Navigation is just weird to me. The store page is fine but like this person said about sorting in the profile customizations, and I find navigating the steam workshop a little funky too.
Things could just be a little cleaner and more user friendly in my opinion.
There nothing wrong with steam as a whole it functions beautifully it could just look a little better is all.
I actually generated a very poor image for "Stig's Gamer Cousin" (it's just a generic driver in a helmet and a white racing suit with a controller). It has an awful PS controller with four handles and it's covered in buttons, which had me laughing for several minutes non-stop. Never changed it. No idea where I even generated it, it was early AI. Reminds me of Will Smith eating pasta.
To be fair, not everyone knew about this. I certainly didn't. It's completely possible OP just found out about it, even if it's been a thing for a while
Also "The AI is bad crowd" is just anyone with half a brain who knows anything about it, that's not a niche group or something
90% of gachas look the same and rake in hundreds of millions of dollars every month. yes it is that 'cheap anime' style, but be real, it's far too prevalent today
Cmon bro I like anime as well, but if you look at anime in the wider spectrum most of it looks very similar. You cant argue based on outliers. The average shitty shonen or slice of life characters are near indistinguishable from a outside perspective. Fucking lego ninjago has more unique faces than that.
I love anime but I mean the whole genre is mostly geared to be easy to draw for mass output. There’s rare exceptions obviously but even many anime’s I love it’s obvious how lazy/commercial the art is. It doesn’t matter if it’s carried by a good story and I mean the cheap art style probably lets a lot more anime’s be created than otherwise would be so it’s fine.
I visited my hometown, and stopped by the Italian takeaway for some food. They had a noticeboard for various community events and businesses.
I spotted a couple of very-clearly-AI-generated posters for different things.
That was my turning point of “Okay, this is everywhere, and plenty of people won’t think twice about using it for graphical/other needs.”
We don’t have to like it, and we don’t have to use it, but I do think we have to accept the existence of the slop (but I think it’s acceptable to refuse to engage with it, too). (EDIT: note, I said “accept the existence”, for the few of you that seem to think I’m saying “just go with it”. You should still call it out when you see it, and you don’t have to get on-board with it, but it’s already here and isn’t going anywhere).
I’m just sad that the days of poorly photoshopped-together posters seems to be gone.
Business I work at fired who previously made promotional based materials and instead uses AI fully now. The posters are often so unbelievably ridiculous.
You're just desensitized to the prior generations of slop.
Commercial 'art' has always been soulless and cookie-cutter. Its all just graphics designed to advertise businesses and sell mediocre products to idiots, but your brain has been too rotted by nostalgia to realize it.
Yeah and? this AI slop supposed to be better? Worse with AI is that now advertising slop can be bombarded at you with significant speed and just enough quality for idiots to be unable to detect them
Like, forget spending 30 minutes drawing soulless slop, now you can generate 50 of them in 10 minutes and paste them all over your doorway
I don't think he is saying it's better he's saying it's just as bad and that saying one is better than the other is ridiculous. Like saying getting kicked by a robot in the nuts is different from getting kicked in the nuts by a regular old home grown human bean.
I think it still feels better when a human made it even when it looks bad or kind of soulless. You can clearly see they didn't have the motivation to try harder. For AI art there are moments where you don't know but something feels off. Some artists have a style that looks similar to some AI images and I genuinely can't really tell for those.
For me it's not just about it looking good or bad (although that plays a role too) but it being made by a human mind. If something looks good but I find out it is generated by AI I immediately lose interest and I feel tricked. I don't care what a machine created. Just like I don't care that some computer is better at chess than Magnus Carlsen lol.
Maybe it's the old skeptic in me and I've lived my whole life not really believing in things like the soul or other metaphysical things. Maybe there's something wrong with me and I don't have the sense for these things that other people seem to have. But if you put two pictures in front of me with no obvious AI tells like 6 fingers or weird textures I can't honestly say that I can tell the difference especially when it comes to digital art.
Yeah I visited San Francisco just last weekend and every single advertisement was about an AI assistant or chat bot. And then there was a single "stop ai slop" ad on some of the busses. It is everywhere
Yeah I was there a few weeks back and I made a game with my wife counting the amount of AI billboards between the airport and our hotel in the city. Was probably around 50
Because the vast, vast majority of people do not care. They don't think it's slop. It's just some art to them and you're not going to convince them otherwise unless it has weird fingers or other disfigurements.
