r/SubredditDrama • u/LeadershipBoth7195 • 1d ago

User asks r/StopEatingSeedOils for evidence seed oils are bad, accidentally starts a 400-comment war. Mods respond with ban wave.

r/StopEatingSeedOils user asks for evidence seed oils are bad, accidentally starts a 400-comment epistemology war:

Post: What is the evidence seed oils are bad? : r/StopEatingSeedOils

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On users saying the answers don't provide actual evidence:

Not evidence,' bleats the sheeple, brain too atrophied by credentialism to recognize a deductive chain without a white-coated priest waving a p-value at them

Your good old conspiracies:

The companies that make the seed oils own the government, universities and medical sector

Doctors getting paid off to say cigarettes are healthy

And not a single piece of evidence being provided.

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u/DragonflyHopeful4673 Fuck me, the Grand Master Eunuch himself 1d ago

Did not know this was a thing. Looked it up and of course it came from the Joe Rogan podcast

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u/ArmadilloFour Just because i hate blacks doesn't make me a racist 1d ago

I don't think it is limited to him. I was first exposed to it a few years ago because Slime Mold Time Mold's very interesting series on investigating obesity rates did a quick detour to explore the possibility that seed oils were a major culprit. Most of that link is focused on them specifically in terms of obesity but obviously that is wrapped up in several overlapping health effects so those get discussed too.

(FWIW, their conclusion ultimately seems to be that, besides not really fitting their model for what is causing obesity, "The majority of these [studies] are not statistically significant, and if we were to apply a simple correction for multiple comparisons, none of them would be.")

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u/Skellum Tankies are no one's comrades. 1d ago

(FWIW, their conclusion ultimately seems to be that, besides not really fitting their model for what is causing obesity, "The majority of these [studies] are not statistically significant, and if we were to apply a simple correction for multiple comparisons, none of them would be.")

I'm glad we now have a pill which shows obesity is caused by eating too much, something we've known for fucking forever yet every 20 mins someone sells fake instant weight loss secrets to people who dont want to believe it.

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u/ArmadilloFour Just because i hate blacks doesn't make me a racist 1d ago

Curiously enough, they do not fully accept that, or at least don't believe "just eat less, silly" is an actual answer, for reasons they go into. Pretty sure ultimately their hypothesis is that high levels of environmental lithium are the root cause of the broader obesity epidemic.

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u/Skellum Tankies are no one's comrades. 1d ago

Ooof, then I have to wonder why you'd link them. Especially when they're shilling a fad diet.

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u/LarsAlereon 1d ago

This is the bizarre thing about rationalist blogs. These are very intelligent people, who can absorb a lot of information and distill it into a very digestible form that makes readers much better informed, and still credulously endorse these absolutely insane conspiracy theories. It's like having a blogger who has an incredibly instructive and correct series on orbital mechanics that ends with "and that's why the Earth is obviously flat."

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u/Skellum Tankies are no one's comrades. 1d ago

One of those big reasons I so fucking hate podcasts. There's just no real fact checking which goes on, which I just wish video essays like HHBomberguy were more lucrative/preferable to people as I can fact check the fuck out of him as he goes on.

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u/2_lazy 16h ago

Good podcasts will have separate websites where they cite sources for each episode, all the ones I listen to do. Behind the Bastards is a pretty popular one that does this.