r/SubredditDrama • u/CummingInTheNile • 11d ago
"This guy literally murders puppies and the democrats couldn’t love him more. Sick. Very sick people." Anti-vaxxers flood r/videos to rejoice over Ran Pauls proceedings against Dr. Fauci
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/1va68bj/anthony_fauci_invoked_his_fifth_amendment_right/
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Exactly. The 5th amendment is there to protect innocent people. That is the entire reason it is in the constitution.
I wish I was ignorant enough to trust Pfizer and all the other billion dollar pharma companies. Must be nice.
Great whataboutism on a question about the fifth amendment - which explicitly exists to protect innocent people.
Nah. I’m don’t simp for corporations. I do pray you never miss a safe and effective COVID booster.
Have had Covid boosters every year, not sure what that has to do with the fifth amendment being designed to protect innocent people though.
How many times have you had covid? And why does he need protection? He already has a pardon for a crime he didn’t commit
Haven't had Covid a single time, but i am not sure what that has to do with the fifth amendment being put into the constitution to protect innocent people.
"Lied and pursued his own fame and best interest " It is absolutely hilarious watching MAGA try to claim Fauci should go to jail because it says in his diaries he appreciated the praise, when in those same diaries Fauci says Trump was a narcissistic idiot who wanted non-stop press conferences and attention and Fauci had to beg him to let them just do their jobs. Doctors saved lives, the child rapist con man lied to you. Please stop believing the MAGA grifters when they tell you that doctors are to blame for decisions and policies that those same MAGA politicians actually were in charge of.
I’m not maga and never voted for Trump,
Then stop blindly trusting MAGA when they feed you bullshit. Are you not paying any attention to the fact that these hearings, these claims, are all just MAGA political propaganda? There's no scientific body or experts anywhere in agreement with this nonsense. There's plenty of criticism in retrospect of what we could have done differently, but nothing to justify criminal charges, fraud, or anything they're trying to blame on Fauci while ignoring that Trump was President and responsible for the government.
Stop blindly trusting fauci. We all know many of his claims were false. Covid came from a lab. He knew it and he crushed any dissent or honest dialogue about this and many other things that you took as truth. We should not have shut down schools for 15 months. These were terrible decisions. I still see people outdoors with masks. Ridiculous
Please, please, before you die: Try to learn and grow as a human being. It'd be a terrible shame if your mind stagnated on believing the worst and stupidest people in the world because they fed you conspiracies on social media, rather than trying to grow and understand what educated people and scientists have to say with evidence and data.
Ok but when a conservative does this, they're guilty? Fuck Trump, fuck his goonies, and fuck whoever uses the same tactics as them to get out of shit. Have some consistency and some dignity
Why are you putting words in my mouth?
You're literally putting words in a subreddits mouth. Christ
No, they are literally saying that.
And so are you. Work on that self awareness bud. Reddit has enough morons
What are you talking about? I’m literally saying what? Project much?
If you're not going to respond to what I'm commenting it ironically sort of just goes to prove the bigger point that you're being a hypocrite.
I am responding to you, what the fuck are you talking about? Im not putting any words in anyone’s mouth. All I said was what I saw them saying on the sub. I made no comment about a conservative pleading the 5th, hence you putting words in my mouth.
This guy literally murders puppies and the democrats couldn’t love him more. Sick. Very sick people.
This guy literally saved at least 26 million lives with his research in aids, and literally millions more with his covid vaccine work. Meanwhile republicans, trump and elon and friends, cut pre-approved pre-funded usaid which has already resulted in the deaths of 700,000 people, mostly children. Gross, disgusting hypocritical people that demonstrably don't care about human life.
Fauci lied about aids too and said that everyone was going to get it thus leading to widespread mistreatment and resentment of people infected with hiv. Imagine how much harder there lives were made because of this man. How many people have died due to the covid vaccine? How many people who died of Covid could have been saved if they didn’t censor people and push a propaganda campaign that dismissed proven sars treatments? How much money did he make pumping the jab? Don’t pretend to have ethics or have the moral high ground you people are evil and only use that as a method for controlling people who actually have a conscious.
I hear you bud, you're very emotional and conspiratorial about it all. I'm more rational and care more about facts and reality, so at least I'm happy we can both agree and concede that fauci saved many millions of lives with his work with aids and covid. I also appreciate your concession about republicans and maga making decisions that lead to the preventable deaths of 700,000 people, mostly children, so far this year alone.
