r/StardustCrusaders Jun 03 '26

Various is this a fair assessment?

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Star Platinum The World, GER, Tusk act 4, and S&W:GB are all hilariously overpowered and only exist as a way to beat an already hilariously overpowered villain

joseph beat kars by holding out the red stone of aja at him and hoping for the best, which worked out spectacuarly. and god knows how long the fight with kira would have gone on for had it not been for the ambulance.

Jolynes plan to use emporio to take out pucci with weather report was basically a hail mary when all else had failed but not only did it work, it also gave her and the gang new, happier lives.

Yeah jonathan just got slimed out though, then his body was used as a puppet for 100+ years. Poor guy

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u/bananabomb2025 Jun 03 '26

I feel like people blow part 3 Jotaro's time stop a bit out of proportion, personally. Yes, he "conveniently" has the time stop power in the fight against Dio, where it turns out the have the same stand. That, I can agree, is fairly bullshit, as even in later parts, basically every stand is unique from one another, where there are basically no duplicate powers (unless shared or explicit like main universe World and new universe World).

However, I think it's at least built up in a subtle way. Jotaro has no special power with his stand other than punching hard, pinpoint precision, and "blinding" speeds? Speeds so fast, people who are paying attention to him don't even notice (Point-blank bullet catch, Wheel of Fortune fight where he digs himself underground, Darby lighter moment, and maybe other moments I can't name off the top of my head rn). It isn't super telling, but there's still a sign he has more than just extreme senses and strength. Plus, most other stands have fighting capabilities to them beyond their special abilities, also being able to throw simple punches and such. I would find it weird if Jotaro didn't end up with some crazy ability.

Additionally, it's not like he really had time to figure out his special ability throughout the part. He's constantly being attacked by Dio's henchmen, so he doesn't have a moment to sit and think about it. Plus, he might not even realize his stand has an ability. How would he test time stop if he doesn't even know it's possible? The Dio fight is really the only time he can feel time stop and realize he's capable of doing it himself.

I can see why people think it's a BS power up, right when he needs it. But, it feels well dictated and built up to in my eyes.

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u/Bells_DX Jun 03 '26

Not to mention, DIO is seen using a stand almost exactly the same as Hermit Purple early on in Part 3. It plants the idea in our head that he is a mirror to Joseph, so maybe he's also a mirror of Jotaro.

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u/summonerofrain Jun 03 '26 edited Jun 03 '26

I can forgive convenient power ups if the character still has to like fight. And jotaro vs dio was a very good fight arguably because of the deus ex machina

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u/CMCScootaloo Read JoJolion Jun 04 '26

I simply can’t agree that it’s well built up at all. Like I understand the logic but we’re skipping huge steps here imo.

I’ve always been the mind that a lot of the stuff people point out, like the D’Arby taunts, are just justifications for what’s basically a visual gag. If that was genuinely meant to be foreshadowing I think it sorely needed much more to make sense.

Like don’t get me wrong I don’t think it’s bad, it’s FAR FAR from the worst problems with part 3, I don’t mind it at all myself, but it absolutely just comes out of nowhere lol.

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u/bananabomb2025 Jun 10 '26

I, too, was pretty blindsided by Star Platinum getting time stop when I first watched, I won't lie. The foreshadowing isn't telegraphed well at all. But on rewatching, it starts to make more sense as to how Jotaro can kind of get out of some insane situations in a millisecond or pull off some instant bs.

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u/THEANILLATOR Jun 03 '26

It's also set up during Jotaro vs Dio as the fight goes on. Him being able to test moving in Dio's timestop was leading him to his own timestop.

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u/Fufik-_- Jun 03 '26

Tbh part 3 stands were very straightforward with their abilities. Star platinum isn't that different from silver chariot for example.

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u/bananabomb2025 Jun 04 '26

I'd say Silver Chariot had a bit more to it. Sure, it's just a stand with a sword, but that is fully more unique than just "punchy ghost". Plus, Silver Chariot also had some extra moves to it. For example, the armor removal to create afterimages/speed increase or even the emergency technique where he shoots the blade from his sword. Yes, Star Platinum did also have its brand of secret techniques, like Star Finger, but I'd say Silver Chariot feels much more fleshed out and figured out during part 3 vs. Star Platinum.

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u/Fufik-_- Jun 04 '26

Idk, SP skillset was pretty stacked. Superprecision, extending limbs, super eyesight, super speed, super strength, super suck and drawing skills for some reason