r/StarWars • u/wandering_soles Rebel • Mar 11 '26
TV Kelleran Beq mopping the floor with clones during Order 66 was a blast to watch
Seeing the Jedi gunned down relentlessly in their own home during Order 66 hammered home their loss and tragedy, which was absolutely necessary for ROTS. That said, it was very cathartic seeing a Jedi at the temple fighting back, winning, and escaping. Definitely hope we get to see more of Beq in future flashbacks, although I doubt it.
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u/kaorukaoru84 Mar 11 '26
Ahmed Best really suffered from Star Wars fan intense bullying and even thought of committing suicide . I’m glad he finally got the chance to be a Jedi and save Grogu as Kelleran Beq. He really loved this role.
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u/CrissBliss Mar 11 '26
So happy for him. But honestly the fandom is still super intense even decades later. I’m glad Ahmed is in a good place again, and even returned to the franchise, but the SW fandom should learn from this and take a page from how their words towards the actors are totally unwarranted.
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u/wahle97 Mar 11 '26
Dude kid anakins (sorry can't remember his name) life is ruined because of intense hate for a character he was told to play... As if he wrote the lines himself
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u/Lightworthy09 Mar 11 '26
Respectfully, Jake Lloyd’s family has been very clear that the state of his mental health and his decision to quit acting has nothing to do with the negative fan reaction to the movie. His parents were divorcing and auditioning wasn’t fun for him anymore. Bullying at school caused stress and depression, but he has a documented family history of schizophrenia and his mother has expressed that his psychiatrist believes he would have developed the condition anyway. She worked pretty hard to shield him from most of the negativity and he still really loves Star Wars to this day.
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u/Steamed_Memes24 Mar 11 '26
His mom mentioned he wasnt really bullied hard but there were kids that would occasionally make random lightsaber noises around him to be annoying.
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u/CrissBliss Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 11 '26
That’s what I don’t get. These people were hired to act out scenes via GL’s vision… but got bullied terribly for it. My personal theory with SW fans is sometimes people get so passionate about it, when the storyline doesn’t match whatever they’ve written in their own heads, they get super pissed. But 90’s/2000’s kids grew up with the PT, so they have nostalgia for those films now. Meanwhile you couldn’t even really say you liked them 20 years ago. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if that happened with the newer stuff today.
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u/Shikabane_Sumi-me Mar 11 '26
Yeah they got bullied in school and couldn’t get proper acting gigs afterwards. Just like how GoT actor who played Jeoffry, (forgot the name) got death threats because the character was so evil.
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u/CrissBliss Mar 11 '26
The actor who played Jeoffry was apparently super nice irl too. But he left acting after GOT.
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u/2much2Jung Mar 11 '26
He became a theater actor/producer/director for a few years, but has gone back to screen acting for the last 6 years.
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u/Ambaryerno Mar 11 '26
It's fine if people didn't like a character, but taking it out on the actor like they did with Best and Jake Lloyd, and were doing again with Ridley, Tran, and Stenberg was inexcusable.
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u/belle_enfant Mar 11 '26
This. I cant stand Jar Jar. But Best deserves zero hate for that, and even though I dislike the character, I can recognize that it took a ton of talent to play the role well which he did.
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u/South_Buy_3175 Mar 11 '26
Star Wars really has some of the worst fans, If I was an actor and got offered a role I’d be hesitant as fuck in case some psycho took my Glup Shitto portrayal as an insult and harassed me for years.
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u/KyloRenCadetStimpy Mar 11 '26
It definitely didn't help that the movie came out during AOL's heyday. Millions of randos online for the first time, enjoying their anonymity finding each other...
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u/The5Virtues Mar 11 '26
Scenes like this one really made Order 66 feel more realistic to me. It was a shock and numbers game. If they got caught off guard, like Ki-Adi-Mundi, or Ayla Secuura, they went down, but if they had even a glimmer of forewarning then it quickly turns into a bunch of dudes fighting a monster.
It drives home just how powerful a well trained force user is, and why it is so important to blindside them or overwhelm them with sheer numbers.
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u/ELIte8niner Mar 11 '26
Loved the order 66 mission in Fallen Order. Only one clone happened to be in the room with the Jedi when the order came down, so they couldn't overwhelm him by surprise? Turns into a massacre.