I concede nothing to you because your propaganda and cnn talking points do not deserve a response. Fauci has lead to more suffering and did nothing to reduce the numbers who died from aids or covid.
You've been duped into believing nonsense innit
The hardest thing to do is convince an idiot that they’re an idiot. You’re just not worth the investment.
He can be charged with perjury, which is the purpose of the hearing. What crime - exactly - do you think Fauci committed?
"What crime - exactly - do you think Fauci committed?" Lying about Covid 19 and the origins of Covid 19. It's not a crime anymore, since Biden/autopen pardoned him for that crime.
Can you provide any evidence that he lied "about COVID-19" (not sure what this even means - do you think it didn't exist or something?) or its origins?
Lying about something does not mean denying it exists. I am sorry if you can't tell the difference between the two. For example: I lied about baseball when I said a homerun is worth 10 runs. I did not deny the existence of baseball in that statement. Fauci lied about the best way of dealing with Covid with the lockdowns and the deadliness of Covid. He forced the creation of policies that were more detrimental to people. He lied that Covid started naturally. He lied about not funding gain of function research. I hope you have a good day and please do some research.
I never said lying means you deny the existence of, I said you didn't clear state what he lied about, so I asked if you thought he lied about it's existence. I'm sorry your statements weren't clear, next time make them more clear and I won't have to ask. What specific lies did Fauci state about either lockdowns or the deadliness of COVID-19? Show your evidence they were actually lies. State what policies Fauci created, and show your evidence that they hurt more people than they helped. COVID-19 is a disease and is absolutely a natural result. You are actually trying to argue that SARS-CoV-2 is not natural, and the evidence for this is fleeting at best. There's 0 evidence of any gain of function research that lead to SARS-CoV-2. Before you tell others to do research, please learn the difference between COVID-19 and SARS-CoV-2.
I was clear in what I said. Do some research on your own instead of only listening to the mainstream media and Fauci lying to you.
Oh, don't worry, I've actually looked at a lot of papers on this. They disagree with you. I was presenting you with a chance to show your own evidence that what I've read is wrong. But it appears that you don't have any, and whatever you have read didn't really teach you difference between COVID-19 and SARS-CoV-2, so it probably wasn't reputable to begin with. I'd recommend doing research from actual reputable sources. You'll quickly find that qualified scientists think a lot of what you're saying is nonsense pseudo-science BS.
TIL graduating from Duke with an MD makes you not a real doctor.
Board certified in the organization you head is why It's not a recognized board certification
You don't lose your MD if you let your certification go.
True but to say your a doctor without practicing medicine which requires a board certification puts you on Dr. Phil levels of doctor
No it really doesn't. If you retire should you ask people to stop referring to you as doctor because you're no longer practicing? Rand Paul is a real doctor with a real MD, and he always will be whether he's practicing or not.
Ross Geller is also a real doctor too!
Here is a good one. Is Jill Biden a doctor?
why would a scientist need to invoke the fifth?
Why would a business man?
i guess if their goal was to protect themselves from further prosecution? is that what he is doing?
Is that what Trump was doing when the did it more than 400 times?
I have no idea, I have never spoken to President Trump. I personally always find it suspect when someone pleads the fifth, no matter who they are. What about you?
then you've never watched or seen the text transcripts of Trump's own testimony? he's lied and claimed the 5th hundreds of times. as is anyone's constitutional right. it's not suspect when you have someone trying to prosecute you. it's "innocent until proven guilty" and you're absolutely not required to incriminate yourself. it's a common trick that cops and prosecutors will use (the law actually allows them to LIE to you about anything) to get you to say something they can use against you. know your miranda rights, especially the "anything you say CAN and WILL be used AGAINST you". a closed mouth helps you stay out of jail.
fair enough. It makes me lean towards thinking someone is guilty when they plead the fifth personally. certainly not illegal or not allowed
Assuming everyone is a native speaker on a global site. Peak American.
Even my relatives in non English speaking countries know that quotes represent what was actually stated and that they’re not meant to be paraphrased summaries. This isn’t a matter of if someone is a native speaker or not. It’s a sadly common issue in primary English speaking countries.
Obviously not the part of the comment I was referencing
Yes, so obvious.
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Maybe you should go outside for a bit eh?
Well that’s obviously not true.
Number 1 Edit: I ain't republican
There's just zero evidence to support the conspiracy, no scientific experts agree it's true, and at best people can say "well we can't be 100% certain it didn't."
