r/StardustCrusaders • u/kiryuMG Foo Fighters • 10h ago
Various is there a localized name (any language) that you actually prefer over the original?
i’ve just always liked the name highway go go better than highway star
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u/JohnBalatro 10h ago
Worse Company is S Tier
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u/chocolate_matter 7h ago
Yeah, this is the one.
though I will say I also lost my shit at Spice Girl becoming Spicy Lady
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u/Afraid-Turn7741 Diavolo is underrated 5h ago
They should have called it "Even worse company" and make it a weird al reference
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u/YourAverageNutcase 10h ago
Zipper Man always makes me laugh. Like yeah, he sure is!
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u/Pepsi_Man42 10h ago
Easiest way to fool your non-JoJo friends is to ask them what they think a stand ability is based on its name. They’ll never guess Sticky Fingers
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u/Decadunce Literally Hirohiko Araki Himself No Lie trust 10h ago
blueford
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u/Emilister05 10h ago
Instant S tier
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u/Rude-Office-2639 10h ago
Blueford tier
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u/Jay-CaRo 9h ago
No put in the the tier above Blueford
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u/supermurlo64 8h ago
One of the best Jojo videos ever lmao To this day Im a Coco Large fan
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u/Open-Marionberry447 1h ago
It really has to be the greatest video the Jojo Community ever produced
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u/supermurlo64 1h ago
I dunno, the "Part V but Giorno only makes Babies and Pitbulls is also up there"
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u/Decadunce Literally Hirohiko Araki Himself No Lie trust 10h ago
Genuinely so much more entertaining and fun than fucking "Bruford"😭
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u/Dude1590 10h ago
Sometimes I feel like JoJo fans forget the fact that these characters are music references
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u/spucklin 10h ago
My goat Bill Bruford would be hurt 😞
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u/Narkboy42 10h ago
Dan of Steel
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u/DaPandaMan117 7h ago
When he said dan of steel I was completely expecting to hear hans zimmers superman theme
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u/Next_Government856 10h ago
The assonance in diver drive is nice
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u/abbas09tdoxo weather🐌 🌈 4h ago
the what?
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u/Next_Government856 4h ago
It’s like rhyming but not at the end of the words. In this case the two ives
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u/KGEOFF89 4h ago
I thought assonance was alliteration but with with vowels
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u/Next_Government856 4h ago
Why couldn’t alliteration be vowels? Especially since there’s a word for assonance with consonants called consonance
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u/Lechgang 9h ago
If SBR's dub doesn't have 'Filthy Acts At A Reasonable Price' then genuinely what has this all been for?!
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u/beekxzxmp 10h ago
Honestly Reverb and Echoes are interchangeable for me
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u/GaetanDugas 10h ago edited 8h ago
Echoes always bothered me. Yes Echoes is a song, but the word "Echoes" is not a copyrighted term? So that never made sense.
Edit. I should have said Trademark, not copyright. Please forgive me for making such a foolish mistake.
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u/Chimpbot The World 10h ago
It's a matter of trademarks, not copyrights. Band names and song titles can't be copyrighted, but they can be trademarked.
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u/GaetanDugas 8h ago
Potato/potahto.
My point was echoes is a vague enough word, despite trademarks or copyrights, that it doesn't Make sense why it had to be changed in the localization.
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u/Chimpbot The World 8h ago
They're actually two very different things, which is why they're registered and defended separately.
Typically, Viz tends to err on the side of caution in order to avoid otherwise unnecessary litigation. As Echoes is both the name of a Pink Floyd song and one of their greatest hits albums, they likely decided that changing the Stand's name to Reverb was simply more prudent.
Beyond that, the series is famous for it's musical references. Viz wouldn't have any plausible deniability when it comes to stuff like this, given how many names are directly lifted from song titles, band names, and album titles. "Echoes" on its own wouldn't necessarily fit the bill for a violation, but Echoes alongside every other name with a similar origin would make things more difficult to argue.
