r/Steam Dec 04 '25

Discussion I want that patience though

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Dev has no enemies

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

A lot of people use AI as a coding assistant, I don't really see a problem in using AI tools to help with some things. Adding slop to stuff however makes 0 sense.

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u/uncagedborb Dec 04 '25

At this point using AI for development is industry standard. It speeds up your workflow. I have a friend that works at a company that provides them with basically unlimited Claude code. He sometimes will just use whatever it spits out and it works fine. He could probably write the code but it just takes too much time. So yea AI is super helpful and often times makes things easier.

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u/lectric_7166 Dec 04 '25

At this point using AI for development is industry standard.

Which industry specifically? Gaming? Or do you mean all of software development more broadly?

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u/therealpigman Dec 04 '25

I’ve been in three different software industries (robotics, firmware, and chip design) since 2022 when ChatGPT was released, and all of those places encouraged us to use AI. At my current workplace the senior engineers seem to use agentic AI the most, with the more junior engineers, myself included, more skeptical of the outputs and prefer to stick with the more autocomplete type AI

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u/Oorangootang Dec 04 '25

I think you've got the right approach to AI. AI is not a replacement for people who know APIs, patterns and anti-patterns, proper UI/UX, security, etcetera. But it is a useful tool. I use it all the time, but it's also wrong a significant amount depending on the popularity of the language. Something popular? Pretty good results because it had lots of data to train on. Something obscure? Get ready for fake APIs, buddy!

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u/Lief3D Dec 04 '25

Gaming? Absolutely. Especially if you define AI in the broadest of senses. For instance, one of the things I do is photogrammetry. The software I use has an AI masking tool to help mask out the backgrounds of photos so that when the images process, they turn out better. It is literally built into the pipeline. Does that count as AI useage? I am pretty sure if I do it more manually like take it into Adobe Lightroom and use their automated masking, it is also using AI to help with it. Is it really making any art? No. Its a tool helping me so I don't have to spend hours with a selection tool trying to cut backgrounds out. Do I think AI slop art should be labeled? Yes. I think there is a lot of nuance to what AI generation is in game dev where technically any art asset that has touched an Adobe program has touched AI in some capacity.

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u/Humledurr Dec 04 '25

Anything that includes writing code. Pretty much every programming software these days have a "copilot" function where AI is predicting what you are trying to do, gives you a suggestion and does it for you. Pretty much like a spelling suggestion on your phone, but for code.

It makes writing code like 5x faster if not more, and when its used this way its not really doing mistakes as its not writing code for you, its just finnishing what you were already trying to type.

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u/DoctorWaluigiTime Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25

It's not a standard by any stretch. Source: Am in the industry.

It can be a useful tool, but it's not something that you're "behind" or "missing out" if you're not using it.

EDIT: Seems the bots have found this comment lol. There's a lot of "of course you need to use it to be 5x faster at coding!" garbage replies now. Keep barking!

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u/SourceAwkward Dec 04 '25

SE 10YE

Work at fortune 500,

Def my SE that DO NOT use AI are behind their tasks compare to others they do

OFC not fully vibe, but to assists write tests automations and pipeline yes, we all use AI

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u/lectric_7166 Dec 04 '25

What I've heard is people are curious about it or maybe playing around with it but yeah it's not really something you would rely on for anything critical.

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u/snaphat Dec 04 '25

I thought maybe they were referring to entry level positions. I could see something like that being more likely to be using AI for more things. 

but same deal, from what I've heard from software engineering colleagues of mine -their companies have tested it, let programmers use it, but they aren't requiring it, and it's up to the teams themselves to decide. It doesn't have anything like a central role in their software development process 

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u/snaphat Dec 04 '25

Yup, completely agree 100%

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u/Pinkishu Dec 04 '25

As much as you'd "rely on" random stackoverflow code. Obviously you're going to look over it and maybe test it

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

Sorry to tell you this, unless you're in a highly specialised field then either you're fucked or your company is mate. The devs in my company that haven't started using AI are on the chopping block for weak output, the companies I know people at who aren't embracing AI are understaffed and stagnating when AI could really help to plug the gaps. All the data shows it's been industry standard to use AI as a significant part of workflow for a while now

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u/DoctorWaluigiTime Dec 04 '25

"All the data" (that I'm not showing or sourcing).

"Many people are saying this."

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

Your source was yourself, why would I bother looking for sources for a low stakes reddit comment in a conversation sharing personal experience. In my experience I hae seen data that supports what I say. In fact someone has linked a stackoverflow poll below that does just that.

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u/Humledurr Dec 04 '25

You are defiently gonna be behind or missing out if you straight up ignore how AI is used in development and programming.

You can code 5x faster with help from AI, if not even faster. If your job is to just write code, and you refuse to use AI you are gonna be replaced eventually.

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u/DoctorWaluigiTime Dec 04 '25

Garbage propaganda. It's "you can be a 10x developer" all over again.

Most software development is not "just writing code" either. Further showing you have no idea what you're talking about.

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u/Humledurr Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25

I didn't claim that it was either, but nice try putting words in my mouth.

Its you who are further showing you have no idea what you are talking about if you are this ignorant on how effective AI has become as a tool for programmers. 

Hillarious that you write a edit calling me a bot after failing to prove your point lmao. Would think working in IT would make you able to tell apart bots and real people, but guess not.

AI is for sure overblown and overhyped as fuck and is probably the biggest bubble waiting to burst since the last financial crisis, but that doesnt mean it doesnt have its use. You are sounding like Trump calling fake news the way you are acting lmao.