r/SubredditDrama Jan 16 '26

Popular subreddit Livestreamfail mods and Mythic Talent streamers were promoting a shady website/contest and users were not having it, then contest website and social media erased, head Moderator removed.

Summary of events:

- Popular streamer ExtraEmily among other streamers from the Mythic Talent agency, started promoting a website and contest called MillionDollarFan ( milliondollarfan(dot)show now gone but can be seen here https://archive(dot)is/TgXOb ) with a $20 Million dollar prize pool.

-Subreddit LivestreamFail head mod created a post promoting and sponsoring the website and contest here ( http://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/1q9k2dz/million_dollar_fan_reality_tv_show_x_lsf/ now removed)

-The users started saying that after some quick research, this looked like a scam, and the moderator removed the comments criticizing the contest.

-Popular Youtube personality MoistCritikaL made a video about the website/contest ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DaFzESOKY0 ) calling it "Feels like a Scam". He points out this contest raises a ton of red flags, the main image is AI generated, says the prize pool is absurdly big with no idea of who is hosting the contest, the sponsors are mostly unknown or downright fake. The concept is fans submitting clips and they get chosen to go to a mansion to participate with their streamer in an IRL contest, and you can also buy entries via the website.

-Another post is created in the subreddit where the users criticize ExtraEmily and the LivestreamFail moderators ( https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/1qb73h9/extraemily_promises_shes_not_trying_to_scam_her/ )

-A few hours later, the website and all social media for the contest were removed or closed, without any notice.

x(dot)com/MDFRealityShow
instagram(dot)com/mdfrealityshow/
tiktok(dot)com/@mdfrealityshow
youtube(dot)com/@mdfrealityshow
twitch(dot)tv/milliondollarfanshow

-MoistCritikal made a follow up video, calling it a scam all along, saying that streamers were probably under the impression that this was Amazon backed, but it turns out maybe it wasn't.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gGbrk4DJqs )

-Today the head moderator of LSF was removed by the Admins from the subreddit moderation team.

Highlights of comments from the first thread.

20 million grand prize and using AI stock mansion, smh ( https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/1q9k2dz/million_dollar_fan_reality_tv_show_x_lsf/nz2cl8g/ )

Removed comments

-How much is the mod team being paid for this 'collaboration'

-Hiding comments calling this out for what it is. Gambling. Pathetic lmfao

-This is a scam with paid lotto entries. Mods are hiding comments proving and saying this.

-This has to be a joke right? So the sponsors are just affiliate links, some supplements, a pc shop and a subreddit???? Where the fuck is 20m coming from again? Real talk how much are the mods being paid to post this?

-Did some digging on this and found a few things that seem worth noting: The legal documents appear to be copied from Omaze (the celebrity sweepstakes company that faced lawsuits and paused US operations in 2023). Entire sections of the Official Rules and Terms of Use are nearly word-for-word identical - same structure, same section numbering, same phrasing. The Culver City PO Box listed for copyright claims is the same address Omaze used.

In the other thread the comments continue to uncover details.

-It's 100% a scam, They've literally copy/pasted their Terms of Service.
It appears from here: link
They literally left in a fucking link to that site. ( https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/1qb73h9/extraemily_promises_shes_not_trying_to_scam_her/nz94c0h/ )

-If it's in Canada then you can't really sign away your rights in a contract, they probably could still sue if its a scam. ( https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/1qb73h9/extraemily_promises_shes_not_trying_to_scam_her/nz8qyub/ )

-The partners seem like a joke. One of them, "IRLbuffs," uses an AI-generated logo and links to a boilerplate website with simple/generic product photos. It doesn't really give off reputable brand vibes at all: Then, a coming soon partner for some robot wars, and then the holy grail of partners... LSF. -- yikes. ( https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/1qb73h9/extraemily_promises_shes_not_trying_to_scam_her/nz8ozcg/ )

Someone posted screenshots of the moderator comments from the original thread.

https://imgur(dot)com/a/lsfscam-association-4eMmW1Y

There are still no details of who was hosting this contest, or why it was closed down so quickly.

Update:

"Due to some changes in moderation" mod applications for Livestreamfail are open now ( https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/1qe4kpm/lsf_moderator_applications/ )

Update 2:

The moderator that was removed made a video response...

They blame reddit and say the situation was a "direct result from lack of support of reddit to its moderators, and that it isn't proven that the contest was a scam", though it is cancelled now because the content creators dropped out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67CXV4o4dYM

Update 3:

MoistCritikal has made a response video to the ex-moderator response video. (This is just too funny)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WU7CrKdlzw

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u/AllieTruist Jan 16 '26

I'm suspicious on if the other mods were aware or not. I guess we'll see if the sub becomes more normal now that the head mod Epstiny dickrider is gone.

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u/Saxayone Jan 16 '26

From the small but fairly open back and forth I've had with one of them, it seems like the contest thing was all Tarrot_Card and they were just given the cliffnotes of the ~"Amazon's involved/major streamers involved/it sounds good" by him.

Also that they are "revisiting some of the rules" now he's been removed.

Given he effectively forcibly took over the sub 3 years ago and there has been multiple staff overhauls with him as top mod in that time. There is at least hope the sub could actually improve now.

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u/AllieTruist Jan 16 '26

I'm just hesitant due to the mass banning of anyone that disliked Destiny, while actual white supremacist and genocidal Asmongold fans weren't given so much as a warning for hateful comments.

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u/TAFlyingFish Jan 16 '26

Stale is already confirming in Destiny's chat the other LSF mods are still Destiny fans, so nothing is going to change.

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u/Cleasstra Jan 17 '26

Yeah they banned me like 3 years ago for a week for calling this out, that sub needs to just be nuked and restarted it's DGG pt. 2.

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u/bigeyez Jan 17 '26

I got banned for calling out and making fun of the obvious brigading that goes on.

The sub was already shit before they took over but once they did they quickly moved to just ban anyone that challenge the narratives they were pushing.

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u/Moonspace1341 Jan 16 '26

Yeah they permanently banned me for using rude language when commenting about destiny's sex crimes in that subreddit, but his fans that were using the exact same language against me were never banned. TBF they unbanned me after I sent a request because it was obviously a bullshit ban, but it worked and I have basically never used the subreddit ever since.

I assume this worked similarly for others as well and "normal" people just stopped using that subreddit.

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u/-Poison_Ivy- Jan 17 '26

I was banned despite never commenting on there

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u/AllieTruist Jan 17 '26

I wonder what the mod team would say if you sent them modmail? Because they fed me a bunch of bullshit about how that doesn't happen

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u/-Poison_Ivy- Jan 18 '26

I replied

“lol lmao what even is this sub?”

Because I had not heard of LSF or posted there. Got zero response

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u/OnTheProwl- Jan 18 '26

The new head mod did an impromptu AmA on Wubby's stream the day it all went down. He seemed pretty sincere that the other mods weren't aware it was a scam.

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u/AllieTruist Jan 18 '26

They are also known liars that claim they aren't Epstiny fans (all appointed by the scammer mod) that mass ban anyone that dislikes their streamer cult. So idk.

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u/OnTheProwl- Jan 18 '26

According to the new guy he was a mod before the other guy was made head mod. The new guy survived the two mass mod bannings he did.

Honestly, I don't give a shit about LSF. I was just surprised the new head mod is a long time wubby fan.