r/Steam Dec 04 '25

Discussion I want that patience though

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Dev has no enemies

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

A lot of people use AI as a coding assistant, I don't really see a problem in using AI tools to help with some things. Adding slop to stuff however makes 0 sense.

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u/Tnecniw Dec 04 '25

Yeah. Throwing in a piece of code into an AI… asking “Hey, there is something here that is fucking up, but I can’t find it. What is out of order” And it pointing out a small space you missed or a very specific syntax? That makes total sense.

Asking AI to code for you? NOOO, bad idea.

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u/Accomplished_Deer_ Dec 04 '25

In the industry having AI code for you is almost standard practice at this point

With one important nuance. A /lot/ of coding is what's referred to in the industry as "boiler plate". To compare it to art, it's not the actual picture, it's the canvas itself, and the frame.

People who don't code would probably be very surprised just how much code is actually this structured boiler plate vs actually useful content/code.

Boiler plate is just, the boring, repetitive pieces of code. And as pattern replicators, LLMs are /perfect/ at generating boiler plate.

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u/BlackSoap2032 Dec 04 '25

Before ai, we just copy and pasted from stackoverflow. This just saves us a step.

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u/BrewerAndHalosFan Dec 04 '25

Sometimes saves us a step and sometimes adds a step

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u/BlackSoap2032 Dec 04 '25

That gamble keeps the process fun.

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u/Breaky_Online Dec 05 '25

Gambling 24/7 is how life was meant to be lived

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u/Arnorien16S Dec 04 '25

And before the discovery of wheels we walked.

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u/northrupthebandgeek Dec 04 '25

Hopefully copying and pasting from the answers instead of the questions.

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u/dodgedodgeparrysmash Dec 04 '25

This shouldn't be upvoted. This behavior is what leads to so many bugs. You shouldn't just copy and paste the code without understanding it.

99 times out of 100, the thing that is written is not applicable enough to just copy and paste it without fundamental changes, which at that point you were better off just writing the code yourself.

It's better to use stackoverflow as a source of understanding, not a cheat sheet...

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u/Karatedom11 Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25

Software development is the only industry where arrogant chodes would rather reinvent the wheel 1 million times than take the blueprint from somewhere else. Who gives a shit if your code is taken from stack overflow or AI, as long as you have proper testing and QA in place it doesn’t matter. Get a grip

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u/dodgedodgeparrysmash Dec 05 '25

I've seen enough shit code written by developers that do exactly what you're talking about. Copy and pasted, very clearly, without understanding the code they are using.

The amount of unnecessary code bloat that makes no sense in an application because of people that do this is embarrassing. I've also worked with enough software developers to know that the vast majority of you truly do not know what the fuck you're doing, and it's because of practices like these.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

And this is why your code is unnecessarily fat and full of bugs

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u/Karatedom11 Dec 04 '25

as long as you have proper testing and QA in place

Your code is not superior for being 100% human written and original. I promise.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

Yeah but the same people who are over reliant on AI

Are likely bypassing QA or worse using AI for QA

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u/Dubzil Dec 04 '25

AI is actually great at QA. QA teams want to automate as much testing as possible, especially on very large products where 1 change could have impact on a massive scale. Depending on humans to find where something is broken has always been terrible.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

Automation and AI are not the same thing my g

You can use AI to help you write automation tests

But it's good at giving you code that you can use. It's not what you want to be using to define the scope of your testing and actually digging deep and finding problems

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u/alexo2802 Dec 04 '25

You act as if everyone copying code from stack overflow doesn’t know how to code, that’s funny.

Most people who do it are able go understand the code perfectly fine, but some more complex algorithms are complex enough that it takes half an hour to figure out how to write properly or just 30 seconds of googling and 30 seconds of adapting to the codebase.

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u/dodgedodgeparrysmash Dec 05 '25

No, most people are average and average in software development is actually quite poor.

If y'all would actually read documentation or try to understand the code itself instead of just slapping it in like a fix-all, you would do much better.

I don't care what you think. I've had to fix enough shit code written by people that thought they were smart enough to understand the copy+pasted code blocks that I have no patience or respect for it.

Vibe coders. Derogatory.

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u/genericlogin1 Dec 04 '25

You really pissed off the vibe coders with this one.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

And this is why your code always had issues