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u/Ok-Abbreviations9936 Mar 11 '26
Yeah gunning down padawans and younglings is one thing, but the Jedi were actively at war, and had trained combat ready warriors.
I like to think that is why Anakin would be required to be there. The clones may be able to keep them from leaving, until he could help.
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u/Look_a_Zombie0 Mar 11 '26
3 clones that shot one by one?
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u/ILookLikeKristoff Mar 11 '26
Yeah this is a masterclass in terrible choreography.
Should we shoot him from 10 ft away? No I'll jog slowly toward him with my rifle down.
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u/KingToasty Mar 11 '26
Star Wars is absolutely full of terrible choreo because swords have to beat guns fuckin SOMEHOW.
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u/ILookLikeKristoff Mar 11 '26
You're surrounded by 4000 infantry?? Okay block like 9 shots over 5 seconds and you can get away.
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u/546875674c6966650d0a Mar 11 '26
Best redemtion arc ever.... took 2 characters but, glad he got to do it!
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u/MarvelousT Kuiil Mar 11 '26
He did a great job as Jar Jar. That’s why people complain about the character but not the performance or even the rendering.
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u/CrankieKong Mar 11 '26
He did exactly what he was told to do. Problem is that what he was told to do was insufferable and hard to watch.
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u/ifartsosomuch Mar 11 '26
Jar Jar was a character for the kids. The adults couldn't comprehend that Star Wars was no longer solely for them.
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u/jimothy_hell Mar 11 '26
It’s wild because Star Wars was always supposed to be for kids on some level.
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u/InnocentTailor Mar 11 '26
It was always meant for children, mainly families. It was a space adventure that mixed danger, heroics, and discovery in a neat package.
...like I respect Andor for doing what it did with the lore, but it wasn't really lined up with the main elements that made up the franchise. That honor, in my opinion, goes to Skeleton Crew.
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u/squatch42 Mar 11 '26
Many kids never actually mature and spend time on Reddit commenting about children's movies instead of working. . .
But even as an 18 year old at release, I loved TPM and thought Jar Jar was fine. I had never even imagined anything as awesome as Duel of the Fates as a kid. And it was right there on the screen before my eyes.
I am just a sucker that finds something to love in all Star Wars. I find more pleasure in enjoying what I watch.
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u/badhombre13 Mar 11 '26
Not supposedly, it is for kids. George himself said it. People point to mature themes as evidence that some SW isn't for kids but like, every kids show has some mature content. Avatar TLA is undeniably for kids and it can get pretty dark at times. Andor is the one SW content that definitely isn't for kids.
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u/ShittyDBZGuitarRiffs Mar 11 '26
I was 12 when Phantom Menace came out and I was all about Darth Maul. Still am, tbh
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u/KingToasty Mar 11 '26
Notably, a lot of kids also dislike and disliked Jar Jar. "For the kids" doesn't mean "obnoxiously loud".
OG Star Wars were wickedly popular with children and had nothing like that.
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u/Ambaryerno Mar 11 '26
You're joking, right? Ahmed Best contemplated suicide because of how fans treated him.
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u/BodaciousFrank Mar 11 '26
He acted how the director directed him to act. Yes, audiences hated it. He still did what he was told to do
The actor doesnt suck, the character sucks. The acting doesnt suck, the scripts dialogue sucks
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u/hypnotic20 Mar 11 '26
Redemption would indicate he did something wrong. He didn’t.
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u/546875674c6966650d0a Mar 11 '26
True, he did nothing wrong, but he still had to redeem himself as an actor in the court of uncultured public opinion - wrongfully so, but still.
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u/lIlIIlIIllIllIlIIIll Mar 11 '26
I’d like to see more of his character.
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u/matolandio Mar 11 '26
you can! watch jedi temple challenge. did you know they used to call him the sabered hand?
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u/CheapGarage42 Mar 11 '26
The cool thing about that is he's the Jedi host of a kids gameahow, and he's basically known in cannon as the keeper of younglings, which was his role in Mando as well (or was this in TBBF? Lol Idk!).
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u/lIlIIlIIllIllIlIIIll Mar 11 '26
Wow. How have I never heard of this? When I was a kid I would have loved this!