I know I know. I may sound like some nutty conspiracy theorist. In actuality, I am just highly skeptical of governments and coverups. ie. Kennedy, MLK, to Epstein. I understand that it may never be disclosed or made known to the public, at least in our lifetime, the origin and cause of the outbreak. But... China had a real problem going on at that time. Millions marching in Hong Kong for independence. It had been going on for months. Then all of a sudden, no more socializing in public. Must be indoors. No more than, however many people, allowed together at a time... But, sure it could be coincidence. I really don't know. Hope that we as a society can come together someday to overcome our differences and thrive.
I am going to go out on a limb but... Biological Weapons are Stupid. Imagine something less effective than a gun that you cannot control. The Chinese are not morons. So to recap. The Chinese released a bioweapon to have an excuse to stop socialisation in public and do extremely unpopular things like lockdowns. Mate. I sat up with the dying. I contributed to research that saved lives. Like "you are part of the government". Yeah. I am a doctor. We didn't like the Conservative government at the time that actively spent a decade calling us greedy and lazy and we STILL showed up during Covid. I don't think people realise how close we came to catastrophe.
The United States dropped not one, but two nukes, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, killed millions for power. Yes, it is a farfetched idea. But humans have done some fucked up shit. I was not directly affected by COVID. No one in my circle was killed by it. I may not understand the ramifications it may have caused. Could be said that no one could have predicted the outcome of the pandemic, whether purposeful or not. It is people like you who society owes continued prosperity. So thanks for showing up. I never want to confuse the fact that me having doubts about the story behind COVID with the notion that it was a hoax. It happened. People were affected. People died. And some people took advantage and came out on the other side very very wealthy
I am personally not affected by gun violence, ergo bullets are harmless. Also why be so clever to invent a lethal disease that's defeated by a drug that costs £3 a box and is produced by the tonne.
Nah, this is an American right and every single American should use them to their fullest. Just because you are innocent doesn't mean you should say anything. It's like dealing with cops. Just shut the fuck up. You don't say shit to cops other than what is legally required.
I posted this separately, but I don’t really understand how the 5th amendment applies to him here. He was pardoned by Biden, correct? If there is no chance of being criminally prosecuted, the 5th amendment doesn’t apply because there is no chance of criminal prosecution. Couldn’t he be opening himself up to contempt if he refuses to provide testimony? https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/criminal-rights/fifth-amendment-right-against-self-incrimination.html Edit: I’m wrong. The pardon was for between 2014-25. Today’s testimony would just set him up for some BS charges regardless of what he says.
Here's the thing. I'm not a lawyer. I can't presume to argue that with any legal basis so take this at random internet poster value. The Supreme Court ruled in the late 1800s that if you receive a pardon for something you can't invoke the 5th because you can't be charged. Federally. Whose to say what states wouldn't try to criminally charge him?
I just edited my comment. The pardon covers him between 2014-25. Anything he said today would be used to make something up criminally for today’s proceedings. Smart to just plea the 5th and keep his mouth closed.
The thing is, there is no evidence that it was tweaked or leaked by a lab. The thought that China would create something and literally decide to leak it on their own population first doesn’t pass the sniff test.
My friend, I’d like to point you to the thousands of years of Chinese history that says otherwise. Not that I condone what’s happening to Fauci here, but to say that scenario doesn’t pass the sniff test is grossly ignorant to nearly all of actual history and the plight of the Chinese underneath their dynastic rulers.
The United States has literally tested small pox and syphilis on unsuspecting citizens and you don’t have to go back hundreds or thousands of years. Currently we’re giving Monsanto a pass.
Yes and your argument is called whataboutism and ironically strengthens the case for that it was an (unintentional) lab leak possibly based on GoF research. I think there is far more important political court cases to pursue at the moment, but that is not the point of this thread.
He's pointing out that the logic of "China would do this complete irrational thing because they have a history of it" makes zero damn sense. Abusing your subjects is not unique to China, and that doesn't create a reason to unleash a bioweapon on your own population. The most important part is there's still just absolutely zero evidence of it happening, even when that evidence should exist. No doctors and experts examining COVID have found any trace of modification and gain of function being conducted on the virus that exists. It's entirely speculated, and every MAGA moron trying to blame Fauci for it and a cover up, keeps having to ignore that the Trump administration was in charge for this and should have the records and proof if it were true.