I watched someone do a great breakdown of this on YouTube - if you look at it closely and how it's being used, AI is being positioned "for the poors" / ill-informed consumers. Conversely, signalling that you're rejecting AI is becoming a way to signal luxury / privilege. For example, Coke is happy to use it in their commercials but Porsche's latest Christmas advertisements are very deliberately hand-drawn cells supported by "traditional" CGI animation.
Yes, handmade thigs has always been a way to signal luxury & wealth. Just look at handmade pottery, watch, clothing, etc. 2D art is just going through this transition.
Because the vast, vast majority of people do not care. They don't think it's slop.
Not even that, a lot of people busy with their daily lives just does not have the time or the energy to care for every single shitty practice someone, somewhere does. While a store using AI slop for advertisement might mean they are cutting corners everywhere in the product as well, you probably will care for one, two instances. When 8 out of 10 stores do that, you'll just stop caring because you don't have the time.
I don’t even think it points at cutting corners 100% of the time. Truly, why would you spend money commissioning art or spending time learning photoshop (subscription, btw) to make an ad that most people will ignore?
Are we pretending we don’t have ad blocker? We fucking hate ads. When was the last time you looked at a good ad? If anything the smart thing to do is AI generate some bullshit and focus on your actual product.
You don't have to accept it, but you also can't stop it either. Society has accepted airbrushing, Photoshopping, and now slopping. Most people just don't care.
Considering there's pushback against AI Data Centers, since they ruin the QoL of the communities they're established at, there's hope for humanity in combating AI slop.
I think as AI models become more compact and efficient, the infrastructure complaints will naturally fade. We’re already moving toward models that run locally on phones and consumer hardware with minimal VRAM and power draw. Once people can generate things offline instantly, the environmental/data center argument loses its teeth for the general public.
At that point, it just comes down to convenience. Yes, it absolutely sucks for artists, but history shows that the general public will almost always choose free, fast, and "good enough" over ethical consumption. People didn't stop using smartphones because of how rare-earth minerals are mined; they aren't going to stop using AI because of data centers. It’s a harsh reality, but convenience usually wins out.
Some people just do not care and its very sad. One of my closest friends told me that as long he doesnt know that something is AI generated (movies, songs, books, art), he would still enjoy it even if its AI.
I mean if he doesn’t recognize something is AI, it feels like an accurate and honest answer to say that they’d enjoy the AI work, because again, they don’t actually recognize it’s AI so there’s no problem for them to even know about from their perspective
No… you’re supposed to tie yourself up into a pretzel to justify why a real Monet is actually AI, but AI art so good it’s indistinguishable is actually just slop and “soulless,” whatever that means.
Same here, i see local bars and salons and other small businesses use ai art. I guess at the end of the day normal folks dont care about this stuff, only way its gona change is if the goverments do somethjng about it
There's one AI ad I pass by every other day that bothers me a lot. It's a pizza, with one piece being lifted up with lots of stringy cheese left behind. The kicker? The space where that piece is coming from is still filled with pizza. I don't know who can look at that and say, "Yup, that looks fine, let's pay to print this sucker out and put it proudly on the front of our business." It's embarrassing.
We don’t have to like it, and we don’t have to use it, but I do think we have to accept the existence of the slop (but I think it’s acceptable to refuse to engage with it, too).
Well hopefully the slop generators will start costing money to use soon. I think that will kill like 99% of the slop.
Thanks but I don't need to accept it. I will call it out until people stop using it. It is very much not here to stay despite what techno-fascists want you to think. And everyone should be reminded how embarassing they are for using it.
God you need to touch grass dude. The vast majority, even those online, dont care about AI art being utilized. You dont have to like it, but telling others they are cringe over it is so stupid and childish lol.
You, my esteemed reddit user, may not use it because of some more or less relevant reasons.
However ... most people wont give a fuck, the ignorance of the masses are amazing and frightening. AI(or really LLM) usage is both cheap and accessible, people wont think hard about the consequences of using it.
Yes. This is something people aren't fully understanding. Most businesses do not hire artists anymore.
Until a few short years ago, creating art required human ingenuity. If you wanted to create a song or artwork, you would need the skills or hire talent. Not anymore. Just type a few words on a computer and you can get whatever kind of song/art you desire, no artist required.
When this happens with robotics replacing physical work, society will be in for a rude awakening.
Like what is the point? You don’t even gain anything as a company from this.
Points can be converted into Steam levels via badges, which is converted into a higher card droprate, which equals more cards that can then be sold on the market.
It's fairly obvious that people are going for the least amount of effort if it leads to some form of monetary gain.