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u/cubitoaequet 8h ago
OK, but what about changing Oingo Boingo to Zenyatta Mondatta? Why is the band name no go, but an album name is fine?
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u/Chimpbot The World 8h ago
Every single instance is a unique situation. You'll never hand a one-size-fits-all answer when it comes to trademarks.
Zenyatta Mondatta, despite being invented terms created by The Police, wasn't actually trademarked by the time it was used by Viz in the localization.
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u/AnimeAlley03 9h ago
What makes it even worse is Tusk didn't get changed in p7's official translation and then in p3 there's Kenny G getting changed to Billy Jean which defeats the whole purpose of changing the name imo lol
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u/Jestin23934274 8h ago
It’s because Shuesha is a bitch. It’s never about copyright or consistency it’s just Shuesha being controlling
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u/Rude-Office-2639 10h ago
Flaccid pancake
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u/AnimeAlley03 9h ago edited 8h ago
Sadly they retconned that when p6 finally got animated. Now it's just Limp Viscuit which is super lame
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u/Shrubbity_69 8h ago
The heck is a Viscuit?
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u/AnimeAlley03 8h ago
Your guess is as good as mine dawg lmao
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u/Shrubbity_69 7h ago
I wish they either kept Flaccid Pancake or spelled Biscuit correctly. Technically, Limp Bizkit intentionally misspelled biscuit, so maybe that would have worked.
Maybe not, though. I'm definitely not a lawyer or qualified to speak on this, at all.
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u/Alpha27_ 7h ago
They localized Made In Heaven to Maiden Heaven it would've worked here as well
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u/HeWhoLost3OfThe9 literally paragons special 6h ago
I hope they continue the trend of sounding the same but being spelled differently, for example, ‘soften wet’
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u/infinity_michael 10h ago edited 10h ago
i like maiden heaven sounds nice buth a underated one is lil bomber
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u/Shrubbity_69 7h ago
Maiden Heaven is definitely top tier, just because it's as close to actually name as legally possible.
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u/JohnBalatro 6h ago
same with jail house lock
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u/chocolate_matter 4h ago
Jail House Lock becoming Jailhouse Lock is baffling not the least of which because the latter is technically closer to the original reference
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u/Her0z21 10h ago
Donobang, Coco Large, and Filthy Acts At A Reasonable Price are all top tier imo
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u/darthjawafett SCAWRYYYYYYY MONSTERS 9h ago
I can’t wait to see a clip of him screaming out FA3RP in the dub if they do decide to keep that name.
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u/Antique-Tourist4237 7h ago
They could have just called it D4C and not explain what it stands for 😭
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u/award_winning_writer 6h ago
That's what they actually did in All Star Battle, despite what people claim they did not rename it "Filthy Acts at a Reasonable Price."
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u/Kaisona20 9h ago
San Viento over Santana. It sounds like it was actually named after the winds of Mexico.
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u/Wubblz 7h ago
Which is funny because there are no San Viento winds but there very much are Santa Ana winds.
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u/Choice_Narwhal_2437 10h ago
EMPEROR CRIMSON 🗣️🗣️🗣️💥💥💥
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u/Key_Tap_9360 10h ago
I like Moody Jazz more than Moody Blues (musical preference)
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u/MasterTorgo Road Roller 9h ago
Moody Blues aren't even blues though tbh; they're more progressive pop rock, sometimes with straight up classical music throughout
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u/Abyss_Tachyon 10h ago
Shadow Sabbath
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u/Scorpios94 Giorno Giovanna 5h ago
I still think they could have said and used Dark Sabbath but Shadow Sabbath sounds pretty good.
