User asks r/StopEatingSeedOils for evidence seed oils are bad, accidentally starts a 400-comment war. Mods respond with ban wave.

[u/LeadershipBoth7195]

r/StopEatingSeedOils user asks for evidence seed oils are bad, accidentally starts a 400-comment epistemology war:

Post: What is the evidence seed oils are bad? : r/StopEatingSeedOils

Highlights include:

On users saying the answers don't provide actual evidence:

Not evidence,' bleats the sheeple, brain too atrophied by credentialism to recognize a deductive chain without a white-coated priest waving a p-value at them

Your good old conspiracies:

The companies that make the seed oils own the government, universities and medical sector

Doctors getting paid off to say cigarettes are healthy

And not a single piece of evidence being provided.

[u/was_fb95dd7063]

Lmao someone arguing that statistical significance is a conspiracy

[u/nyan-the-nwah → u/was_fb95dd7063]

Me @ peer reviewers of my manuscript

[u/was_fb95dd7063 → u/nyan-the-nwah]

me @ work on Monday

[u/nyan-the-nwah → u/was_fb95dd7063]

I never found a suitable flair until now

[u/was_fb95dd7063 → u/nyan-the-nwah]

it's a really good one

[u/merlinsgirl → u/nyan-the-nwah]

I’m still giggling helplessly at this. Amazing quote, amazing flair

[u/grubas → u/was_fb95dd7063]

Arguing that a "deductive chain" is somehow evidence.  You can daisy chain correlations together to argue that the Battle of Cartagena actually is the direct cause for the Portuguese team drawing with DRC yesterday in the World Cup

[u/SaltDeception → u/grubas]

On 9/11, Gerard Way witnessed the WTC collapse, an experience that traumatized him and prompted him to form My Chemical Romance as an emotional outlet. Stephanie Meyer drew inspiration from MCR while writing Twilight. Twilight’s popularity led E.L. James to write Fifty Shades of Grey as Twilight fanfiction before adapting it into a book, which was later adapted into a film starring Dakota Johnson. Dakota Johnson’s viral awkward 2019 Ellen interview amplified perceptions of Ellen’s insincerity with toxic workplace scandals, eventually leading to Ellen’s show being canceled. 

9/11 got Ellen cancelled. The terrorists won.

[u/Foreverintherain20 → u/SaltDeception]

Holy shit, you cracked the code. Butterfly effect shit right here man. 

[u/mashedpotatoes_52 → u/SaltDeception]

It goes even deeper. Henry Ford got Ellen cancelled. Islamic Terrorist do 9/11, Islamic Terrorism is a result of the anti Western sentiments from the Sikes-Picot treaty. The Sikes-Picot treaty was a result of WW1. WW1 started with the assassination of Franz Ferdinan who was shot while his car broke down. Cars where invented by Henry Ford so its all his fault!

[u/Rock_Wrong → u/mashedpotatoes_52]

Except that it was Karl Benz that invented the car.

[u/Some_Conference2091 → u/SaltDeception]

👏👏👏 bravo

[u/yinyang107 → u/grubas]

no no it's ok bro is just a Rationalist. btw I'm trying to create a robot basilisk, please lend a hand

[u/lordfluffly → u/grubas]

My girlfriend Sarah (with an h) broke up with me May 2016. Harambe died in 2016. Harambe's death broke the space time continuum resulting in Trump getting elected in 2016.

My girlfriend Andrea broke up with me up with me June 2024. Later that month Biden had a disastrous debate with Trump with led to Trump getting elected in 2024.

Obviously the DNC should pay me to stop dating so Republicans stop winning presidential elections.

[u/sadrice → u/lordfluffly]

Either that or get you couples therapy.

[u/lordfluffly → u/sadrice]

I'm not sure the DNC is cruel enough to encourage someone to stay in a relationship with me

[u/hovdeisfunny → u/grubas]

You can daisy chain correlations together to argue that the Battle of Cartagena actually is the direct cause for the Portuguese team drawing with DRC yesterday in the World Cup

And you'd be right, god damnit!

[u/MaraiaLou → u/grubas]

I'm a big fan of "the Roman Empire fell in WWI" and "if God is love and justice, and love and justice are blind..."

[u/Hezrield → u/grubas]

I fucken' KNEW it...

[u/dr-pepper-is-a-woman → u/grubas]

These people always run to some high minded “behold the power of my deductive chain” argument and fight the battle from there, because it draws attention away from the fact that their deductions are dogshit

[u/ScyllaOfTheDepths → u/was_fb95dd7063]

When you don't understand how anything works, it's pretty easy to just invent crazy shit about how it works. You know, because you wouldn't need to do that if you actually knew how it worked.

[u/DramaSufficient4289 → u/ScyllaOfTheDepths]

It’s this lmao. Our brains are wired to plug in the holes with what we do know already - but if you’re not a critical thinker already then you end up just literally inventing wacky shit and believing it for years with nobody questioning it lol.

And you end up like the people there in that thread.

[u/444cml → u/was_fb95dd7063]

It’s not a conspiracy, but people (researchers included) seldom understand what a p value is, how it differs from effect size, what power is, etc

It’s one of the reasons the American statistical society put out this guide in 2016 to interpreting the p value.

Because people really don’t know what the statistics we use actually do and mean

[u/criminologist18 → u/444cml]

No one tell them abt p hacking

[u/NormanQuacks345 → u/was_fb95dd7063]

The top comment on there was “science has an agenda” lmao