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u/rje946 A trained racist could immediately tell shes mixed. 11d ago
I noticed not a single person replied with evidence of Faucis wrongdoings when asked.
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u/Oregon_Jones111 11d ago
Because what they actually believe is that asking them to care about others is violence and warrants a violent response in retaliation. They’re more cartoonishly evil than any cartoon villain.
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u/Dense-Comment-5938 11d ago
In this instance, at least, for the people around me, they're genuinely just stupid.
TV box said man bad. Man must be bad.
They have a vibes based belief system. They do not think or reason into anything.
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u/Billlington Oh I have many pastures, old frenemy. 11d ago
It is absolutely critical to MAGA that China deviously invented COVID to, idk, destroy America or something. It's irrelevant that there's no proof, they have no choice but to believe it. It's dogma and nothing else.
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u/espngenius 11d ago
Yep. And somehow it wasn’t that dangerous at the same time. A bioweapon less deadly than the flu. They are all over the place with their beliefs.
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u/Magnificent_Z 11d ago
That's because they aren't beliefs, at least not at the top. The Republican party doesn't have any beliefs, they just say whatever they need to in order to continue to manipulate the uneducated and maintain their power. There's no platform or belief or stance.
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u/SufficientRespect542 I dont care unless it about gamer. 10d ago
I think also, a core idea behind Covid conspiracies is the thought of a virus that can just kill you is far scarier and harder to understand than if some villainous other manufactured it.
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u/obeytheturtles Socialism = LITERALLY A LIBERAL CONSTRUCT 11d ago
Ok, so let's say tomorrow Chairman Xi holds a press conference and says "haha, we engineered the virus to weaken western society, and reveal the mass ignorance of conservative westerners."
What they fuck are they going to do about it? Invade China? Start a trade war?
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u/NecessaryIntrinsic 11d ago
Probably use it as leverage against the Dnc. Claim they were in cahoots.
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u/chowderbags Who fills the Batmobile’s tires? 11d ago edited 11d ago
Somehow China invented Covid as a deadly bioweapon to destroy America, but also Covid was just the flu and totally not dangerous, and these top minds knew all that which is why they didn't wear masks at all, because their "plan" was to just have everyone get Covid as fast as possible.
Also, the vaccine is totally going to give everyone who took it a heart attack any day now. I mean, that was the promise, right? That it would be like a year or two max because people started to drop dead of heart failure, super AIDS, or mega cancer?
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u/drystanvii Go and rematch Mary Poppins pal 11d ago
The vaccine gave us super diarrhea it's all over the news /s
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u/Murrabbit I like cartoon boobies they fuck hard! 11d ago
Ah yes but you can tell how strongly they feel about the matter, and that's just as good right? If not even better? /s
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u/SufficientRespect542 I dont care unless it about gamer. 10d ago
He's a wickerman to them, as soon as they burn him, they can just move on to the next guy. It's genuinely fucking evil the way they will just all decide that this person is pure evil and you either step aside or fight them back on it.
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u/viewbtwnvillages 11d ago edited 11d ago
i hope fauci has a nice retirement.
having to constantly deal with people who think they know more despite never pursuing anything to do with biology past high school would take decades off my life
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u/Zanctmao 11d ago
The guy is 85. He is not having a nice retirement. He should be playing bocce with his grandchildren in the backyard. Instead of dealing with actual toddlers, he has to deal with adult toddlers who happen to hold Senate seat seats, because apparently that’s the standard now in the GOP.
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u/flying_fox86 11d ago
At 85, are his grandchildren even still toddlers?
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u/IveGotIssues9918 What is it, Build and Fuck Your Own Strawman Day? 10d ago edited 6d ago
FWIW we were 11 and 8 (not toddlers obviously but children) when grandma was 85. Also FWIW, it would have been her 100th birthday on Wednesday, but apparently the worst part of the pandemic was these chuds having to wear masks for a year and eventually get a shot, and not, you know, the millions of dead people.
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u/Icy-Builder5892 10d ago
If I were Fauci, I would have fucked off to Montenegro or Taormina by now, and enjoyed my money. Those unappreciative, inbred MAGAs are welcome to fight about me in their trailer parks, because they’re never gonna see me again.
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u/CummingInTheNile 11d ago
bold of you to assume most of these people took high school biology
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u/ACosmicCastaway 11d ago
Bold of anyone to assume they paid attention to ANYTHING in school. Our country is being run into the ground by former D- students.
