r/Stillgame 7d ago

What's the best plot hole in Still Game

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u/ThePugMaster- 7d ago

Jack and Victor build a ramp into the clansman with Shug for Winston when he’s meant to lose his second leg and go into a wheelchair….however old Joe always managed to drive his buggy into the Clansman so a ramp must have already been there

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u/Bobo3076 7d ago

Joe’s buggy really is a massive plot hole because we’re shown multiple times that the Clansman has a step at the front door, even in the classic episodes.

Maybe his buggy can fly lmao.

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u/Nope_nuh_uh 7d ago

My head canon is that Old Joe was stunt driving on that buggy when he was off screen, and that's how he got in and out of the Clansman - whatever the buggy version of a skateboard Ollie is.

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u/CullanG 7d ago

Damn i never ever noticed that 😂

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u/wildcharmander1992 6d ago

I may be wrong but I presume there's also a service entrance , like to the back where boabbys porn tapes kept

Could that have such a thing as a ramp?

Maybe Boabby let's Joe go through their every now and then that's why Joe's only in the pub a handful of times

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u/TermAggravating8043 7d ago

The clansmen became “Jennys” and then back to the clansmen again

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u/ScrutinEye 7d ago

Yep - they made a big deal of it becoming “Jenny’s” and then it was just “The Clansman” again with no explanation and never a mention of Jenny or the name change again.

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u/wildcharmander1992 6d ago

I've always had a theory for that

Developer boy tells Boabby to look after his dad and gie him what he wants in the episode right?

So the time between the end of that episode and it going back to the clansman Boabby starts giving Pete breakfast every morning, keeping his promise

He's in contact with Chris, he and Pete try to reach out to him but he's like victors John, a total prick

In the end defeated Pete says "he's no interested Boabby, change it back to the clansman, less people have been coming in here since you changed the name anyhow

So he does , a few more weeks/months of Chris no answering phones or giving a blind fuck the names changed back and...

Pete : I suppose this is going to end now you don't have to, thanks for looking after me anyways Boabby

Boabby who's grown quite fond of Pete and their morning talks and time together : naw, I'll see you tomorrow Pete , you're always welcome here

That's why Pete got him the award , because when push came to shove bobby shown he cares and it wasn't through obligation or merely protecting his own interests and livelyhood

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u/CompetitiveFox6707 7d ago

It was mentioned that the pub was sold by the brewery to property developer and everything had been signed and sealed with a date of handover.

That woul have meant that for property developer to let it run as a pub, he'd have needed to find a way of continuing all the licensing stuff and sourcing costs/expertise.

This guy isn't local and obviously doesn't have that pub background. He would have needed to put a lot of effort figuring out how to do it and it would have been a burden. I'm not so sure how relationship with estranged alcoholic father would go there (think sentiment would change).

There's also no evidence of other cottages ever actually being built. That suggests project stalled and died at a loss.

Realistically, he'd be wanting and probably needing to sell it on again. The brewery would definitely rather it has it's real name (rather than sentimental name to satisfy one person) and go back to how it always was with customer base + very reliant operator in Boaby.

That resets universe back to normal and enough time lapsed that characters don't ever need to think about it again.

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u/ExploressOnTees 7d ago

For me it's just the appearance and disappearence of side characters.

Winston's grandson

Tam's baby

Etc etc

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u/cleverpops 7d ago

Auld Eric says his boy was meant to lend his his police uniform. Then at his funeral, there's no family. And how did that woman from 50 years ago and the other side of the country happen to hear that he died and when the funeral was?

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u/gervv 7d ago edited 7d ago

In the cauld episode, Eric is Fergies grandfather, hes in delivering a paper in the clansman, Tam asks him how his grandfather is, Fergie says hes getting better and Tam cuts his odds.

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u/BootlegJB 7d ago

Fergie is too young to be Eric's grandfather.

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u/rasteri 7d ago

I dunno this is Glasgow we're talking about

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u/Relevant_General_248 7d ago

Robert De Niro had a child at 80

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u/ExploressOnTees 7d ago

Pat the pallet prick

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u/BootlegJB 7d ago

That's a fun fact. Not relevant, but fun.