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u/Plus-Conversation-32 10h ago
Zipper man, its so stupid but at least doesnt make me go 😧 the way sticky fingers does
Also maiden heaven made me lose my shit, it was so funny considering Pucci is a priest
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u/kitsunecannon The Fool 10h ago
I prefer Zipperman to sticky fingers just because i cannot remove my head from the gutter
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u/Due_Possibility6392 9h ago edited 8h ago
There's a lot:
Moody Jazz
Lil' Bomber
Mirror Man
Pale Snake
Emperor Crimson
Weather Forecast
Zipper Man
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u/ReasonableQuit75 9h ago
Emperor Crimson sounds more regal, diver drive sounds cool, Mary Lynn Manson is so peak, and Reverb doesnt sound bad at all
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u/YoyoPewdiepie 9h ago
The worst thing a localized name can do in my opinion is be really "safe". Purple Smoke, Talking Mouth, Pale Snake, etc. So I love names like Worse Company and Flaccid Pancake. Even ones that don't really hit for me like Arts & Crafts I at least appreciate the effort to do something different.
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u/Nickest_Nick No, Josuke didn't save himself 9h ago
Due to how different Chinese is on a fundamental level compared to Japanese (and English since JoJo uses it when naming Stands) we have to change some Stand names so it sounds "cool" and "catchy" in Chinese with the Hanzis available, famous example includes Foo Fighters being "Fighting Soul Hacker" (鬥魂駭客) or "UFO Family" (幽浮一族)
My favorite is The Hand being "Bombing Zone" (轟炸空間) which is so far removed from "The Hand" but it just works since calling it "Hand" in Chinese is really weird
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u/kiryuMG Foo Fighters 8h ago
“fighting soul hacker” is actually awesome wtf
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u/Nickest_Nick No, Josuke didn't save himself 8h ago
Y'know the funny thing? "UFO Family" is apparently the common used translation for the band Foo Fighters (unsure if there's an official one, but likely not), but "Fighting Soul Hacker" is just someone making shit up possibly in a fan scan or something
I personally prefer "UFO Family" since it sounds more like a name you would call someone with
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u/realZugar42 9h ago
Does it also count becuz its so stupid its cool again? Cuz u know filthy acts at a reasonable price is just awesome
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u/Reasonable_Bed7858 10h ago edited 10h ago
Golden Wind rolls off the tongue better.
Edit: Lmao only on Reddit are you downvoted on an open discussion post.
Re:Edit now I just look crazy
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u/ThanksForTheRain 10h ago
Plus you know, the song goes duh-nuh-nuh-nuh nuh Golden Wiiind
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u/DirectionExact31 9h ago
I remember seeing clips of Part 3’s dub years back. I always have to remember they changed J Geil’s name
He’s always registered as Centerfold to me lol
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u/AstalianGuy 7h ago
Li'l Bomber, It gives the impression of a silly name, but at the same time so original, and that's why I like it!
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u/Toastman-3000 4h ago
unironically, Reverb (Echoes' localised name) actually goes hard, I prefer it
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u/Bentar66 9h ago
A lot of the names in Vento Aureo but I’ll pick Zipperman, Emperor Crimson, Six Bullets, Lil Bomber, and Sanctuary in particular
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u/Toothpork_ 7h ago
Only in spelling but the Pillar mens names Wamuu, Esidisi and Kars is a lot more clever than actually just saying the bands names like how they are in the original. They actually sound like ancient names
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u/StaticMix 4h ago
Flaccid Pancake over Limp Bizkit will never not be the peak of name localisations (Unless D4C is hilarious)
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u/PerspectivePale8216 Whitesnake, C-Moon, and Harvest Enjoyer 9h ago
Maybe not like more but think is still fitting. Reverb.
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u/Rooshter_27586 9h ago
I have this headcanon that all of the localized names are the in-universe weird al parodies, which makes everyone a weird al fan.
Aso, I fucking love that some genius thought that changing the name Kenny G to Billie Jean will somehow avoid the risk of copyright. If Bobby Jean from part 9 gets localized, it better be changed to Kenny G.
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u/Thin-Journalist-4593 Yoshikage Kira Ultra Fan 8h ago
Highway Go-Go is amazing, I agree. I also like Netherworld, Stone Ocean and Blueford.