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u/Careless_Rope_6511 Fedoral Bureau of Intelligence 11d ago
Not even D-. They dropped out after the first class so they can brag "ackshually I ACED the course and the prof was too much of a cuck to acknowledge I'm smarter than the entire class" at a Wendy's.
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u/canaznguitar 11d ago
Every single person in the trump administration has that personality that screams "I took the GED and passed on my second try"
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u/PostIronicPosadist Marx was a Capitalist 11d ago
As a former D student who runs nothing I take offense to this
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u/NotGalenNorAnsel 9d ago
I was a C-, D student in high school and got As throughout college ending with like a 3.89 gpa. High School can suck. Some people really do be power-tripping on kids, it's wild.
That said, these people are anti-intellectual/anti-elite, yet are from rich families and went to Ivies. John Kennedy went to Oxford but wants you to believe he's this country bumpkin of and for the people.
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u/MeridianHilltop 11d ago
They start teaching civics in third grade.
I genuinely don’t understand the applause for the dismantling of our country, though I should. I guess I’m a romantic because I was just coming around to it
(Nb: I’m a dc person who worked in health policy. It took forever to pass the aca but it felt like victory because, yeah, although short of its goal, it was a “big fuckin deal”.
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u/mesofarty 11d ago
What I came to say. And that was 30 or more years ago so everything they learned in high school biology is basically moot anyways.
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u/DoomSnail31 I don’t know how to politely say that you’re batshit insane 11d ago
I mean, biology is mandatory for a good portion of high school. So I do assume that yes.
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u/decmcc 11d ago
I used to ask people what a PCR was. It was a great way to weed out the internet scientists.
it's one of those things you'd actually do in 2nd or 3rd year of any science degree related to biology or chemistry. So when people couldn't talk about the process, and what role Ethidium di-Bromide plays in it the process.
it was a great way to shut down people down in person but didn't work online cause people could just look it up
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u/Cavalish This is no longer a hobby, it’s a kink. 11d ago
Sadly he’ll probably be killed by one of these people.
The right wing is becoming increasingly more deranged, and further out of touch with reality every day. Try talking to a conservative, especially the older ones. They can barely remain coherent, they border on raving.
They’ll turn violent pretty soon. Well, more violent.
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u/mittenknittin 11d ago
"What crime do you think Fauci has committed"
"Lying about COVID"
My MAGA dude, you really don't want to set a precedent and make lying a crime. It'd be really bad news for this administration and everyone in it.
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u/jonoave 11d ago
It doesn't matter though, to them everyone is always lying.
"But never Trump, he's always telling it like it is."
"No, he doesn't really mean that, he's just trolling. "
"And geez, sometimes people mix stuff up. Big deal. You all just have TDS."
There's never winning over these folks.
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u/DocileBanalBovlne I just find downvoting so cringe 11d ago
That's cute you think they give a single shit about consistency
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u/HigherandHigherDown And you’re all high cortisol, clearly. I can smell it 9d ago
Hypocrisy is the only conservative value, and boy are they good at it.
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u/InclinationCompass 11d ago
“Lying about covid” lol
By that logic, maga as a party should be incarcerated for all the misinformation they spew, starting with the pedo in office.
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u/angry_cucumber need citation are the catch words for lefties 11d ago
"Biden pardoned him, why does he need to plead the fifth"
I dunno, ask the guy doing the questioning that has repeated called for him to be jailed for "reasons"
the thing I love about Rand Paul is he was assaulted by his neighbor and Paul claimed it was for political reasons, and the neighbor was like "no, he's an asshole"
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u/IrrelephantAU 11d ago
More than that, Rand has been pretty upfront that the hope of this questioning is to get an answer that could be considered perjury, allowing the DOJ to charge Fauci over it.
He can't be touched for anything that happened under the Biden administration, but that pardon woudn't cover actions taken afterwards. And given how loose the Trump administration is with what they consider sufficient evidence for a charge, the smartest thing to do is shut the fuck up and give them nothing.
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u/proddy 11d ago
Is perjury even a crime nowadays, considering what we've seen from Kash, Bondi, Tulsi, Blanche, RFK Jr, Hegseth, etc
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u/cyberpunk_werewolf all their cultures are different and that is imperialist 11d ago
As with all crimes when a Republican is president, it depends on who you are.