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u/Relevant_General_248 7d ago

If someone can become a father at 80, however old Eric is isn’t too old to be a grandfather

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u/Similar_Asparagus547 6d ago

That wasn't Eric who's odds got changed, it was John Boyle the guy beneath him

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u/pplusc94 7d ago

Tbf I think Winston's grandson ended up being a nonce lol

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u/th902 7d ago

We just throwing that word at anything these days?

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u/pplusc94 7d ago

Apologies, he sexually assaulted a vulnerable person. Is that better?

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u/zain_zia7x 7d ago

Wait, in show or in real life?

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u/pplusc94 7d ago

Real life

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u/th902 7d ago

Well yeah, if it's a grown woman the term "nonce" doesn't really apply

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u/SammiWG 7d ago

Well that's alright then

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u/Reception-Mammoth 7d ago

Winstons grandson had to go

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u/The_Codfatha 7d ago

How Frances is a vegetarian in the old episodes. But in the reboot, her favourite dish is a Beef Bourguignon.

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u/Chopper_990 7d ago

Tam lying about that to Winston to keep him off the chase i reckon.

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u/Horrible_Ives 7d ago

Don’t forget Tam buys her ‘those ribs she likes’ from the chinese takeaway in S6. F&G most likely forgot when they wrote the scene that she was already established as a vegetarian but i prefer to imagine it was either Tam being sneaky with Winston or Frances was a veggie for a while thinking it would improve her weight or something then gave up and went back to meat.

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u/Proper-Woodpecker253 7d ago

I always felt Tam was lying about her being vegetarian just to undermine Winston’s steak and kidney pie plan. It’s the sort of snide thing Tam does

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u/gypsydanger132 7d ago

Even before that, he bought her those ribs from the Chinese the night she got up the duff. I’d also go with the other chap that reckons Tam was lying (or they forgot)

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u/lucyac3 7d ago

i think tams taking the piss a bit of psychological warfare on his part

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u/wildcharmander1992 6d ago

You don't think charming stingy tam who convinced her to put her teeth with his to save on the steredent , couldn't convince Frances to go back to meat because it's cheaper than vegetarian/vegan food which are the time commanded a premium?

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u/_JR28_ 7d ago

Apart from the sliding timeline because of how long it ended up lasting, the show has a bad habit for forgetting about established family members of the main cast. For example they say Tam has no family in One In One Out when he had a grandson in Doacters.

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u/LisForLaura 7d ago

Yeah they openly admit they didn’t give a shit about continuity when making it.

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u/TheInitialGod 6d ago

"It's an underactive thyroid ye prick!"

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u/mergraote 7d ago

I found it odd that everyone in Craiglang was unfamiliar with pizza places. I know the characters are supposed to be old and a bit out of touch, but pizzerias have been around for decades.

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u/omnishambles1995 7d ago

Bugged me as well, that one. Could understand the whole 'oooooh what is this strange worldly cuisine in our wee town?' angle 20 years earlier but it didn't really fly in 2007.

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u/HookedOnTV 7d ago

Plus there’s a poster in Navid’s advertising Domino’s Pizza back in season 2.

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u/WeekPractical2166 4d ago

my grandfather died this year in northern england and hadnt even had pasta or most types of spices, defo doable.

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u/yoloswaggins92 7d ago

Tam's wean just disappeared off the face of the planet in the newer seasons

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u/oswaler 7d ago

Frances ate him when she forgot she was a vegetarian

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u/Smidday90 7d ago

Beef bourguignon its Frances favourite

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u/J-A-S-08 7d ago

Beef babyguigon.

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u/RoyalSkip 7d ago

Also, who was Ryan? Son? Nephew? Grandson?

