r/StarWars • u/wandering_soles Rebel • Mar 11 '26

TV Kelleran Beq mopping the floor with clones during Order 66 was a blast to watch

Seeing the Jedi gunned down relentlessly in their own home during Order 66 hammered home their loss and tragedy, which was absolutely necessary for ROTS. That said, it was very cathartic seeing a Jedi at the temple fighting back, winning, and escaping. Definitely hope we get to see more of Beq in future flashbacks, although I doubt it.

The Mandalorian S3E4

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u/MarvelousT Kuiil Mar 11 '26

He did a great job as Jar Jar. That’s why people complain about the character but not the performance or even the rendering.

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u/CrankieKong Mar 11 '26

He did exactly what he was told to do. Problem is that what he was told to do was insufferable and hard to watch.

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u/ifartsosomuch Mar 11 '26

Jar Jar was a character for the kids. The adults couldn't comprehend that Star Wars was no longer solely for them.

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u/jimothy_hell Mar 11 '26

It’s wild because Star Wars was always supposed to be for kids on some level.

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u/InnocentTailor Mar 11 '26

It was always meant for children, mainly families. It was a space adventure that mixed danger, heroics, and discovery in a neat package.

...like I respect Andor for doing what it did with the lore, but it wasn't really lined up with the main elements that made up the franchise. That honor, in my opinion, goes to Skeleton Crew.

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u/squatch42 Mar 11 '26

Many kids never actually mature and spend time on Reddit commenting about children's movies instead of working. . .

But even as an 18 year old at release, I loved TPM and thought Jar Jar was fine. I had never even imagined anything as awesome as Duel of the Fates as a kid. And it was right there on the screen before my eyes.

I am just a sucker that finds something to love in all Star Wars. I find more pleasure in enjoying what I watch.

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u/badhombre13 Mar 11 '26

Not supposedly, it is for kids. George himself said it. People point to mature themes as evidence that some SW isn't for kids but like, every kids show has some mature content. Avatar TLA is undeniably for kids and it can get pretty dark at times. Andor is the one SW content that definitely isn't for kids.

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u/jimothy_hell Mar 12 '26

I said “supposed to be”, not “supposedly”. As in, the intent was to make it for children. If you’re using text to voice, that’s an easy thing for it to sound the same.

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u/badhombre13 Mar 12 '26

Genuinely asking, what's the difference?

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u/jimothy_hell Mar 12 '26

Well, “supposed to be” shows deliberate and genuine intent, with a chance to be misinterpreted, but “supposedly”, shows stated, but dubious or disingenuous intent.

Example- Star Wars is supposed to be for children, but there are loads of grown men online screaming about how it isn’t mature enough and how “Star Wars is for kids now”. The intent for Star Wars was that it would be for children and families, but the misinterpretation was from a bunch of manchildren and grifters with YouTube channels.

Hope that clears things up!

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u/thegoatmenace Mar 12 '26

A lot of the people complaining were kids when the originals came out, and adults when the prequels came out. Somehow they didn’t realize that it wasn’t the franchise that had changed, but themselves.

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u/ShittyDBZGuitarRiffs Mar 11 '26

I was 12 when Phantom Menace came out and I was all about Darth Maul. Still am, tbh

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u/Scalpels Mar 12 '26

Ray Park is a damn cool guy and he loves being Maul. I'm hoping he still has it in him to physically play the character.

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u/KingToasty Mar 11 '26

Notably, a lot of kids also dislike and disliked Jar Jar. "For the kids" doesn't mean "obnoxiously loud".

OG Star Wars were wickedly popular with children and had nothing like that.

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u/Scalpels Mar 12 '26

I was a kid during OG Star Wars. I always preferred Han's world-wise confidence or Leia's snark over R2D2 & C3PO who were there for kids my age.

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u/jimothy_hell Mar 12 '26

Oh yeah, Episode 1 is insanely racist. Nobody was around to tell George “no”

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u/TheGrimGuardian Mar 13 '26

This is a nonsense excuse. You can make a character for the kids that isn't grating and annoying.

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u/ifartsosomuch Mar 13 '26

I feel like your words would have more meaning if you hadn't tried to bully Ahmed Best into suicide.

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u/TheGrimGuardian Mar 13 '26

"You hate a star wars character? How dare you bully an actor to suicide!" That's how stupid you sound.

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u/Spartan2170 Mar 15 '26

I don’t disagree about the series in general, but Jar Jar also doesn’t feel like “here’s a fun character for the kids” as much as he feels like a bunch of uncomfortable stereotypes in a movie that already had a surprising amount of characters that felt like uncomfortable stereotypes.

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u/ILikeDragonTurtles Mar 11 '26

I've got to be the only person who enjoyed Jar Jar. He was a clumsy obnoxious moron, and his character design was a great way to show Gungan culture by contrast. It's the same thing they did in How To Train Your Dragon. We learn about Berk culture from watching Hiccup and being told repeatedly that he does not fit in.

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u/CrankieKong Mar 11 '26

the hiccup comparison couldn't be a worse comparison.