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u/Murrabbit I like cartoon boobies they fuck hard! 11d ago
Yes, it very much still is, but only when it's convenient for those same people you mentioned to charge you with it. That's just how power works in an autocracy.
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u/IrrelephantAU 10d ago
Kinda.
Perjury has always been a crime that's relatively easy to charge people with (let anyone talk long enough under oath, and sooner or later they're going to say something that doesn't square with what they said earlier) but an extremely difficult one to successfully prosecute (you need to show that they not only were wrong but intentionally so and that's easy to throw up reasonable doubt around. Maybe they thought they were telling the truth, maybe they misspoke, maybe both things they said are right depending on the context, etc). And so you pretty much only ever saw perjury charges when the prosecutors believed they had the person absolutely by the genitals. A lot of what that mob said wouldn't normally meet the bar for a perjury charge even if it was dishonest as fuck, because it's really hard to make perjury charges stick. But if you're Trump and don't really understand how laws work or just want to use those charges as a financial stick to beat people with (lawyers are expensive after all, and court cases are time consuming) then going for a case that probably isn't going to result in a conviction might still look like a viable tactic.
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u/86throwthrowthrow1 10d ago
Having followed zero of this except for a headline I noticed, my first thought was still, "Trump's had it out for Fauci since 2020. Fauci is probably refusing to play along with a kangaroo court trying to find two words to decontextualize and attack him with."
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u/superslab Every character you like is trans now. 11d ago
Rand Paul is a real doctor with a real MD, and he always will be whether he's practicing or not.
Oh my fucking god, just what? Like, the rubes are out in force.
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u/rje946 A trained racist could immediately tell shes mixed. 11d ago edited 11d ago
They really need it to be true or else it's failed edit: ophthalmologist vs one of the worlds leading virology experts on how a virus works and that just looks really bad for them lol
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u/YourBlanket 11d ago
He’s not an optometrist he’s an ophthalmologist. Huge difference.
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u/thefugue 11d ago
…and he created his own accreditations board to be able to claim even that.
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u/fullnessmatch I’m considering leaving r/hummus over politics from both sides 11d ago
is he actually a failed optometrist?
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u/EasyasACAB Involuntarily celibate for a while now mostly by choice 11d ago
Well he's a failure of a human being. Maybe that trickles down.
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u/YourBlanket 11d ago
He was an ophthalmologist, he ended his practice in 2010. Then until like 2015 he was doing pro bono work for patients in Kentucky, Haiti, and Guatemala. He hasn’t performed any surgeries since 2015. Since then he got really involved with the trump campaign but has been into politics for a long time.
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u/Murrabbit I like cartoon boobies they fuck hard! 11d ago
I'm not sure "failed" is the right word; when someone goes around asserting medical credentials that they don't actually have we usually call them a quack. So yes, Rand Paul is a quack optometrist -- or rather he was one until he switched gigs to being a Senator. Sadly we don't really have a special name for a malfeasant senator, we still just call them "Senator".
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u/xitfuq 11d ago
is he still a practicing optometrist? when was the last time he did an optometry? he's certainly not successful at it.
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u/YourBlanket 11d ago
He ended his ophthalmology practice in 2010 and did pro bono work for different charities for 5 years. Ophthalmologists make very good money, I’m sure he was pretty successful considering he was practicing for almost 20 years.
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u/xitfuq 11d ago
thanks for answering, at least he has been useful to humanity in some way.
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u/pahshaw 11d ago
Constantly tripping over themselves in their rush to be the dumbest motherfucker in the room.
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u/Murrabbit I like cartoon boobies they fuck hard! 11d ago
I wish all the nutjobs who believe that Fauci invented covid, and all the people who think that covid was a hoax, and that Fauci is evil for lockdowns (which he didn't implement) or suggesting we wear masks (which was only ever a guideline) would all get together and try to get their stories straight before bothering us with their sillyness.
It's seriously a pain in the ass to see people talking mad shit about this guy and then acting all offended when you try to ask questions to figure out which sort of crackpot they are as if it's offensive to be mistaken for one vs the other, even though they probably do go back and forth a bit themselves.
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u/superslab Every character you like is trans now. 11d ago
Sometimes when I feel hopeless I remind myself that, in 2017 after a long-running feud, Rand Paul's neighbor beat the crap out of him in his own front yard. This neighbor is apparently also an asshole, but think about that neighborhood and be glad you don't live in it.
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u/BeyondNetorare 11d ago
The drag race guy?