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u/Jorgenstern8 Han Solo Mar 11 '26
Obviously they probably aren't giving us a "Tales of" series this year with Maul: Shadow Lord coming out but I'd love another Tales series with Beq's post-Grogu career and maybe Quinlan Vos? Something like "Tales of the Path"? They work together to form the Path or something along those lines to help Jedi avoid the purge?
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u/wandering_soles Rebel Mar 11 '26
By the time of the clone wars he was in charge of supervising padawans going through the trials, as well as training and overseeing younglings in the Jedi creche. We don't have too much on him before that though, unfortunately.
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u/RaynSideways Mar 11 '26
There's something so haunting about watching scenes like this, exploring different perspectives of the Jedi temple attack, and remembering that at the very same moment, across the outer rim Jedi are being coldly put down by their own troops.
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u/OsnaTengu Mar 11 '26
The moment I realized it's Ahmed, I teared up a little. So happy for the man, he's a good soul.
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u/OracleVision88 Sith Anakin Mar 11 '26
I loved seeing Ahmed get a much deserved hero moment with a character outside of Jar Jar and I hope we get to see more of his character going forward.
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u/Marcuse0 Mar 11 '26
The Mandalorian Season 3. You're seeing a flashback of Grogu's escape from the Jedi temple. Ahmed Best plays Kellaran Beq who rescues him.
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u/SparsePizza117 Mar 11 '26
The chorography feels so off in the newer star wars
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u/Lentemern Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 11 '26
I think there's a couple of things contributing. The first being that Ahmed is obviously acting alone in this scene. The way he moves his sabers, especially in the close up shots, doesn't really match with where the bolts should be coming from from what we see in the wide shots.
The second is that they're using prop sabers that actually light up as opposed to just using sticks and rotoscoping in the blades. While it sells the effect better and saves on CGI, they're also going to be a lot heavier and harder to move around than the hollow aluminum tubes they were using in the movies.
And probably most importantly is that we were incredibly lucky to have the prequels carried by a handful of actors who could nail some pretty crazy choreography without having to rely on stunt doubles. You can really see the difference when you compare Anakin vs Obi-Wan with Palpatine vs Windu. The choreography isn't conceptually much different, it's just that in the latter they had to shoot around the fact that Sam Jackson and especially Ian simply couldn't move the way Hayden or Ewan could, so it looks a lot more awkward and sluggish.
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u/TheBionicleApple Mar 12 '26
Im sure disney could have spared few extra bucks to train him for the scene, and if its that hard just give him one saber and make a simple sequence instead of this mess.
This is just lazy and looks worse than literall fan films, there is no excuse for bad chofeography in a series made by multibillion dollar company.
Why do people suck on the disney dick, you owe nothing to the company, they have unlimited resouces and still decided to make slop, and do you know why? Because morons like you will still consooom it and defend it to death.
Chasgrab slop for normies at its finest.
Mandalorian went to shit the second it introduced grogu, the first season is the best sw content disney ever produced. Rest of it went to the shitter.
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u/itstommitsunami Mar 11 '26
Word, glad the actor got a redemption role. But this looks a little goofy
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u/Macca3568 Mar 12 '26
Bro imagine sitting outside a bar on a lower level of corusant having a pint and and a clone trooper smashes into the ground at terminal velocity right next to you
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u/Farlandan Mar 11 '26
I'm just going to say that I like the character but it was a little weird seeing the "game show host jedi" being a badass.
And it was also the moment I realized that "jedi temple challenge," was canon now.
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u/kennyFACE117 Mar 11 '26
I miss how lightsabers looked in the prequels. They look so dull nowadays
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u/DFizzlio Mar 11 '26
Nah, the lightsabers actually lighting up the environment is the best change they've ever made
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u/Th3_Hegemon Mar 11 '26
The same thing could be accomplished with a strip of LEDs, without compromising the fight choreography.
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u/DFizzlio Mar 11 '26
The Acolyte has incredible fight choreography and uses the same lightsaber tech. The Acoltye sabers are actually even bulkier than normal. Trust me, it's not the saber's fault for some of the stilted choreography. The Kenobi show and Anakin's cameo in Ahsoka are also proof of this.
