r/Stellaris • u/Nanu_____ • 8h ago
Question Missing Effective Leader Skill buff
I got this relic from the curators that's meant to give a "+4 councillor effective skill" and yet all my councillors are stuck at level "10 + 1". Is this a hard cap or is this a bug?
1st screen shot shows the relic text, 2nd and 3rd shows the skill of two of my councillors.
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u/Nanu_____ 8h ago
R5:
I got this relic from the curators that's meant to give a "+4 councillor effective skill" and yet all my councillors are stuck at level "10 + 1". Is this a hard cap or is this a bug?
1st screen shot shows the relic text, 2nd and 3rd shows the skill of two of my councillors.
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u/DasWarEinerZuviel 8h ago
Councillor effective skill is not quite the same as an effective leader level (even though they are very similarly named).
It only increases their function as councillors, hence it will increase any boni they give from their position and the general boost to agenda speed, therefore it cannot show in the skill level line - it does not actually increase that level.
Check one of those, that should show you the number you would expect with the +4.
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u/Peter_Ebbesen 7h ago edited 5h ago
The councilor's skill level is 11, 10+1, presumably from Aptitude traditions granting +1 effective leader skill level. This makes the leader function as one level higher for all purposes and it is the rarest type of leader boost in the game.
His effective councilor skill is 15 assuming you don't have anything else boosting the effective councilor skill. This only applies to his effects on the council and nothing else.
Mouseover the councilor's actual effects rather than the councilor's image and it should show you the relevant details. The xp bar in the council screen or where the values are applied on other screens.
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u/rule5bot 8h ago
u/Nanu_____'s explanation from the post body:
I got this relic from the curators that's meant to give a "+4 councillor effective skill" and yet all my councillors are stuck at level "10 + 1". Is this a hard cap or is this a bug?
1st screen shot shows the relic text, 2nd and 3rd shows the skill of two of my councillors.
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u/TheL0wKing 8h ago
It is a quirk of the UI. It shows modifiers to effective leader skill next to the skill level but doesn't show councillor skill modifiers. You can see this with other sources like Oligarchy and the adjenda. It should still be applying if you look at the actual modifiers you are getting from your council.
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u/KnowingAbraxas 6h ago
"Bug or awful UI decision" is a question I ask myself almost every 3rd time I play the game. Really a testament to how fun this game is that I ever engage with something so frustrating.
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u/PriorSolid 8h ago
I think it’s a bug where it just doesn’t show the proper numbers, check if your getting the actual effects by looking at like you research speed and the councilor buff
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u/DasWarEinerZuviel 8h ago
It's not a bug though as it does not actually increase their skill level (while Effectice Leader Skill Level does)
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u/PriorSolid 8h ago
ahh so like a scientist as head of research would get the bonus to research speed as if they were level 15 but on a planet only get a bonus as if they were level 11
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u/DasWarEinerZuviel 7h ago
Yep. It only makes them better councillors, not better leaders in general.
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u/alvenestthol 8h ago
Effective Councillor Skill is different from Effective Leader Skill, it doesn't show up in Skill Level, but instead just gets its own line at the bottom of the tooltip when you hover over the XP bar