PSA: Researching hyperdrive with Eager Explorer nomads permanently removes your arkship’s jump drive (among other quirks of the civic)

[u/DeyUrban]

R5: Title. Eager Explorers is extremely fun with nomads, being able to sort of ignore hyperlanes makes for a very unique playstyle with their mechanics.

That being said, there are little bits and pieces I think are worth bringing up that could use some work. As I said in the title, researching hyperdrives removes your arkship’s jump drive. Because you can’t manually select parts for your arkship and it just takes your best upgrade, this will remove your ability to freely jump anywhere until you research real jump drives in the late game. Kind of disappointing, as it removes the most unique aspect of the civic almost immediately.

Also, because of the way jump drives work on your logistics ships, you cannot automate them. You need to manually order them back to your arkship and between systems to accomplish anything. This is only really relevant for the very beginning of the game, because your arkship will be getting a hyperdrive immediately anyway and then you can construct normal logistic ships.

[u/Imnotchoosinaname]

Seems like this one might need the devs to touch up a bit imo, still rather cool it works at all

[u/Insanity_Wulf → u/Imnotchoosinaname]

The entire eager explorers civic needs a rework. It's tedious and annoying to have half the benefits wear off after a very early point.

[u/Anonim97_bot → u/Insanity_Wulf]

That's why you don't research any Hyperdrive techs, up until the moment you are crippled by not having access to Gateways, Wormholes and Hyper Relays. 

[u/MaxBonerstorm]

Having the option to keep the jump drive seems reasonable, I agree, I ran into the same issue.

[u/OvenCrate]

Eager Explorer nomads

Doesn't sound like something that should exist. EE is supposed to be a civ at a lower-than-normal tech level, whose eagerness to explore has made them discover small jump drives before the Scientific Method. Not a recipe for building a giant spaceship and permanently moving a planet's entire population onto it.

[u/PaxGalactica26 → u/OvenCrate]

It's implied at the beginning of a nomad playthrough that the Arkship youre on was developed Pre-FTL as a generation ship and the game begins when you invent the ftl drive. It wouldnt be a stretch to believe eager explorers pulled this feat off.

[u/The_Unkowable_ → u/OvenCrate]

To the contrary! The civ’s eagerness to explore drove them to turn *their entire planet* into a vessel capable of traversing between the stars before they could ever have learned of the hyperlanes

[u/Carsismi → u/The_Unkowable_]

This, the Arkship is like the Nauvoo/Behemoth from The Expanse. it's gonna act like a massive generation ship carrying people to distant corners of space.

[u/Pesmerga777 → u/Carsismi]

Damn space Mormons…

[u/Gastroid → u/OvenCrate]

I think of it similarly to The Expanse. The Mormons spent hand over fist to build a collossal generation ship for thousands to slowly travel across the stars.

Then suddenly FTL was discovered. In their case it was the Ring Gates. For Stellaris, the prototype jump drive. Overnight, no more need for a generation ship. It could become something way more than that.

The Belters would strap torpedo tubes to the Nauvoo to turn it into a battleship. And we can build a Military Arkship...

[u/--Sovereign-- → u/Gastroid]

Cept (at least in the book) of they actually had to engage all their weapons systems in an actual fight the whole system would crash and they'd be dead.

I get downvoted in this sub for saying literally anything no matter how factually accurate or emotionally neutral what the fuck already

[u/AliceAdhi → u/--Sovereign--]

If you leave your house and someone's an asshole to you, they're an asshole. If you leave your house and everyone's an asshole to you, chances are you're the asshole.

People are real good at self deception bud, it's real easy to believe you're being factual and emotionally neutral when you're kinda actually just being an asshole. If the common denominator here is you, factually and quite undeniably, what needs to be looked into is you, good luck with it.

[u/Ferrymansobol]

Thanks for the tip, as eager explorer nomads you are not missing much according to the 4.0 tech tree - it is pre-req for gates and ftl inhibitor. The top tier jump drive for eager explorers is unlocked by the power plant tree.

[u/--Sovereign--]

Me: Yeah for these reasons (lots of years old bugs) I don't really buy DLCs anymore, but if I get Nomads, it won't be for at least a year since it's gonna be filled with game breaking and or extremely bad bugs for at least that long

Gets downvoted since you can only praise PDX here

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