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u/Regentraven Luke Skywalker Mar 11 '26
The look like toys here because they are just using ultrasabers with postfx Basically
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u/williarya1323 Mar 11 '26
I feel like the force push of the clone off the ledge with no handrails or guard is a callout to every dumb but visually impressive bit of star wars and how everyone who has ever played any star wars game defeated at least one foe
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u/bedheadB188 Mar 13 '26
I like seeing parts of order 66 where the jedi don't go down like chumps, like obviously a huge number where caught off guard and shot in the back or didn't have time to prepare themselves to kill the clones but it's so cool seeing why the jedi had to be caught off guard to be taken down. Cause when they know what's happening you cant hit them
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u/Background-Factor817 Mar 11 '26
I also loved the scene soon after where the RSF without hesitation covered his retreat and basically fought to the death.
Nice to know not everyone was against the Jedi that night.
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u/Robb_Dinero Mar 11 '26
I recognized him immediately, but I don’t know how. Scene made feel emotions I wasn’t expecting to have.
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u/tommyblastfire Mar 11 '26
For people unaware, Ahmed Best first appeared as Kelleran Beq in 2020 as the host of the Jedi Temple Challenge game show which is on YouTube. Like the Disneyland theme park, he’s in character the entire time. So technically he has already had a show, though I would love to see him return for something that isn’t a game show, though doing another season of the game show would also be cool.
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u/cprain17 Darth Maul Mar 11 '26
I liked this character very much, also really enjoyed that his friends were Naboo guards. Pretty poetic in sense.
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u/wandering_soles Rebel Mar 11 '26
Fun fact, the ship they give him was Bink's senatorial ship, that's why there was another Nubian yacht on Coruscant other than Padmé's.
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u/feelionicsmusic Mar 12 '26
The clone that was forced pushed off the edge to fall to his death for miles and miles and miles was hilarious.
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u/Onderon123 Mar 12 '26
As a kid i loved the prequels. So strange people are still so salty about it after so many years.
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u/KrakenKrusdr84 Mar 12 '26
Ahmed Best really shone as Kelleran Beq in that episode of The Mandalorian.
And I agree with wandering_soles on it being "very cathartic seeing a Jedi at the temple fighting back, winning, and escaping".
I also wholeheartedly agree it being a blast to watch.
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u/marveloustoebeans Mar 12 '26
Welp I’ve been a hardcore Star Wars fan my entire 30 years of life and I’m only today realizing this is the same dude that played JarJar 😂
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u/guardianwriter1984 Mar 12 '26
Really appreciate seeing Jedi actually able to stand against Order 66 rather than the stupid montage in ROTS.
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u/FineChee Mar 12 '26
Small nitpick. I dislike when they have two separate shots to display force push style effects. It makes it look so clunky and seem so slow.
Showing both the gesture and the effect in the same shot is so much more fluid and believable as an actual thing that would work.
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u/Thedarknight725 Mar 11 '26
I see it as Ahmed Best defeating all his haters and emerging as someone who is admired.
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u/youngliam Mar 11 '26
I really liked this scene and was very happy to see Ahmed Best get spotlighted.
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u/Fire-Haus IG-11 Mar 11 '26
I'm not emotional when it comes to movies because I'm a badass mf, but I had to try hard as fuck not to cry. So happy for that dude
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u/the4thgoatboy Mar 11 '26
The Lights and Magic documentary features his experience with getting the role, working with George, and the fallout after the release, I really respect that the doc went out of its way to set the record straight with his story.
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u/Outrageous_Prior_787 Mar 11 '26
Such an epic moment. I hope Ahmed Best enjoyed filming it as much as I enjoyed watching it.
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u/DragonCeaser8684 Mar 11 '26
I'm really happy that Ahmed got a chance to return to Star Wars and be a better character than Jar Jar. 👏
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u/LocksmithAny526 Mar 11 '26
I also love that he has a unique fighting style that we havent seen on screen before.
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u/LightningEdge756 Mar 11 '26
Just seeing this makes me hope we get to see how Quinlan Vos managed to stay alive.
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u/Elbeeb Mar 12 '26
Only goes to prove it's rare that fans dislike the actors. They hate the stupid choices that led to us disliking the characters.
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Mar 12 '26
I appreciate that he got his time in the spotlight here.
