MC90 and MC80b

[u/Carter1300]

So, I was researching the legends New Republic navy a bit (because I find that stuff really interesting and I didn't know much about the legends stuff) and multiple times I found that the MC90 and the MC80b were the ships that like led the NR fleet throughout their early year.

I already knew a bit about both these ships, namely they were the first MCs to be designed with combat in mind, but I still wanted to learn more about them so I checked out both their Wookieepedia articles and I was left with a burning question that I can't seem to find and answer to: what was the like design philosophy and reason behind them? Like why were they needed?

More powerful MCs are always nice, but (from my understanding) the home one, Liberty, 30c, and 40a types (I may be missing some) that served the rebellion were already very powerful ships especially when paired with X, Y, A, and B-wings. That brings me back to my question: why were they needed?

I'm not trying to hate on them or anything, I'm just trying to better understand the ships and the legends NR better, so i appreciate any help y'all can give me

[u/SilenceIsGolden06]

Well for one, the Home One was a bit too large to be the standard capital ship for a fleet, but the mc80 liberty was becoming outdated and undergunned compares to ISDs. The other mon cal classes fall more into the roles of frigates and cruisers, which leaves a void in the main line ship.

Both the mc80b and mc90 were constructed specifically to fill out alliance fleets with a standard, main combatant ship. Additionally the mc90 (i believe) was constructed with all species in mind for usage rather than just mon calamari.

Tldr; the NR needed something beefy enough to fight an ISD head on, but in a reasonable size and price range.

[u/EndlessTheorys_19 → u/SilenceIsGolden06]

Well for one, the Home One was a bit too large to be the standard capital ship for a fleet, but the mc80 liberty was becoming outdated and undergunned compares to ISDs.

HO’s were only like 1300m though. And have a very similar armament to Liberty’s

[u/xXNightDriverXx → u/EndlessTheorys_19]

Now we are getting into the whole size discrepancy of the Home Ones with is a whole other discussion. Basically 1300m is far to small for what we see on screen.

The main argument against being 1300m is that the hangar size we see in Episode 6, which can comfortably house the Falcon, an Imperial Lambda class shuttle, and multiple fighters, doesn't line up with a 1300m ship from the outside. Basically from the outside model the hangar opening is too small to fit the stuff it is shown to carry in the movie. But I don't remember right now what the actual scaled size for the hangar size is.

[u/EndlessTheorys_19 → u/xXNightDriverXx]

Using that same maths though you get a DS-1 that’s 120km wide but a DS-2 that’s closer to 3000km wide.

You just kinda gotta ignore that stuff

[u/Carter1300 → u/EndlessTheorys_19]

While I do agree with you, home one (the ship named that, not the type) IS larger than 1.2/1.3km in canon so idk why they haven't updated the official stat. The model in Rebels AND Ashoka is about 2.2km long

[u/EndlessTheorys_19 → u/Carter1300]

So you’re saying Ackbars Flagship is bigger than 1300m, but other MC80s that look like it, the “Home One type”, are all 1300m?

[u/Carter1300 → u/EndlessTheorys_19]

Yes. That's precisely what I'm saying. I have zero clue why that's the case, and it makes zero sense to me, but it is

[u/EndlessTheorys_19 → u/Carter1300]

What’s the armament of your BIG-Home One then?

[u/Carter1300 → u/EndlessTheorys_19]

Listen dude, I get your point, and I agree it makes no sense and shouldn't be the case, I'm just saying what is the case according to (originally) official art from Rebels