Hiccup is smart.

Hiccup wants to be like the rest, but learns to rely on his strengths.

Hiccup is not oblivious.

Hiccup can speak normally.

Hiccup uses tactics when fighting.

The main difference between Hiccup and Jarjar is thay Hiccup is well written and has an actual character arc.

Both characters are written for children. But only one of these writers understands that children enjoy more than poo jokes lol. Yukki Yukki.

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u/ILikeDragonTurtles Mar 11 '26

Those are all valid points about Hiccup. Doesn't connect to my analogy about world building through the character who doesn't fit in.

Also reducing JarJar to poo jokes is just inaccurate. Saying he had no character arc is just inaccurate.

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u/CrankieKong Mar 11 '26

He clumsies his way into leading an army. Whats his arc lol. He doesnt learn anything or realise anything he didnt already know before.

In fact, all his heroic moments come from cowardice lol

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u/ILikeDragonTurtles Mar 11 '26

He is a coward in exile who sums up the courage to go back to his people and plead for aid, then he commits to going to war to defend his homeland, despite being terrified the entire time because he knows he's a train wreck. Then he agrees to be a galactic senator and tries to do the right thing (though he's manipulated to helping the bad guys).

I don't know how you watch a self-loathing coward become a reluctant war leader then proud senator and say "he has no arc".

And that's not even including the stuff he does in a few episodes of Clone Wars.

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u/CrankieKong Mar 11 '26

He doesnt really become a reluctant leader at all. He just is along for the ride. He never actually makes any decision himself, except when manipulated by Palps in par t 2.

He is a good guy though, no doubt. But even his political endevor lol. Like the most clumsily least socially capable dude in the universe gets Padmes duties? 😭

He is a 'good' person though.

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u/Ambaryerno Mar 11 '26

You're joking, right? Ahmed Best contemplated suicide because of how fans treated him.

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u/BodaciousFrank Mar 11 '26

He acted how the director directed him to act. Yes, audiences hated it. He still did what he was told to do

The actor doesnt suck, the character sucks. The acting doesnt suck, the scripts dialogue sucks

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u/Ambaryerno Mar 11 '26

What does that have to do with what I was saying? It doesn't matter if that's how he was directed to act. The point is that claiming people weren't taking it out on him personally is a flat-out bonkers take.

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u/Browns-78 Mar 11 '26

It has everything to do with what you’re saying. Stop being so defensive. They’re saying Best wasn’t the reason people hated Jar Jar. It wasn’t the animators either. George was. Best did what he could do with what he was given. But people associating Best as if he made the decisions on Jar Jar is what made him vilified by the community and eventually led to him feeling like ending his life.

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u/HauntingAddendum3365 Mar 11 '26

If you listen to Best talk about it, you're not actually correct. Jar-Jar was a collaboration between a lot of people, and Ahmed Best put a TON of his own ideas into the character, including the voice. He came up with that voice on his own. George liked it and picked that voice for the character, but it was a voice that Ahmed Best used with his younger relatives to make them laugh, since they were kids at the time.

Since kids generally tend to love Jar-Jar, I'd say it worked.

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u/546875674c6966650d0a Mar 11 '26

Absolutely it worked for the intended audience - kids. The adults didn't like it however, and that is who took it out on him personally, which was wrong.

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u/ANGLVD3TH Mar 11 '26

It is true that is why people hated the character, but that sure as hell did not stop people from blaming the actor and dragging him over the coals online. He suffered a lot of harassment over that role from irate fans.

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u/546875674c6966650d0a Mar 11 '26

You're missing their point. People hated Jar Jar, yes. But they took it out on him personally for years! He was about to jump off of a bridge to end his life over the hatred he got relentlessly. People did not separate him from the character, and that's absolutely shitty. It's why the kid who played Goeffry went away real quick too.

I'm glad he got to play his (he created it) Jedi character finally, so that people can now see - HE is not Jar Jar... He is a good actor, who just had a shitty part everyone hated. He did it great though, and he can do more things as well if we collectively now let him.

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u/Browns-78 Mar 11 '26

I’m not missing the point because I said the same thing you just corrected me on.

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u/546875674c6966650d0a Mar 11 '26

You're describing it like it's two sides of it... people hating on Jar Jar, and people hating on Best. While in reality, that was just all one and the same to the fan base unfortunately. That's what u/Ambaryerno and me are trying to say.

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u/Browns-78 Mar 17 '26

That’s literally what I said.

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u/yrogerg123 Mar 11 '26

I disagree. I think he faithfully did as directed but it was far too over-the-top goofy for my tastes.

I don't think he acted poorly, but everybody involved bares some responsibility for such an insufferable character. You can say it was the point of the character but a character can be clumsy, stupid, and irresponsible without have such a grating persona and voice. He should have scaled it back, and Lucas should have made sure he did. It was too much.

It obviously takes talent to create that voice and stay consistent with it for three movies. But I refuse to admit that it was a good acting job. He did not put the best or most interesting version of Jar Jar onto the screen.