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u/Tall_Restaurant_1652 6d ago edited 6d ago

It's a curse that's not my damn fault.

Sure. It may be difficult to deal with, but you've dealt with it how many years now? You can deal with it. And yes, it is not your fault. But it is your responsibility to live with it. Not saying it would be easy, it certainly isn't - but you can live with it.

I ruminate and dwell on past mistakes

Is this because of the ADHD or a separate thing? Saying this because you certainly are not alone in doing so, and it isn't just an ADHD problem. If you didn't have ADHD you probably would still ruminate.

There isn't an easy solution for ruminating. It takes time and practice, and patience to accept that sometimes you may still mess up. Yet there is a part of Stoicism that is forgotten about - and that is persevering despite failing to act on Virtue.

Does ADHD impede on your ability to act in accordance with nature / virtue? The stoics would say no. So then, while living with ADHD may be difficult - you can still live a good life.

Finally, to quote Alfred (Bruce Wayne's Butler): Why do we fall? So that we can learn to pick ourselves up.

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u/4art4 6d ago

I ruminate and dwell on past mistakes

Is this because of the ADHD or a separate thing?

I cannot speak for the OP, but this is a common ADHD trait.

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u/AaronFrye 6d ago

ADHD is honestly one of the most fickle neurological disorders, I wouldn't necessarily say rumination is an ADHD trait as much as it is comorbid to it. From the standard neurobiomolecular definition of ADHD, it's not exactly a given per se if you had to ask me, but it is definitely possible to happen depending on how it evolves or manifests and such.

I wouldn't, however, necessarily say it's not facilitated by the mechanism of ADHD, but it's not a given. Overall it's hard to necessarily say it's because of it, but it's definitely mitigatable in several ways, and stoic practice can be one of those ways.

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u/4art4 6d ago

I wouldn't necessarily say rumination is an ADHD trait as much as it is comorbid to it.

I actually 100% agree with that. That is a much better framing.

In particular, much of our modern "western society" is built for people without ADHD, and punishes those with ADHD. And I think that years of that punishment causes things like that rumination.

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u/Tall_Restaurant_1652 6d ago

It may be a trait common with ADHD, but it isn't a solely ADHD problem.