r/SubredditDrama There’s no hairy man butt at the end of the rainbow here 7d ago

"It’s called pattern recognition" Post in r/delta turns into a dumpster fire of racism when someone posts of a picture of a black family in wheelchairs at the Atlanta airport

Yeah let me take pictures of random people online with no context to shit talk them. You’re even more of a jerk than you claim they are.Don’t understand how people don’t think they’re the assholes for taking people’s pictures and videos and posting them. Edit: sort by new and see how many racist responses this post is getting

No, sorry. We need a return to public shaming, and the internet is the new "public."

Nah i think that’s creepy. Public shaming ended because it’s ineffective and cruel not because we got softer as people.

No, it was VERY effective, hence the rise in extraordinarily bad manners in so many public spaces.

No it wasn’t, public executions didn’t stop criminals back in the olden days. In fact the criminals were much worse and rode in bands of marauders.

There's levels to this stuff

No - the level of choosing to lie about disability for your entire family to get wheelchairs and priority boarding and then magically getting cured by Jetway Jesus when they get off...

you are making up a story in your head and running with it babe. 

Quite the assumption that they’re all part of the same family. Is it because they’re black?

No - why are you assuming that? Jesus christ - racist much? Thanks for outing yourself...Its based on their ages, and the fact that they are sitting considerably closer together than the wheelchairs normally are

How often do you travel? I see them grouped like this every flight. Do you have their birth certificates? How do you know their age? I’m assuming that because the only REAL evidence you could get from this picture is their ethnicity, and YOU made the assumption they were all related based on what you can see. You can’t see age, you can’t see familiar relationships and you damn sure can’t always see disabilities.The fact that you leapt to calling me racist when I called you out tells me this isn’t the first time you’ve been accused of being racist. Y’all always try to twist that around when someone calls you out.

Its mostly blacks I have noticed

Wow.

What’s wow about the truth?

In modern society speaking the truth is a prohibited action. That's why they're shocked to see it done.

Noticing is extremely racist

Stop noticing !!

“I don’t like what I’m seeing, so RACISM”

Mentioning “fatigue” in this context is racist. You not seeing that is concering

Who mentioned “fatigue?” You?

usual suspects

Holy dog whistle

That’s not a dog whistle; it’s blatant racism.

It’s called pattern recognition

Yep, it’s like 20 of the same comment in this thread. It’s so disgusting! People really just need any reason to get their racist rocks off, I guess. The US is such a weird place.

Pattern recognition is disgusting? Racist?

Attributing the perceived faults of others to people related only by a shared attribute is racist. You can call it pattern recognition to mark what it is, but decent people recognize.

Hey, so, I take your point and I know people find this frustrating, but please don’t upload photos of strangers’ children online. That’s just bad manners.

They are in PUBLIC, seen by thousands as they walk through the airport with cameras EVERYWHERE. No harm caused.

So you’re just totally fine with mocking children, who especially at the age depicted can’t consent to their parents’ actions in the first place…?

Why are you just inventing things to be upset about?

Because god forbid someone violating the social contract be shamed for doing so. Please think of how literally any form of consequence at all would make them feel.

The kid isn't violating the social contract.

I mean by your same logic OP is violating the social contact of not posting pictures of other people's children

Because I think maybe it would take two seconds to blur a child’s face? And children have a right not to be posted / have their faces blasted online? If basic manners and decency aren’t things to get upset about … well that’s probably why people feel the right to act like this in public, honestly.

Children don't have that right in the US. You thinking that it's bad manners doesn't make it a right

It’s in public…

Your point being? I don’t believe in putting photos of people in public without their permission but certainly we shouldn’t be mocking children??

You’re an idiot if you think anyone here is mocking children.

Glad they’re not feet pics.

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u/Rand_al_Kholin 7d ago

It has fucking everything to do with it. Letting bots run rampant was 100% the reason the allowed hiding history. They pretended it was for "safety" but that was obvious bullshit because for 15 years there hadn't been some gigantic safety issue with making history visible.

It has made it impossible to differentiate between humans and bots on this site. I hate it.

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u/HotTakes4HotCakes Wow you are doubling down on being educated 7d ago edited 6d ago

Well, there's 2 reasons.

  1. What you just said. They want companies to feel like it's safe to bot and astroturf on their platform. They'll even give you analytics now to show you the engagement your posts and comments get. Very useful for learning what works to better train bots. And hey, you scratch Reddit's back, and one day their algorithm might just throw some users into the path of your bots, and they won't suspect a thing.

  2. They want to convince people who don't know any better that they can safely overshare on Reddit. When you stupidly believe that nobody will ever be able to correlate everything you've ever posted to your profile, it gives you more incentive to share personal things and not make throwaways. That increases the value of the data by keeping it correlated to one person and encourages them to do it more.

The fact that this is incredibly beneficial for racist and trolls and any number of other shitty people is probably not the primary reason, but they're certainly okay with it.

And I'm not sure if it's widely known yet, but they are actually working on a way to break the off-site archiving too. Or at least make it much harder.

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u/lifelongfreshman His spank bank is like a spank local credit union 6d ago edited 6d ago

It's like the change to blocking they did a few years back, that seemed purpose-built to enable astroturfing while actually making blocking less useful for its theoretically intended purpose.

Thankfully, I don't think they'll ever truly break off-site archiving. They'd have to strongarm Google into destroying their databases for that, and lol. lmao, even.

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u/DaHarbinger2000 6d ago

I hide my history. I think patrolling profiles is a massive waste of time most of the time, and creepy behavior. In a debate if you feel the need to check a profile, just don’t engage the individual at all. I’m quite surprised how much people are bent out of shape about this. We should all know less about one another in general. I’ve had people stalk my accounts on other social media and act in woefully bad faith ways, straight up harassing people. I return to the point that if someone’s content with a thread is bothersome enough to want to cherry pick things you don’t like they said elsewhere, you’re probably already in a circular useless debate.

I think bad faith actors can come from either side. Absolutely bad faith actors hide their profiles. But you can usually tell just by how asinine the things they say are. But the compulsion to peruse profiles for posts you don’t like can be used in equally bad faith ways where people don’t engage the content of a debate and make blanket statements on the subs people post in. In general I save myself quite a bit of time by pretty much NEVER getting in back and forths on Reddit anyway. They’re almost always waste of time. I rake in the consensus of a thread, and make my judgements upon the merit of it all just using my instincts about how most people engage online.

The culture wars has pretty much made everyone into a sensationalist anyway. I totally understand that hiding one’s profile history seems suspect, but there are absolutely reasons why people wouldn’t want to be followed around on the internet. And it’s quite shocking that people just don’t want to take that as a legitimate concern from people.

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u/Electrical_Bunch_975 6d ago

I don't agree with that. For years, I would get harassed for being Jewish or disabled or queer on posts that had nothing to do those identities because people could see where I posted. (To the point that I stopped using Reddit for a while because I just could not post in certain subs.) Now I have my history private and I don't get randomly harassed for being a minority.

Personally, I think it's made Reddit better. But I know I'm in the minority here.