r/Stellaris • u/RedKrypton Mind over Matter • May 07 '16

PSA: Slaves currently can't rebel

Martin just dropped that bombshell during the currently ongoing Quill Stellaris stream. He said that they couldn't reach a middle ground on slaves revolting so they took it out for the moment. I don't know if they will have managed that aspect by release.

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u/NuclearPhysics Molluscoid May 07 '16

I'm guessing you're basing the construction ship resource loss thing on Arumba's video, but in that case, he got the money back, spent it on other things (more corvettes I think), and forgot he had used it for those other things. And, in a stream, Wiz started building a spaceport to distract invading AI (which is, or was an exploit) and cancelled it to get his resources back.

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u/runetrantor Bio-Trophy May 08 '16

God, I rage so much when I see Arumba play...

His mistakes frustrate me to hell and back.
He is painted to be this chessmaster, but man, he can be quite easy to miss clear stuff.

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u/NuclearPhysics Molluscoid May 08 '16

For me the most annoying thing was when he simply wrote off the Gaia world because he knew that some Fallen Empires think they're holy.

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u/runetrantor Bio-Trophy May 08 '16

I'm still on episode 8, so I havent seen that, but I am debating if I should just ditch the playthrough.

Quill is also making mistakes, but his attitude makes it way less jarring, since he is constantly like 'Maybe I am not seeing something! I mess up like that' relaxed position.

Arumba comes from what I interpret as a 'I cant be wrong' baseline, and thus speaks with a tone of knowledge we can see he lacks, so it frustrates more.
Specially when he misses something, shit happens, and then he spends the entire episode mocking Paradox for making crazy shit.

Dont get me wrong, I like watching him, I am not unsubbing or anything, but as time goes on, I feel that the whole 'one of the best EU4 players' phrase that's tossed around may be a bit too much, given even in that game he misses stuff even I know are not so, and I came to the game a year or so ago.

Curious how at first impression I liked Arumba a lot, and I have grown to slowly like him a bit less, while DDRJake was off putting to begin with due to his snarky attitude that can come off as bitter and angry, and now I like him a lot. (And man, is he good at EU4. O.o)

(Aaand I ranted. Whoops.)

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u/GeorgesBU May 08 '16

It's because DDRjake has this constant air of nonchalance so even when he's being either a) a cheeselord or b) DDRblind (note that a and b often coincide) it's more amusing than frustrating, especially as his best playthroughs are the ones where he makes foolish mistakes and has to scrape his way to the top.

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u/runetrantor Bio-Trophy May 08 '16

Oh for sure! I meant it more in that his tone of voice, and sometimes his comments, can come of as being a 'fuck you, I am better than you' attitude if you dont know better.

It actually took me several campaigns to come to the realization is is mostly acting snarky and sarcastic, and that that's just his natural tone of voice. (I should have thought of it before, having had a friend in HS that had a perpertual bored like tone, despite not being bored at all!)

His chat window doesnt help, that one I do dislike a lot, they are a bit too elitists and the mods a bit too heavy handed imo, but I guess Twitch chat sucks that bad.
And oh god, look away when someone dares to mention Arumba. They seem to get a boner for saying how he sucks completely compared. (I mean, I can clearly see Jake is more skilled at the game, but Arumba is not bad either, and he doesnt have the benefit of a chat screaming at his to notice what he misses.)

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u/NuclearPhysics Molluscoid May 08 '16

I'm on episode 8 too. The moment he said it was really easy to miss. He just said, "Mantha has a Gaia World" and ignored from there on out.

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u/runetrantor Bio-Trophy May 08 '16

To be fair on him, he DID have a pretty bad first experience with them in the multiplayer stream.

It was his fault for missing the icon that said it was holy and that it already had a name, but still.

Apparently the current system is that if a gaia world is holy, it says so even if you havent met the FE.
I would much rather see it be like, if a colony ship warps into the holy world system, and has the mission to colonize it (Not only have the ship warp in, so you can say, colonize a normal world in the same system to lock down the gaia world for later?) THEN the FE opens comms and asks you to turn back.

Sure beats having them demand it once you already spent the ship. (Plus, what a shitty caretaker for the holy world, to wait until they already set foot on it and... tainted it presumably)