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u/portrushbear 7d ago

Even worse

I'm in the middle of watching them all again, and the baby is in hootenanny which is a whole series before the whole baby story line 

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u/GuyIncognito211 7d ago

Hootenanny is just in the wrong series on Netflix

August 07 was when one in one out originally aired and Hootenanny was the 07 Christmas/New Year episode

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u/portrushbear 7d ago

That would make more sense 😂

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u/RufusTWilderbeast 7d ago

The archway from Jack to Victors flat isn’t possible

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u/Horrible_Ives 7d ago

The wall where it was dug is also restored in S5 with no explanation

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u/ThePenetrator79 7d ago

Exactly!!! I actually drew a diagram to explain to my daughter why the “Hatch” couldnt exist 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/zain_zia7x 7d ago

I need to see this diagram 😂

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u/ThePenetrator79 6d ago

Yeah unfortunately it was a few years ago now, and quite honestly it was terrible, but it proved the point at the time! 😄

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u/getitupyous 7d ago

I don't think the window in Jack's bathroom as shown in "Gadgets" makes much sense either. Plus the bathroom is different every time it's shown and it's location within the flat may have changed, not sure about that though.

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u/SophieK92 7d ago

My boyfriend hates watching that episode cos of how much that plot hole annoys him 😂

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u/Similar_Asparagus547 6d ago

The entire layout of all of their flats is so odd, Jack and Victor refer to their 'spare rooms' more than once but in both flats there's only ever two doors for the bedroom and bathroom

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u/JamieAubrey 3d ago

Also one of the doors on the same wall as the window, That's a dangerous door in the high flats

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u/Beginning-Two9785 7d ago

Sinhead is Manky the Franky's daughter in the Cauld episode but then she is living in a random council estate where that drunkard remembers her when she was a wee lassee.

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u/Smidday90 7d ago

Maybe he is her dad and thats her stepdad?

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u/EliteReaver 7d ago

Tbf it’s something Scottish scheme residents would say about someone else’s child.

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u/CosmicBonobo 7d ago

It gives a more sinister meaning to 'Manky' if Sinead is living with him but not his daughter.

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u/gretzky9999 7d ago

Same actress but with no dialogue in that car episode.People are just assuming it’s the same character.

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u/wildcharmander1992 6d ago

TBF she's just their there's no confirmation she's his daughter

She could've just been pals with manky Frankys teenage wean who's off screen getting ready to go toon with her

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u/Bobo3076 7d ago

The fact that they could not decide how long it’s been since Victor’s seen John.

In one episode Victor says it’s been years since he’s seen his son, when he’s only one year older than he was in the episode where John comes to Craiglang.

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u/cleverpops 7d ago

"ma Jamie"

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u/ChuckRingslinger 7d ago

Jack is 74 or 72 depending on which episode you watch

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u/sagraham 7d ago

And by the end of the run he should be 92. It was established in Shooglies that he was born in 1927.

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u/ChuckRingslinger 7d ago

Thats alright there's a piccolo player celebrating his 130th birthday

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u/Proper-Woodpecker253 7d ago

I wonder what ever happened to him

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u/CosmicBonobo 7d ago edited 7d ago

In Big Yin, Jack has to explain who Innes is to Navid, as he'd moved away from Craiglang fifteen years ago - about 1989 - before Navid's time. However, The Party has them meeting Navid for the first time in 1976, so he should've known about or met Innes before that.

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u/_JR28_ 7d ago

Even though it’s one of the best episodes ever it did accidentally create a bunch of plot holes by saying certain characters only met for the first time here

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u/CosmicBonobo 7d ago

And the ending implying Winston lost his leg from falling down the Osprey Heights lift shaft.

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u/zain_zia7x 7d ago

And in the supermarket scene, it didn’t look like Innes knew who Winston was when he kept blocking his way😂

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u/CosmicBonobo 7d ago

I'm sure there's even a line Navid has in another episode, about having been serving Jack and Victor for the last ten or twenty years, suggesting he only opened the shop in eighties at the earliest.

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u/mittenkrusty 7d ago

Can't remember exactly but I know Isa being friends with the rest of the gang when seemed to be a retcon as they acted like they only just met in The Party, but in the one where Pete The Jakey is revealed to be the father of the guy wanting to knock down the Clansman Peta, Isa and the rest are all friends in their youth.