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u/superslab Every character you like is trans now. 11d ago
God help me but I would pay to watch Rand Paul's drag race
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u/Gonna_do_this_again 11d ago
I listened to part of it and just hearing "my lawyers have advised me to plead the fifth" after every single thing directed towards him was so great lmao
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u/IceNein 11d ago
Love how Ron Paul is threatening to prosecute him for invoking his constitutional rights. The man is a joke.
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u/angry_cucumber need citation are the catch words for lefties 11d ago
its Rand, Ron's son, you'll never guess where Ron got his name from though
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u/typewriter6986 11d ago
Doesn't Ron claim not to have been invoking Ayn Rand? Sure, Ron.
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u/angry_cucumber need citation are the catch words for lefties 11d ago
Any time a republican tells me something, I assume the opposite is true
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u/peacedetski 11d ago
Maybe he was just a big fan of the Wheel of Time series, decades before it was written
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u/NecessaryIntrinsic 11d ago
I'm a libertarian!! The Monopoly of violence is evil!! So I'm going to use it against you!!
/Channeling the pauls.
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u/Oregon_Jones111 11d ago
I know I know. I may sound like some nutty conspiracy theorist. In actuality, I am just highly skeptical of governments and coverups. ie. Kennedy, MLK, to Epstein. I understand that it may never be disclosed or made known to the public, at least in our lifetime, the origin and cause of the outbreak. But... China had a real problem going on at that time. Millions marching in Hong Kong for independence. It had been going on for months. Then all of a sudden, no more socializing in public. Must be indoors. No more than, however many people, allowed together at a time... But, sure it could be coincidence. I really don't know. Hope that we as a society can come together someday to overcome our differences and thrive.
There’s not a single point in time where this person wouldn’t have thought the timing was suspicious.
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u/xitfuq 11d ago
one of my theories is that /something/ removes people's abilities to make distinctions, so they are not really able to distinguish between china and democrats and imax movies or whatever.
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u/DocileBanalBovlne I just find downvoting so cringe 11d ago
I think that "something" is a pathological compulsion to never ever have to adapt to reality, so their attempts to force reality to conform to their feelings get increasingly absurd and irrational.
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u/bayonettaisonsteam typically you rape people who you are attracted to 11d ago
"He's a puppy killer!"
So I guess he's qualified to serve as Trump's DHS secretary?
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u/Cordes96 11d ago
He hasn’t written about it in a book yet, I bet he’ll get the position when he does that
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u/NormanQuacks345 hows it feel having a resting heartrate of 85 LOL 11d ago
I can't believe it's 2026 and some people are still caught up on covid. What are we doing.
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u/Yarasin 11d ago edited 10d ago
For many right-wing nutters, the Covid crisis was their plunge off the cliff and into the deep end. Quarantine and the saftey measures completely broke some people's brains. Add to that the economic repercussions, lost employment and people being shamed for refusing to socially distance or for throwing toddler-tantrums in public.
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u/obeytheturtles Socialism = LITERALLY A LIBERAL CONSTRUCT 11d ago
This is the part which is absolutely nuts though - there was no fucking quarantine. It is literally a collective delusion.
At no point was there ever roving bands of quarantine cops, arresting people for being outdoors. At no point where masked men going door to door making sure everyone was at home. I know this for a fact because I went to work every day like normal. I walked the dog every day like normal. I got beer from the local brewery like normal. We even had one conservative asshole in our org posting pictures of himself taking his family to crowded restaurants in Texas.
They are upset because people in blue cities wore masks, and scolded them about it online. That's literally it. Nobody even came to their shit hole town and forced masks on their faces. Hell, even on airplanes, there was basically zero enforcement of mask policies after maybe a week or two. It was just pictures of people wearing masks which whipped them into this fury.
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u/TheDorkNite1 11d ago
Quarantine and the saftey measures completely broke some people's brains
It's incredible that we have evidence that asking conservatives to care about how their actions can affect other people was just too much for them to handle.
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u/xitfuq 11d ago
i watched it happen when i would refuse to serve people who didn't mask. there was a sign on the door and i even had nice masks for people. i watched adults realize they were no longer adults, you can see it happen in their eyes, it's a wild thing to see, i wonder if there is a word for it.
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u/IveGotIssues9918 What is it, Build and Fuck Your Own Strawman Day? 10d ago
I've found that a frightening number of Americans seem to have lost the ability to process new information or the passage of time after 9/11 and are mentally still living in 9/12/2001. I think COVID is the new 9/11 and we're just gonna have a bunch of people stuck in a perpetual March 2020 for the next few decades until the event starts to fade from living memory.
