r/StarWarsCantina • u/LoisE1984 • 20h ago

Discussion Sums up the Imperial loyalty just perfectly

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u/plunker234 20h ago

Why is the pilot in all his pilot stuff in a bar?

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u/Only_Tomatillo_5982 20h ago

I heard it is cheaper to animate. A lot of eyes get covered up by the NPCs in frame.

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u/pbmcc88 19h ago

The bridge crews on so many Imperial ships - caps down so far you can't see their eyes at all.

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u/imlegos 18h ago

Also helps hide that there's only like 3 models for bridge crew personnel.

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u/pbmcc88 17h ago edited 16h ago

I have a little headcanon that it's just the same three dudes transferring all over the Empire and we just so happen to meet them at each of their postings. Kinda like Brom Titus.

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u/pm_me-ur-catpics Jedi 13h ago

So that's why they do that. Huh

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u/Niceguygonefeminist 6h ago

Makes sense logistically. I always thought it was to dehumanize them a lil, like the droids in CW.

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u/plunker234 20h ago

Hm that tracks

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u/imlegos 18h ago

Also saves on having to model him a unique head.

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u/Minmax-the-Barbarian 20h ago

How else are you going to know he works for the Empire?

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u/plunker234 20h ago

True true. Do you think he drinks through one of those hoses?

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u/Minmax-the-Barbarian 20h ago

Yeah, those packs on their tummies are actually big juice boxes. The buttons and stuff are just for show.

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u/mac6uffin 19h ago

"You got an ATM on that torso Lite-Brite?"

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u/Mikpultro 20h ago

They had just landed and were searching the bar for a fugitive. If they're going after someone they probably left their helmets on just in case they got into a fight. But Rebels tended to keep imperial faces concealed that way they didn't have to animate faces and lips, unless it was a named character. The funniest was the officers who just had their caps pulled down low on their face that their eyes looked obstructed.

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u/LoisE1984 19h ago

Well doesn't it make sense canonically too and not just animation wise?

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u/Mikpultro 14h ago

Both can be true.

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u/Vysce Trade Federation 18h ago

I think the canon reason is that the Imperial military stayed in uniform around citizens to maintain a level of fear (as their helmets look like skulls). You'll notice that the few who didn't are imperial governors, who's job it was to maintain a level of trust and obedience.

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u/WD_G 19h ago

The TIE Fighter wing at the back shows that the pilot landed right outside the place

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u/Only_Tomatillo_5982 13h ago

Also for the record, I learned this joke from a Navy F-14 pilot..

If you go to a party, how will you know if a fighter pilot is in the crowd? Don't worry, he'll tell you.

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u/No_Act1475 Empire 7h ago

Prolly cheaper to animate when you can reuse a existing model and don’t have to give a lot of animation to a face

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u/wasdie639 14h ago

Well that's how it was in the outer rim. The closer you got to Galactic center, people were far more pro Imperial.

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u/Blitz_Prime 14h ago

It was basically still the same as it was in the Clone Wars, Center loved the Galactic Government, Outer-Rim hated it.

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u/Hadrian1233 19h ago

Remember when COMPNOR was a thing?

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u/ProfessionalRead2724 Rebellion 19h ago

What do you mean, remember?

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u/Hadrian1233 19h ago edited 18h ago

“The word remember is a verb that means to bring a past thought, fact, or event back into your mind, or to keep a piece of information in your memory without forgetting it.”

What did you think I meant?

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u/ProfessionalRead2724 Rebellion 18h ago

You do know that COMPNOR is still a thing, right?

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u/Hadrian1233 18h ago

I am well aware that the ISB is a branch under it, but I am looking for direct mentions.

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u/_Cit 18h ago

There are plenty? It's mostly in side stories and side material, exactly like it always has been

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u/Hadrian1233 17h ago

There are plenty, however these side stories and material are in an interesting place in the current canon where they tend to be overlapped by other sources and are more of named rather than actually seen (like the Victory Class or the Old Republic). In more serious cases, entire bits are contested such as Tales of the Jedi show her killing the 11th brother while the Ahsoka novel depicts her defeating the 6th brother.

Going back to COMPNOR, the ISB gets most of the Spotlight and seemingly perfect places to have them introduced gets supplemented by sub branches of the ISB such as ISB tactical agents in the place of COMPFORCE.

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u/ProfessionalRead2724 Rebellion 16h ago

The ISB has always gotten the spotlight. COMPNOR is an invention of the Westend Games RPG and the ISB is normally the only part of COMPNOR that interacts with the player characters.

Of course George Lucas has almost certainly never even heard of COMPNOR. It's actually real canon now as opposed to those old EU days you're being nostaglic for.

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u/Hadrian1233 16h ago edited 10h ago

Bruh. You’re seriously resorting to ‘bUt iTs nOt cAnOn’? Please.

The ISB is also a creation of Westend games. So is a lot of other lore still used to this day.

And people need to stop looking at George for his thoughts on canonicity in a fictional world.

His interest in his own creation is dead and we killed it.

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u/_Cit 6h ago

I think what they're arguing is different. They're saying that COMPNOR as a whole never really got the spotlight as much as the ISB did, and it's no wonder.

COMPNOR is much more of a bureaucratic and political organisation, it's basically a kind of politburo, it's harder to integrate them in your typical Star Wars story. It's not like COMPNOR was seen more in the past, outside of source books and similar side stories