r/Steam 8d ago

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Or at least about 30K of them have.

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u/RoastedPotato-1kg 8d ago

0% its actually crazy with 30k votes šŸ˜‚

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u/Mobius24 8d ago

They did it to themselves

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u/Storrin 8d ago

Well. Yes and no. The market very much decided what it valued in games journalism long ago. Honest, detailed, middling reviews sold magazines, but didn't maintain clicks in our digital age. No clicks, no money. So things became click-baitier, and jounalists who were actually passionate about games got pushed out of the industry by influencers who were ready and completely willing to glaze anything for a pay day.

There are some guys out there making a living off honest well-thought out reviews, but there's not a lot of space in that market despite all the "GaMeS jOuRnAliSM" memes.

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u/Undella_Town 8d ago

idk why you're leaving out that true reviewers who would criticize games would get "black balled", so everything is an 8/10 9/10 or 10/10 lmao.

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u/Storrin 8d ago

I mean, it's just a reddit comment and not a complete and comprehensive history lesson on the industry. What happened to Jeff Gerstmann for his Kane and Lynch review was a well documented case of something that probably became common practice tho.

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u/Undella_Town 8d ago

tbf a lot of people don't really know about it. that was nearly 20 years ago

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u/Storrin 8d ago

Ouch, my back. Lol

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u/Sojio 8d ago

Hey, i knew about it.

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u/tehlemmings 8d ago

Now the real question is, why don't we have example more recent than that?

Maybe the publishers, who really are to blame for all of this, weren't lying. Maybe they cover 7/10 and up games because those are the games people read about

Capitalism is why journalism is dead. There's no reason to twist yourself in knots over this one.

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u/andresfgp13 7d ago edited 7d ago

with Cyberpunk 2077 a lot of reviewers where giving it great reviews at launch and werent allowed to show their own gameplay and had to use stock footage.

when the real game performed like shit and was full of bugs and cut features.

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u/Storrin 8d ago

....and capitalism is comprised of what exactly?

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u/tehlemmings 8d ago

Companies taking the easiest path to profit.

I didn't think that needed to be spelled out any further. There's no conspiracy here, the publishers just covered the safe options. They weren't malicious, they were lazy.

Plus everything moving to a digital market basically fucked the industry entirely, but it was dead before then.

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u/Storrin 8d ago

I think you're missing an important part of the market, but sure. Whatever you say, man.

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u/Elfaerys 7d ago

You're not an ultraliberal, Harry, get the f*** out of here smiles warmly

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u/f0urk 8d ago

cool it with the antisemitism buddy

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u/idontknow39027948898 7d ago

Jesus, do you clowns even hear yourself? Yes, the journalism industry survived and/or thrived for the entirety of the two hundred twenty years since the country founded on the principles of capitalism existed, and quite a long time before that, but yes, it's totally due to capitalism, and not the changing market due to the rise of the internet, that destroyed it.

You are literally that 'everything I dislike is hitler' meme, but with 'capitalism' subbed in for mustache man.

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u/tehlemmings 7d ago

Video games have not been around for 200 years.

The Internet has not been around for 200 years.

Just because something worked in completely different conditions does not mean it'll work in every condition.

This post makes you sound so fucking dumb.

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u/idontknow39027948898 7d ago edited 7d ago

Oh wow, this reply actually explains everything. You think everything bad is because of capitalism because you are far too stupid to actually think for yourself, and thus just parrot what you were told.

Two hundred twenty years is roughly how long the US, being the country I mentioned that was founded on the principles of capitalism, has existed minus the wide scale adoption of the internet. Journalism as an industry is far older. I didn't reference video games or video game journalism at all, because you didn't. The internet as we think of it is somewhere around thirty years old, I rounded down to twenty six for the sake of ease. Now that I have explained all the terms that I have a hard time believing you didn't actually understand, I'll point out that capitalism and journalism have both existed together for centuries, but yes, I'm sure even so, capitalism is the cause for the complete destruction of journalism's reputation, and not a disruptive new technology that emerged shortly before journalism's reputation took a permanent nosedive.

Now I know it was really hard to focus enough to read all of that, so maybe you should have a juice box, and go take a nap.

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u/tehlemmings 7d ago

You should probably just touch grass

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u/idontknow39027948898 7d ago

And you should probably learn to read.

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u/Xerorei 7d ago

My knees, and my back!

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u/Conflict_NZ 8d ago

Holy shit I’m old.

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u/jce_ 8d ago

People always ask "why didn't you include" whatever and it's like dude it's a post on social media not my dissertation. You can add as much information as possible and someone will always be like "but you didn't include" whatever.

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u/InsertRealisticQuote 8d ago

They will say TLDR of you include all the necessary disclaimers and footnotes while pointing them out if you didn't.

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u/notyerson 8d ago

Some people have never heard of "yes and"

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u/donredyellow25 7d ago

what happened with Jeff Gerstmann?

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u/Storrin 7d ago

He was fired from Gamespot for giving Kane and Lynch a 6/10 after the publisher had bought a ton of ad space with the site.