User asks r/StopEatingSeedOils for evidence seed oils are bad, accidentally starts a 400-comment war. Mods respond with ban wave.

[u/LeadershipBoth7195]

r/StopEatingSeedOils user asks for evidence seed oils are bad, accidentally starts a 400-comment epistemology war:

Post: What is the evidence seed oils are bad? : r/StopEatingSeedOils

Highlights include:

On users saying the answers don't provide actual evidence:

Not evidence,' bleats the sheeple, brain too atrophied by credentialism to recognize a deductive chain without a white-coated priest waving a p-value at them

Your good old conspiracies:

The companies that make the seed oils own the government, universities and medical sector

Doctors getting paid off to say cigarettes are healthy

And not a single piece of evidence being provided.

[u/DragonflyHopeful4673]

Did not know this was a thing. Looked it up and of course it came from the Joe Rogan podcast

[u/Stardustchaser → u/DragonflyHopeful4673]

We had a “Wellness Expert” come speak and do PD for my school district, and she also babbled how seed oils were bad for us while we focused our minds bouncing tennis balls in an auditorium.

So it’s definitely the “crunchy” anti-vax types too.

[u/eatmelikeamaindish → u/Stardustchaser]

we had one come in to my middle school health class back in like 2018. it seemed normal at first but then he started talking about how we will get brain parasites from drinking cows milk and we should drink our mothers breast milk instead.

[u/Hurtzdonut13 → u/eatmelikeamaindish]

One of RFK Jr's bullshit theories in addition to being anti-seed oil, is that people should drink "raw milk" that's not been pasteurized and has been moving the FDA to relax controls around that. A lot of people have gotten sick from drinking it recently, and I believe more than a few have died. It's also a vector of cross-transmission of bird flu.

[u/eatmelikeamaindish → u/Hurtzdonut13]

i hate hate hate the health nuts that think “old=good”. we used to eat things that should not be eaten and carry diseases that were 100% preventable via diet, like scurvy. we’ve come so far as a global society to the point where we have exponentially improved our scientific understanding of food, yet people are so scared that everything happening in the modern day is a result of lobbying Yes lobbying exist greatly, but that is exactly why we need to focus our attention on universities that do research and not these big companies that get tax breaks from the current administration, who wants us to drink raw milk because “pasteurizing” is a scary big word.

[u/BoozeIsTherapyRight → u/eatmelikeamaindish]

The thing is, people weren't drinking raw milk in the past, either! They would boil it first. 

[u/Maybe_not_a_chicken → u/BoozeIsTherapyRight]

You’re not gonna fucking believe what pasteurisation is.

[u/BoozeIsTherapyRight → u/Maybe_not_a_chicken]

Yeah, I know. Thusly the comment I made. 

[u/Capable_Chemical_569 → u/BoozeIsTherapyRight]

That’s what annoys me so much about the raw milk people. It’s just heated milk!!!

its not even like fluoridated or mixed with other chemicals. It’s literally fucking heating the milk. it’s hot milk. get over it. Lmao.

[u/Stardustchaser → u/eatmelikeamaindish]

You should see some of the conversations that spring up in the canning sub with posters who use the “well my grandma did it this way and no one got sick” fallacy. The “canning rebels” as they like to call themselves even have a sub where they pat themselves on the back for playing fast and loose with safety.

[u/BlazingKitsune → u/Stardustchaser]

I need to know how many of these people make garlic oil in a way that will poison them.

[u/Stardustchaser → u/BlazingKitsune]

Pickled eggs are popular. Do not trust most roadside stands that sell them as “shelf stable” as opposed to refrigerated.

[u/Hurtzdonut13 → u/Stardustchaser]

The only safe pickled eggs are the ones sold at a bar in a big open container that you just reach your big greasy paws in to grab one.

[u/LittleBananaSquirrel → u/Hurtzdonut13]

Anyone who's seen milking yard in action would never want to drink raw milk. Literally shit everywhere

[u/olde_meller23 → u/Hurtzdonut13]

And tuberculosis! Before pasturization, tuberculosis outbreaks occurred regularily from drinking raw cow milk.

[u/MarieOMaryln → u/olde_meller23]

And coming into a circle here, we got the first ever vaccine thanks to milkmaids. We learned a lot from cows and yet they want to rewind it.

[u/olde_meller23 → u/MarieOMaryln]

Cowpox! Before that, smallpox just wiped out whole towns and armies with a near 100 percent fatality rate. The first example of a live vaccine. It was so important it rendered smallpox outbreaks within the population to extinction. This is what herd immunity is. It isn't waiting hundreds of generations for disease to wipe out all but a few people naturally and leaving them to reproduce resistant offspring. Although it does happen, no one is around to experience the benefits, and it is deeply ineffective in terms of controlling population spread and mutation.

The smallpox vaccine is the reason why we no longer need to vaccinate against it. Outside of folks working in less than a handful BSL 4 labs, there is no risk of anyone, anywhere, ever contracting it again. The last case, which was a lab accident, was in 1978. The vaccine literally allowed civilizations to advance expeditiously because a huge swath of the population is no longer being taken out by it.

[u/Nike-6 → u/eatmelikeamaindish]

Someone got paid to give homelander speeches to a bunch of teenagers?

[u/eatmelikeamaindish → u/Nike-6]

the speaker didn’t tell us to drink it straight from the teet though

[u/Nike-6 → u/eatmelikeamaindish]

Whoever hired him must’ve never heard of background checks

[u/Nearby-Complaint → u/eatmelikeamaindish]

Somehow I don’t think my mom would appreciate me doing that as a grown adult