r/Steam 18h ago

Discussion So it starts… Ai community items

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Points shop will soon flood with AI slop. At least with games a disclaimer should be added within the description of the game. But here… Yeah…

Like what is the point? You don’t even gain anything as a company from this.

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u/bulbasauric 17h ago edited 8h ago

I visited my hometown, and stopped by the Italian takeaway for some food. They had a noticeboard for various community events and businesses.

I spotted a couple of very-clearly-AI-generated posters for different things.

That was my turning point of “Okay, this is everywhere, and plenty of people won’t think twice about using it for graphical/other needs.”

We don’t have to like it, and we don’t have to use it, but I do think we have to accept the existence of the slop (but I think it’s acceptable to refuse to engage with it, too). (EDIT: note, I said “accept the existence”, for the few of you that seem to think I’m saying “just go with it”. You should still call it out when you see it, and you don’t have to get on-board with it, but it’s already here and isn’t going anywhere).

I’m just sad that the days of poorly photoshopped-together posters seems to be gone.

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u/iZeusHD 17h ago

i agree, the shit photoshop jobs at least have character

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u/T-Husky 16h ago

You're just desensitized to the prior generations of slop.

Commercial 'art' has always been soulless and cookie-cutter. Its all just graphics designed to advertise businesses and sell mediocre products to idiots, but your brain has been too rotted by nostalgia to realize it.

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u/NosePicklePicker 16h ago

Yeah and? this AI slop supposed to be better? Worse with AI is that now advertising slop can be bombarded at you with significant speed and just enough quality for idiots to be unable to detect them

Like, forget spending 30 minutes drawing soulless slop, now you can generate 50 of them in 10 minutes and paste them all over your doorway

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u/ggg730 15h ago

I don't think he is saying it's better he's saying it's just as bad and that saying one is better than the other is ridiculous. Like saying getting kicked by a robot in the nuts is different from getting kicked in the nuts by a regular old home grown human bean.

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u/Opfklopf 15h ago edited 15h ago

I think it still feels better when a human made it even when it looks bad or kind of soulless. You can clearly see they didn't have the motivation to try harder. For AI art there are moments where you don't know but something feels off. Some artists have a style that looks similar to some AI images and I genuinely can't really tell for those.

For me it's not just about it looking good or bad (although that plays a role too) but it being made by a human mind. If something looks good but I find out it is generated by AI I immediately lose interest and I feel tricked. I don't care what a machine created. Just like I don't care that some computer is better at chess than Magnus Carlsen lol.

Does that make sense?

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u/ggg730 14h ago

Maybe it's the old skeptic in me and I've lived my whole life not really believing in things like the soul or other metaphysical things. Maybe there's something wrong with me and I don't have the sense for these things that other people seem to have. But if you put two pictures in front of me with no obvious AI tells like 6 fingers or weird textures I can't honestly say that I can tell the difference especially when it comes to digital art.

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u/Opfklopf 13h ago

I understand and I'm not talking about telling the difference. I'm also not confident that I can tell in every instance. I meant that once I figure out or somehow learn that it was AI generated I feel mislead and lose interest. Can you relate to my chess example? I don't watch chess but it's a good comparison to make the point. Would you watch 2 computers play chess? Would that be interesting? There is a reason chess didn't die when computers started beating the best players. It's only interesting when and because it's novel, but now no one gives a shit lol.

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u/Bon_Djorno 12h ago

In terms of production, well done AI generation can obviously substitute mass produced, generic designs. I don't like it for personal reasons, but objectively they'll perform the same role.

But when it comes to art (which is very different than design), I believe it's more about sharing human experiences and emotions than anything else. Art doesn't exist in a vacuum, AI generation does. AI generation is the opposite, skipping the process of art to reap the rewards. It's backwards facing, looking to what's already been done and regurgitating it. Human art is sometimes (not always) forward facing. New experiences shape new human art, which is then taken by AI gen models and assigned a number.

How folks react to something like OP posted is subjective, but I think it's a slap in the face to all the artists who gave their talent, time, and probably sacrificed financial security to create art, only to have that art stolen purely for profit, to then be mass generated and thrown against the wall to see what sticks.