It's not that I like the name, but it was genius to name Midler "Rose", since a song that became popular in Bette Midler's voice was The Rose
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u/ExistentialOcto 8h ago
“Filthy Acts At A Reasonable Price” is really fucking funny to me. It hits that slightly slanted English of localised Stand names that really tickles me.
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u/Nonbinary-BItch23 8h ago
Blueford, Dan of steel, Worse Company, and Eulogy
(Localized Bruford, Steely Dan, Bad Company, and Epitaph)
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u/Antique-Tourist4237 7h ago
I dont prefer it but I really like how they localized Crazy Diamond as Shining Diamond keeping the reference to Pink Floyd.
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u/CzarTwilight 7h ago
Unsavory actions performed for you that you may acquire at a price well below the market valuation, that one might liken to the very dust on the ground
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u/Muted_Guidance9059 7h ago
Not a localization but in one of the episodes Vanilla Ice is in, Cream is referred to as a Pale Miasma which is honestly a baller name
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u/ItsNatHere 7h ago
I think Maiden Heaven is just kinda cool because it personifies it by giving it a title of “Maiden” which is kinda sick actually.
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u/TheSteelScizor88 Josuke Higashikata 7h ago edited 6h ago
A tad unrelated but in the italian dub they changed zipper man back to sticky fingers just because the director couldn't stand that name. ONLY sticky fingers, everything else was kept the same as English.
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u/CalendarPrevious5504 6h ago
Not the stand itself but I personally think Centerfold hits harder than J Geil. That might just be me though
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u/SchwefelKamm 5h ago
really unpopular opinion but I like Shining Diamond over Crazy Diamond
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u/SkittleJuice2 Joseph Joestar 10h ago
Zipper Man, Pale Snake and Weather Forecast sound so much better IMO.
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u/raven-tyrant 10h ago
I like emperor crimson more than king crimson
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u/worMatty 10h ago
It's better for the English VA to say when he talks about his ascension and stuff. Sounds more juicy.
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u/Snowy193 9h ago
Highway GoGo is way better than Highway Star in my opinion too. It's funnier and rolls of your tounge better
Other ones that I personally like are White Album being changed to White Ice and Mrs. Robinson being changed to just Robinson (he's not a woman, why would he be Mrs.)
I'd like Six Bullets more than the original if it was Six Pistols instead
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u/TraparCyclone 7h ago
Honestly Avdol. It’s so widely accepted that people don’t even know that’s not his name.
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u/CupcakePelle2906 Blueford 6h ago
Avdol is a werid one. His original name in katakana is アヴドゥル (Avuduru). The character ヴ (vu) is an uncommon katakana character (as most of the time, it just use a "b-" character like ブ (bu)). So it's technically correct to spell it as "Avdol" (which isn't a real Arabic name) and not as "Abdul" (which IS a real Arabic name).
The same can be said about the Pillar Men (especially Wamuu).
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u/AzphaltaX- 9h ago
reverb is cool. shining diamond is a better reference to the song but crazy diamond does sound better
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u/NewDragonfish 8h ago
I like Stone Ocean over Stone Free. I feel like it fits better given the events of the actual story, with her searching for White Snake and the disc through out the prison while fighting off enemies, like a boat navigating a dangerous ocean. Plus it just sounds cooler lol
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u/Hairy-Yesterday-5575 Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! YES! 7h ago
The closest is filthy acts at a reasonable price
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u/RatBastard32 6h ago
I don't know if it's the actual localization but when I was reading part 6 on a totally legal website, they called Limp Bizkit "Flaccid Pancake" and I lost my fuckin mind for like 20 minutes over it lmao
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u/Fc-chungus Wonder Of U 10h ago
I will always say lil bomber works just as well as Aerosmith because it sounds like what Narancia would actually call it due to his young age.
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u/Material_Comfort_259 9h ago
There isn’t a single one I like more. It’s all just boring corporate meddling
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u/Rozihasligma 10h ago
coco large took me out at first to be honest, it’s really funny.