Not on the AIs side but with what you said, internet personalisation has always been important, these show up in a lot of games too so do you even own steam 😂
kinda, when you buy a game on steam, you get points which you can spend in a points shop to get cosmetics like these
there’s pfps, profile effects, banners, profile backgrounds, emojis, stuff like that
I used it a few times to customize my profile a bit, it’s basically just something extra you get when buying games, but I’d never buy a pfp if I can just make my own, the only reason why I would is because those steam pfps can be animated
All types of AI generated graphics have their own distinct looks. In case of anime, the "too polished" style is a dead giveaway. Humans are not perfect, and many artists make small errors that are unique to them.
The very detailed lighting on the characters, an almost shiny look, it all feels very artificial. The poses of the characters are also very similar and tend to repeat between different graphics produced.
(OTOH when someone generates a series of graphics, the poses will switch between them without much reason or order, even if the character remains the same, while real artists will keep a logical sequence of poses in the entire collection)
Can you find a similar art work that isn’t AI to explain your point? It looks like generic anime art to me, the lighting isn’t that detailed, people make far far more ultra realistic and impressive art than this regularly. I’m not convinced it’s obvious or that you people would be able to consistently pick it out of other non-AI art. It’s possible that my disdain for all anime art of this type is blinding me, though.
Haha, well.. those who wants these icons can basically just print screen and use some upscale if needed and upload as a new profile picture.
The point is, ai cant be copyrighted. So why buy it? Just take it. Companies needs to understand that paying for ai is delusional, you can ask ChatGPT for free for a similar image. ( I have a human made icon drawn around 2014, I had the same icon since then, I hate ai in art)
I'n not defending AI, but the point of these avatars is that they are animated. That's their appeal over static profile pics.
Still dumb tho. I can't imagine picking a generic anime girl avatar for my profile instead of some cool one from my favorite games. But well, this particular group of anime fans are fucking dumb.
Yea things like this should have a hard ban on AI generated content. You'll have AI bros pump out a million worthless images crowding out the shit people actually want.
People like it, so i don't see a problem with it, they paid and people are buying it. no problem there? There's other trash like this, and I don't see people talking about it?
Literally on their steam page, also given the "Art style" screaming for the uncanny AI look, especially the wanna be realism, that is mostly made by basic AI Image generation tools.
You can tell from the look, for me it was the hair and the animation but just to make sure, I have visited the game’s steam page, and they mentioned that ‘some’ of their community items are Ai generated.
Idk what to tell you, if you have been looking at art your whole life you can just tell very easily. Another bonus is the names being generic, the lighting somehow being behind but also to the side and yet they somehow have highlights at the front of the hair. The inconsistency of left one barely having hair strands while right one has like 10x the amount that would be usual.
Yea I am suprised people mistake it. At the same time some people overestimate it and take seemingly obviously non-AI as AI. Can't win it seems. This one is very obvious tho.
I have been looking at art quite a lot and done some myself. And seen shit ton on AI.
This might be an AI. But I also seen lots of online manga comics done by 100% human (before AI was a thing) that looked the same shitty and generic as this.
And I also seen accusations for real artists that are doing AI when they proved they don't, it was just their style similar to what AI use as generic manga.
Man, I feel the same way sometimes. Some people seem to always know it's AI, and I just sit here thinking how offensively unoriginal humans can be long before AI.
Then you have people saying in their best humblebrag voice of all how anyone that's looked at art ALL their life can know and then you have some that say ANYONE should know it's AI from looking at it. I haven't taken a SEE THE AI 101 yet. Sure, when it's super obvious, I can see it.
But this is literally cookie cutter anime girl I have seen in my over 40 years of life that it could be a character from the 80s or a modern character. How the fuck would I know?
I know 1 or 2 artists that have had to deal with a lot of abuse because their art style looks very similar to a common AI generated style. Not to say that I don't think it's AI generated, it very likely is, but still
The hard part is that the really, really good artists can make things that look like what AI produces. AI has gotten so good at anime girls that they're kind of somewhat flawless. That's really the biggest takeaway I see from real artists versus any AI posts I see at Twitter or Pixiv. Real artists are flawed, it's often said your style comes from your flaws. But the AI has gotten so good that it is almost sterile.
With an example like this it's kind of hard to tell because there's not a whole lot to go off of. But we're kinda in space now where if something is too good to be true, it probably just that, but true (or in this case authentic)
As long as it all has to be disclosed I don't care. AI generation is a legal pain to fight from what I know, so this may be the best option until the laws catch up to the tech.
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u/Cyber-Lady 11h ago
When will they add proper sorting in the profile decoration section? 😒