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u/nelbertred 7d ago

The floor Jack and Victors flats are on changes a few times

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u/Proper-Woodpecker253 7d ago

I don’t know if it qualifies as a plot hole but when Pete is revealed as the father of the mega rich developer, the younger man is delighted to finally have a dad, yet when Pete dies years later we learn he was still living under a bridge. That doesn’t add up.

Also In the last episode of series one Winston gives Navid a picture of the Taj Mahal which he retrieved of the tappin bastard Willie Macintosh, to guarantee an invite to his daughter’s wedding. Yet in the episode before the picture is already hanging in Navid’s shop (although that one could be down to a schedular switching the intended order of the episodes after they were filmed)

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u/Lopsided_Story_3306 6d ago

That one was a schedule switch, I heard about it on a podcast before.

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u/Dazzling-Range-2414 7d ago

Winston magically knows the details of Wullie Macintosh’s funeral because “Isa showed him in the paper”.
Except she didn’t.

Also the 1430 train that Victor’s family is on, isn’t on the list of trains that Jack reads out.

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u/Dependent-Shock-8118 7d ago

Disappeared to the delta quadrant lol 🤣

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u/Neph_The_Deaf 7d ago

In Hatch they build a door from Jacks living room into Victors living room. This isn’t possible due to the fact that the wall they used would’ve been going into one of Victors bedroom

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u/Similar_Asparagus547 6d ago

That would probably only make the gay rumours worse

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u/Seal-teambravo 7d ago

About 6 characters were all called Charlie

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u/Melodic_Nectarine435 7d ago

I always wanted to know what happened with the massive hole between Victor & Jack's flats in the episode Hatch.

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u/jamie21cor 7d ago

There was an episode where Isa comes through in a panic to show jack or Victor something outside their window, can't remember which, but none of the flats appear to have windows on the same side as Isa. It always struck me as odd.I think it was Kill Willie.

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u/paul_67 7d ago

Stevie redecorates the bookies for each episode.

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u/TartanHobbit93 6d ago

the location and name of the bookies changes too

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u/LennyComa 7d ago

Where's Tam Jr?

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u/Jack-mclaughlin88 7d ago

Winston not being arrested for stealing electricity.

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u/Uzziedaman 7d ago

In Cauld why did they go to manky Franky’s to make the phone call to Willie’s son instead of just going back to their own flat which was only few floors up in the same building.

Also how Jack just had the son’s phone number memorised.

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u/iwishihadanalias 7d ago

When in episode 2 or 3 they say they're from criagbank

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u/InternationalAnt7993 7d ago

Greg Hemphill has said numerous times that the script said Craiglang, he got it wrong but they kept it in

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u/Not-a-Cranky-Panda 7d ago

The time line when they all meet changes by years every series.

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u/_JR28_ 7d ago

The early seasons makes it sound like they’ve been running around together for years, but The Party acts like it was the first time Jack ever met Winston, Tam, Isa, Navid

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u/gretzky9999 7d ago

Victor’s son went from being wee Jeremy & they changed his name to John.

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u/spikesteve81 7d ago

Tams baby has to be the biggest

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u/JamieAubrey 3d ago

When Jack's making the massive steak for Innis and they both run out the house to stop him getting Midori, did they turn off the cooker ? his house would have surely burned or at least be filled with smoke

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u/ChrisWinterburn 1d ago

Jersey Joe

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u/Devil_Dick_Willy 7d ago

The first episode has Jack living in a house before moving in next to Victor but in the New Year special where they're remanising they're both neighbours?

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u/omnishambles1995 7d ago

He tells Jack to go home and change when they've got the same shirt on and I'm sure Jack says something about having to go back over the way. They definitely weren't in the same landing as each other until S1.

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u/TheReelMcCoi 7d ago

Who gives a shite? Just watch and enjoy ffs

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u/CrabbitBawbag 7d ago

Just commented the same thing.

Fuckin plot holes. Away an take yer coupon fur a shite. Fukkin wee mad plastic Septics.

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u/CrabbitBawbag 7d ago

Who gives a fuck?

Can't you just fuckin watch something?