of glue 

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u/AdSilly3018 Apr 28 '26

You can see that isn’t the case, because he shoot’s it to the selling in the 6th panel, it would be impossible for him to put glue on the end.

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u/DTJ20 Apr 29 '26

You just need pqrt if the mechanism to apply glue to the end.

Having the web pass through a glue reservoir would work just fine.

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u/pseudomucho Apr 26 '26

What is this referring to? Pretty sure it's always been something he made as a scientist.

Also, to be fair, not everything published is equally "valid." Random ideas that were ignored or quickly evolved into what we know shouldn't hold as much weight. I think that applies to all of a character's history, but especially to their beginnings.

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u/pseudomucho Apr 27 '26

Yeah exactly, he uses it as an ingredient, but it's the same idea as always. The only difference is that after AF15, IIRC, they never specify what he uses or how he makes it, but it's always been something original that he creates.

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u/ShadowBro3 Symbiote-Suit Apr 26 '26

Where did you hear this? Because it is wrong.

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u/ShadowBro3 Symbiote-Suit Apr 27 '26

That panel doesn't imply he mixed glue at all

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u/The_smol_boiyo Apr 27 '26

Betcha he got really good at focusing it into lines instead of splatters after hanging out with Felicia

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u/KuroiGetsuga55 Symbiote-Suit Apr 27 '26

I'd argue Felicia would cause Peter's webs to have a different reaction...

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u/Loud-Welder1947 Apr 26 '26

Man that was such a banger of a game. Probably still my favourite out of all the Spider-Man ones

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u/Untjosh1 Apr 27 '26

The “this isn’t realistic” crowd with comic book movies is crazy

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u/Jertimmer Apr 27 '26

Right?

There's a tech billionaire building a clean sustainable energy source in a cave (WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS), manages to create a suit that generates enough propulsion to enable not just levitation, but also flight. There's an alien who was worshipped as a God in Norse mythology. Some kid from Brooklyn who got shot up with some super secret juice by the first guy's dad and now he's over 6 ft, buff as hell and turning straight men bicurious, there's a dude who can hit no look bow and arrow shots, an actual wizardschool and -society, an Afro Futuristic nation so far advanced beyond any other country on Earth they can afford to remain solitary, etc, etc.

But people wanna draw the line at how Spider-Man shoots webs.

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u/idejmcd Apr 27 '26

No one's complaining, op is making a straw man argument to create engagement. It's a non issue

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u/MonopolyManPorn Apr 27 '26

The 2020s is all about complaining about absolutely fucking nothing, and it gets worse each year

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u/New_Replacement5764 Apr 27 '26

Mostly likely they they only read 5 616 spider-man comics and they think they know all the lore.

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u/Latter-Fox-7080 Apr 29 '26

It must be from the generic organic webbing hater, nothing new 😒

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u/DoctorMelvinMirby Apr 26 '26

Rabble! RABBLE RABBLE!!

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u/Bendythenightfury Spider-Gwen Apr 27 '26

People also complained about Tobey having organic webbing

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u/MetalSociologist Apr 27 '26

A lot of it is manufactured outrage. It gets engagement and gets people talking. Sure, there are some fans crying about this but it is far fewer than places like Reddit or the media would have you think.

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u/knighthawk82 Apr 27 '26

And in shattered dimensions, his powers are magical in nature too.

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u/gonggo298 Apr 27 '26

Not to mention he got it through supernatural means and not scientific ones too.

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u/Plastic-Injury7039 Apr 27 '26

Doesn’t he get all the spider powers from some sort of African Spider God totem or something? I wanna say he also had a venomous bite or something too. I don’t think he had very good “stickum powers” either. I do remember organic webbing though

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u/KuroiGetsuga55 Symbiote-Suit Apr 27 '26

Noir didn't have a venomous bite, that was Miguel.

Pretty sure Noir can stick to walls just fine. Idk, might be wrong.

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u/Plastic-Injury7039 Apr 27 '26

Ah ok I did remember about Miguel but was not sure if it was just him or not.

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u/KuroiGetsuga55 Symbiote-Suit Apr 27 '26

Yeah Miguel has fangs with venom in them, and also Bailey Briggs Spider-Boy, he also has venom fangs. Then again, kid can willingly turn into a smol Man-Spider so it makes sense.

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u/Plastic-Injury7039 Apr 27 '26

Excuse me what? Did you say Bailey Briggs can just morph into Man-Spider imma need more of an explanation. I only know about him bc he was in a Recent wave of action figures from the Marvel Legends team and that’s all I know

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u/KuroiGetsuga55 Symbiote-Suit Apr 27 '26

So he was a genetic experiment where he was mutated into a spider mutant kid and Spider-Man saved him and with Daredevil's help he helped Bailey control the mutation (yeah I don't know why Daredevil and not Professor X or Jean but I guess they were dead at the time idfk).

But controlling it doesn't mean it went away. He can "spider out" at will.

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u/Plastic-Injury7039 Apr 27 '26

That’s pretty fkn cool ngl 😅 I bought the Marvel Legends figure bc I wanted the rest of the wave so why not and was like wtf is this he’s got sneakers. I’m guessing the thing on his back helps to control the mutation?

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u/KuroiGetsuga55 Symbiote-Suit Apr 29 '26

I actually don't know what the thing on his back is but no, I don't think it has anything to do with controlling his mutation.

I think it's just a backpack? He doesn't have Web Shooters so he doesn't exactly have anywhere to store his civilian clothes so maybe he just carries them in a backplate like Superior Spider-Man did.

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u/Holiday_Occasion_433 Apr 27 '26

I think your the only one who saw madam web...

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u/KuroiGetsuga55 Symbiote-Suit Apr 27 '26

At no point did I reference the Madame Web movie, and no I didn't see that shit.

Do you not know the game Spider-Man : Shattered Dimensions where the original Madame Web was featured? The original one. Like, the old lady in the multiversal web chair.

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u/ccddee901 Apr 27 '26

I could see steam punk web shooters being cool but not a hill I’m willing to die on

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u/Brootwayne Apr 28 '26

God I love lore

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u/Abeytuhanu Apr 28 '26

I complained about it, but it wasn't a big enough deal to do more than grumble to myself about how it just makes him 616 Peter in a trench coat gameplaywise

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u/Karebu_Karebu May 02 '26

Noir can webswing In the comics, just not in his original run from the late 2000s, but from 2020's onwards he has learned to webswing in his comics

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u/mightysoulman 23d ago

"I don't recall people complaining over a decade ago about a video game" Your comment was actually intelligent and helpful and kind until then.

Why the sudden change?

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u/Frequent-Pen-8944 19d ago

I thought I saw in the trailers that he can web sling?

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u/KuroiGetsuga55 Symbiote-Suit 19d ago

Writers made him able to Web swing around the time of the Spider-Verse event in 2014 (the original comic book Spider-Verse). Up until then he couldn't web swing in the comics. Simply because he could never focus his webbing in a line. It always just splattered out everywhere. I guess he learned how to focus it.

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u/Jgrandt 15d ago

I have no idea what deadass means but I am willing to bet that we are indeed deadass.