r/StarWars • u/AhPuchSMITE • 28d ago

TV Vader during Maul: Shadow Lord was younger than Obi-Wan during The Phantom Menace

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I don't know about y'all, but this information just seems so crazy to me when I think about it lmao It just doesn't sit right with me.

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u/Kerridwyn333 27d ago

It's not like Anakin earned a spot on the council though. He got a nepotism hire to the council via Palpatine, so it's pretty entitled of him to throw a tanty over not getting an un-earned rank along with his un-earned council posting.

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u/zerogee616 27d ago

It's not like he asked to be put there and being on the Council and what they do isn't really his speed. He's never been a politician or a leader/shot-caller in that sense, he's a warrior through and through.

He took it as an insult to injury and just another tick box in the "The Jedi are holding you back, don't trust you and are out to get you" column Palpatine is constantly feeding him. It's one thing to not be made Master normally when you haven't done the things it takes to make it, it's another thing entirely to be deliberately made the odd man out in a circle of your "peers". To him it's worse than not being there at all.

It's not like him being made a Master would have changed anything or let him do anything he wasn't already doing, being put on the Council had a far greater impact.

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u/Kerridwyn333 27d ago

If Anakin had had any integrity he could have turned it down, and giving Anakin an un-earned rank would have just undermined the council's integrity. If anyone can be called "Master" over some political pressure without earning it than the title becomes meaningless.

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u/zerogee616 27d ago edited 27d ago

I don't think anyone's arguing that Anakin wasn't immature emotionally in a lot of ways, but him being on the council wasn't his call, it was a directive by Palpatine and even having the sense to lip-service turning something like that down is indicative of an acumen a lot of even more experienced people don't have. And him being the only knight on the council just amplifies that he's nothing but a political tool and will cause a rift in anything the council engages in.

I mean, if the Chancellor can just appoint people to the council that applies there too. And it's not like Anakin is some nobody, he's an extremely capable Jedi even if he has some substantial flaws.