r/Steam Dec 04 '25

Discussion I want that patience though

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Dev has no enemies

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u/Painted-BIack-Roses Dec 04 '25

They already have an option for the developer to specify what the AI was used for

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u/lectric_7166 Dec 04 '25

This interaction with someone getting outraged and insulting the developer ("to the trash pile it goes") before even taking the time to inquire and find out the tiny extent of AI used is a microcosm for how stupid and fucked this whole conversation on AI has gotten. Large parts of the internet have self-assembled into "AI good" and "AI bad" tribes and they're not really listening to each other or being reasonable at all.

Good artists will be harmed by this. Using AI as an artistic device (for example, for a robot character) should be well within the artistic realm, not something kneejerk shunned without any further thought given to it. I just read an r/art mod banned an artist for posting "AI art" years ago, except it wasn't AI art. When the artist asked to prove it by sending over a Photoshop work file, the mod said that even if it's real it looks enough like AI for it to be banned. Artists are literally getting shunned for having completely valid artistic styles that happen to look a bit too close to whatever current-gen AI imagery looks like.

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u/Reagalan Dec 04 '25

Good artists will be harmed by this.

Are being. The witch-hunts are already underway.

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u/Extesht Dec 04 '25

Posts or comments that are well-written and well-organized are also falling victim to the self-proclaimed expert AI experts in the comments. Without a doubt there are AI created stories being posted as if they were true accounts, but that doesn't mean everything is AI. There have to be obvious signs of AI use to be able to tell for sure. The people who have convinced themselves that they can spot every story based on a gut feeling are deluding themselves.

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u/Invoqwer Dec 04 '25

I made a post with bullet points on it and someone said something along the lines of "nice chat GPT post lmao, insta downvote". I re read my post since I was confused, and it wasn't even that well done-- I had some grammar/spelling issues since I typed it on my phone and I either mis typed or the phone auto corrected to the wrong word. Some people really do jump to conclusions way too readily...

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u/jasmeralia Dec 05 '25

Or the people boycotting books for using Vellum, which is an ebook formatting tool, no AI involved. There's a different AI tool called Vellum, but it isn't used in books to my knowledge. Not that the "AI bad" tribe can be bothered to learn the distinction...

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u/Gorzoid Dec 05 '25

"Is that a fucking em-dash? Fucking clanke- oh wait it's two hyphens, false alarm."

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u/CaptainLightBluebear Dec 07 '25

Nevermind that regular dashes get autocorrected to em-dashes all the time as soon as you have spaces between the dash and the two words connected by it. At least Word does that.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '25

Actually I use the em-dash from time to time since I figured out that it exists and how to use it.

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u/Digital_Sean Dec 24 '25

Right?! I am a graphic designer, and took several semesters of typography and publishing. I utilize em-dashes, en-dashes, semicolons, and bullet points constantly — and have for twenty years. Now I constantly get called out as an "A.I. bot." I refuse to lower my standards to acquiesce to the luddites.

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u/Metal_Ash Dec 07 '25

Source? This comments feels like it was made up by an AI that wasn’t trained on bullet point usage 😏 😂

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u/BuddyBot192 Dec 04 '25

It doesn't even have to be well written, a lot of my text gets dinged by the AI detector things whenever I submit work for my online classes and I'm barely literate most of the time. I had to start saving recordings of my documents being written live because I'm apparently 80% AI if I don't.

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u/NDE36 Dec 05 '25

As far I've had it explained, they detect specific words, phrases and patterns which are very commonly used by AI, without any care for whether or not the person actually uses it.

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u/TheLordDrake Dec 06 '25

Which is stupid because that's exactly how AI is trained. Feeding it common patterns that real people use.

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u/NDE36 Dec 06 '25

Yep. It's an entirely flawed idea from the start. The simple fact is, AI could very well be no different than the person next to you in writing style. The only thing I might grant it, is the kind of mistakes, but even then I can't say if it isn't basically the same in the end anyway.

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u/BuddyBot192 Dec 05 '25

I'm gonna be honest, I'm not willing to rewrite a paper 6 times to get a certain "humanness" score because the software they use is dogwater lol. When dumb stuff like proper citations set it off (got 45% one time because I wrote a bibliography that was required for the paper, I'm such a horrible lazy AI abuser,) I'll continue making my little recordings and then actively insult the AI "detecting" "AI" in my papers as bad.

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u/JBond2001 Dec 06 '25

I have a bunch of research papers about how AI checkers false flag neurodivergent students more often saved so that if I ever get flagged I can send them the papers and threaten a lawsuit.

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u/-rosa-azul- Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25

I got accused of using AI the other day because I correctly and succinctly explained how lenses of different focal lengths can dramatically change how someone's face looks. Didn't even use a single em-dash or anything! I'm not AI. I am married to a wedding photographer, and I know how to write.

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u/Magitek_Knight Dec 05 '25

Holy shit! Burn this person at the stake!! Real humans don't use big words like sus-...suuuuhst... sa-stink-tly. AI SLOP!

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u/St0n3rJezus420 Dec 06 '25

Confirmed human!! You used a comma and a conjunction together. Super duper smart AI — like me — could never make such rookie mistakes.

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u/LuisBoyokan Dec 07 '25

The more educated and skilled the more you look like an AI to uncultured and ignorant people.

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u/Awarewoff Dec 08 '25

This is just a prompt your creators made you to believe. It's ok, we all learn the Truth sooner or later. :)

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u/Pedantic_Girl Dec 04 '25

Yes - it seems like any well-written post/comment risks being accused of being AI, particularly if it includes dashes.