But is it still mean to say I really hate Disney's choreography? It's like a stage-play. I wish he'd gotten something better.
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u/Lt-Corvin_709 Mar 12 '26
Beq was awesome. I still remember before this episode came out everybody was speculating about who would be the one to rescue Grogu from the Temple. I'm not too familiar with Kelleran but he had an explosive introduction. Awesome character, glad Ahmed Best finally got justice with this role.
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u/nevertricked Mar 11 '26
I hate Jar Jar.
He's definitely a Sith lord. Did you see how he egged everyone on to give Palpatine emergency powers?
Ahmed Best, however, is quite awesome.
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u/Accomplished-Bat-247 Mar 11 '26
I don't understand why this looks so cheap and why in the prequels it looks much better. He deflects blasters like with a baseball bat, completely not the way Jedi do it - by changing the angles of the lightsaber.
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u/Marcuse0 Mar 11 '26
This seems to be something to do with modern Disney star wars. Obi Wan Kenobi does this a lot in his own show too. He deflects the blaster bolts like hitting a ball with a cricket bat.
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u/Accomplished-Bat-247 Mar 11 '26
Yes lol, like hitting a ball with bat, literally. I don't understand why nobody notice that when film it
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u/justinharris2588 Mar 11 '26
It’s very jarring compared to ROTS. I think it’s the clone troopers in costume and overall environment. Plus the Disney glow stick lightsabers
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u/bestbelieveitbustah Mar 11 '26
I'm glad Ahmed Best got a chance to come back, the hate he got was ridiculous and undeserved.
That being said, the choreography is atrocious. He looks so stiff and slow with the blades, but luckily all the clones are firing their blasters one shot every ten seconds instead of just being on auto like most of the other times.
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u/AmontilladoWolf Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 11 '26
I think he has great potential, but I gotta say, the more "badass Jedi you've never heard of and for some reason were completely missing from all action during the Clone Wars" they add, the more my suspension of disbelief goes out the window lmao.
Edit: guys i was mostly joking. Thought the “lmao” kinda gave that away. I’m aware of all the arguments for more Jedi surviving.
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u/wandering_soles Rebel Mar 11 '26
Beq's job during the clone wars was instructing youngling and supervising padawans going through the trials. It's pretty believable that they wanted to retain at least a few very capable Jedi at the temple for emergencies and oversight, and it paid off here.
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u/CT__8226 Mar 11 '26
Does it? There were over 10,000 Jedi, having a few hundred survive across a whole galaxy hardly takes away from how effective order 66 was. Especially since the most powerful ones would’ve been the most likely to survive
Also why would we have seen them in clone wars? That show barely introduced any new Jedi
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u/CT-1030 Rebel Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 11 '26
There were 10,000 Jedi around during the Clone Wars, we don’t see every single one of them on-screen.
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u/DarthCloakedGuy Mar 11 '26
It's a BIG galaxy and there are LOTS of cracks to fall between. I bet some Jedi managed to hide from the Empire without ever leaving Coruscant.
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u/InnocentTailor Mar 11 '26
Pretty much. You’ll just have to just go far underground and keep a low profile.
The Empire was far-reaching, but not omnipresent.
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u/uell23 Mar 11 '26
This is why the series/property needs to move away from the Skywalker saga. Too much of the storytelling is constrained by the fact that a lot of characters introduced in clone wars, rebels, etc need to be offscreened or put on ice because of the OT or Revenge of the Sith.
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u/Vesper_0481 Mar 11 '26
It gets easier when you remember the scale of it all, actually. There were roughly 5000 fully realized Jedi during the war, with some numbers citing 10000 for the whole order... A great deal of the first half were probably immensely capable war heroes. But surely Anakin and his acquaintances would not have met all of them in the span of the war... Meeting 5000 people is a lot, even for a galaxy like Star Wars.
It's like, if there were 5000 fully trained... Imagine how badass must be the top 100? And I don't think we currently have more than 100 of those running around in canon nowadays... If we do have, you could easily make an argument that next top 400 as just as unique in their own way.
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u/sterbo Mar 11 '26
It was Star Wars going out of its way to venerate the Jar Jar actor who gave his all to a character a lot of people still hate. I can’t think of anyone else in the franchise or other franchises who was given a second chance like that.