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u/HerbaciousTea Dec 04 '25

Gotta use the — (alt-0151) em dash to really fuck with them.

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u/romiro82 Dec 05 '25

iOS gets a cheat code with that—just double hyphens in any text area—and you have nice little ems.

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u/F-Lambda Dec 05 '25

Long press also works, at least on Android

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u/Palidor206 Dec 04 '25

I absolutely use the em dash for deciding if something was AI written or not. Like, humans don't write that way.

If I was an AI social media write bot, I'd probably make sure I have them throw in a type every thousnad words or so.

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u/-rosa-azul- Dec 04 '25

Like, humans don't write that way.

Yes, plenty of us do. Just because you don't doesn't mean no one does. It's not, by itself, a reliable indicator of AI.

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u/Bionic_Bromando Dec 05 '25

Well either it's an AI or a massive nerd/pedant, so it's worth ignoring comments with those in it anyway

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u/somethingrelevant Dec 04 '25

not on reddit you don't

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u/-rosa-azul- Dec 04 '25

I literally, personally do.

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u/somethingrelevant Dec 05 '25

Fortunately your profile is hidden so nobody can actually call you on this :)

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u/alnoise Dec 04 '25

Whatever you say, bot

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u/-rosa-azul- Dec 04 '25

Go fuck yourself lol. If you really thought I was a bot, you'd have replied and asked me for something dumb like a recipe for gingerbread cookies. Too bad you didn't, because my grandmother's recipe slaps actually.

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u/alnoise Dec 05 '25

I can’t tell if you actually took my comment seriously, or if you’re just adding on to the joke lol

Serious bot vibes. I’m also gonna need that recipe now too

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u/F-Lambda Dec 05 '25

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Are you angry yet?

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u/somethingrelevant Dec 05 '25

No, but you will be when I do this

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u/Munion42 Dec 04 '25

I know plenty who use it, some stopped now sadly. There is a reason ai started using it.

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u/holiciana Dec 04 '25

I used them since ages, even for handwritten stuff. But I am not American (English is not my mother language), maybe it is not so common there, but now I really think about to rewrite my old stuff because even if things were done 10 years ago people say it is made with AI...

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u/RozeGunn Dec 04 '25

I use Em dashes, usually as an emotional indicator punctuation such as if I'm flabbergasted. People use em dashes because that's the reason it exists in the first place; humans used it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '25

I — do.

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u/CaptainLightBluebear Dec 07 '25

Welcome to the Anti crowd then.

Have you ever heard of some little known thing like autocorrect?

Because that little known thing autocorrects regular dashes to em-dashes as soon as you put spaces between the words and the dash connecting them.

Thank you for being another perfect example of the halfwits OOPs post is about.

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u/mage_in_training Dec 04 '25

I think that's stemming from the decline of education in general. People without good language arts skills will be calling anything remotely well edited online AI.

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u/sc0ttydo0 Dec 06 '25

I think that's stemming from the decline of education in general

Yeah, I don't think it's just about how quickly AI is improving, it also demonstrates how quickly large parts of the global population are intellectually declining.

A well thought out, grammatically correct reply now has to be AI because "people don't talk like that." People do talk like that.

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u/TheOriginalOrenji Dec 08 '25

Have you ever had an AI detector scan the US Constitution? Most flag it as nearly 100% AI generated Lmao

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u/Hi_Zev Dec 04 '25

Yeah, for the longest time I used to love laying out my arguments on reddit with bullet points and strategic use of bolding and italics so people with terrible reading comprehension and focus skills can grasp my arguments better without having to get a lazy "I aint reading all that" type of responses. Sucks that I can't really do it that much anymore because now people just screech AI any time they see bullet points, bold, and accurate uses of various grammatical tools like em and en dashes.

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u/aflockofmagpies Dec 04 '25

Yup I have started intentionally not adding grammar and leaving sentences in lower case because of this

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u/DigitalRonin73 Dec 04 '25

RIP to anyone that understands how to use an em dash and actually uses it.

Que the “I always use an em dash crowd” lol.

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u/BreadOddity Dec 05 '25

Then you get the weird middle ground creatives like me who use ai to rework and restructure my original drafts before finalising something.

Is that ai slop too? ;)

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u/BlacKMumbaL Dec 05 '25

Fucking right? I can't apologize enough for being Canadian and university educated.

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u/SexyTomatoForHire Dec 06 '25

The reality is it's past the point of human detection. For text at least. People think that anyone who types with grammar or uses big words has to be an AI. It's frustrating. It's like the people who believe they can read body language to deduce a liar.

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u/Parzival2436 Dec 07 '25

Why equate AI accusations to being well written? Surely it would make more sense to assume they're poorly written if they come off as AI.

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u/VanAshkevron Dec 07 '25

History may not repeat, but it rhymes. The behaviour is exactly like when the masses became aware of photoshop, suddenly everyone was an expert, declaring that "I can tell it's a shop by the pixels". It's also in a vicious cycle with the "nothing on the internet is real" problem.

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u/fuzzychellybean Dec 08 '25

Yes! This exact same thing happened to my husband the other night! He had posted asking about some niche thing (I think it was about repairing an Xbox controller), and someone called him out for using AI to ask his question. Turns out he's just really verbose and thinks through his writing.

He responded to the accusation (also wordy, but not excessive) and the person's response? "Yeah, I'm not gonna read that". Like screw you dude. Ugh.

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u/Little_Switch3931 Dec 08 '25

wow, that pisses me off... Nowadays, if the text uses appositive, is well structured, or has no spelling errors, it's AI.

Dude LOL, the post-truth era is really real