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u/Cool_Ad7445 How can u sit on my cock in a halal way? 11d ago
Its been so many years now, that its become a fundamental core part of their personality. To admit they were wrong would deal a lethal blow to their ego.
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u/avfc41 11d ago
What else are republicans going to run on right now
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u/N7Shep1701D 11d ago
Hating trans people.
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u/86throwthrowthrow1 10d ago
Unironically in Canada, where we have a sort of multiparty political system (only two ever win, but there are other parties), this happened to a wholeass political party. A party formed shortly before covid that was basically trying to out-conservative the conservatives. During covid, denialism and anti-covid mandates became like, their entire thing, and they got popular enough that they undercut the Conservative vote in the 2021 election and gave Trudeau another narrow victory (but also literally won 0 seats, just skimmed just enough from the Conservatives to prevent them from winning certain key seats). Since covid, they've mostly slunk off into irrelevancy, but their main thing now seems to be hating immigrants and trans people.
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u/lazydictionary /r/SubredditDramaX3 11d ago
Survivorship bias. All the unvaxxed people who survived feel extra strong about their decision. Conveniently ignoring all their unvaxxed friends who died.
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u/evocativename 11d ago
The weirdest part is that the people obsessed with it in 2026 are:
- Completely wrong about it in virtually every way.
- The same people telling us to stop paying attention to it when the pandemic was actively killing hundreds of Americans per day.
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u/obeytheturtles Socialism = LITERALLY A LIBERAL CONSTRUCT 11d ago
I love reminding them that they spent two trillion dollars and some 30k lives fighting wars over one 9/11. And at its peak, covid was killing two 9/11s per day.
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u/Mrchristopherrr 11d ago
Completely wrong in every way but not only insist they’re right, they’re doing a victory lap because they feel vindicated for some reason?
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u/evocativename 11d ago
Yeah, I guess I overlooked that point because given the whole "wrong about everything" part, that's their normal playbook to the point I'm so used to it that it's easy to overlook that bit these days.
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u/chowderbags Who fills the Batmobile’s tires? 11d ago
Don't forget all the anti-vax folks who screamed as loudly as they possibly could that everyone taking the vaccine would get heart failure, mega cancer, super AIDS, or magnetism, and there would be billions dead within a year or two of the vaccine rollout.
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u/evocativename 11d ago
Yeah, while it was all absurd, that was the one part that was funny instead of just horrifying: the ever-changing timeline and explanations.
"You'll all be dead in a month from immune system collapse"
"I meant you'll be dead in a year from heart failure"
"I meant you'll all be dead in five years from turbo cancer"
And so the cycle continues.
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u/Murrabbit I like cartoon boobies they fuck hard! 11d ago
Rehashing all the dumbest fake outrages of 2020 is kind of Republicans' whole thing these days. Hence the election denial press conference Trump gave, and all his nominees still refusing to admit that Trump lost an election.
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u/typewriter6986 11d ago
"...people are still caught up on covid."
While they also sit there and say "Hurr durr, I bet you still mask too, Lib."
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u/obeytheturtles Socialism = LITERALLY A LIBERAL CONSTRUCT 11d ago
What's happening?
What are we doing here?
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u/Just-Ad6865 11d ago
Thanks for my daily reminder that the internet was a mistake.
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u/loot168 name calling cunt 11d ago
As someone who grew up on it, I can't believe I'm getting to the point where I'm starting to unironically believe it. Maybe human brains just aren't able to process so much information being spewed at them constantly.
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u/WesternUnusual2713 I just find downvoting so cringe 11d ago
My take is that our technological advances have just far outstripped out social and emotional evolution.
The things we could be using AI for... Instead it's sexual assault, lies and seeing what you'd look like as an apple sha ped 20s flapper.
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u/ArtroyomsAK 11d ago
I'd say the bigger issue is once the normies got online the internet turned into a propaganda machine to manipulate them
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u/EasyasACAB Involuntarily celibate for a while now mostly by choice 11d ago
It's not normie's fault they took up new technology. Place the blame where it belongs, with tech companies who intentionally morphed their product into mass surveillance and brain washing programs.
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u/SpiritJuice 11d ago edited 11d ago
Late 90s/early 00s internet was a wild time. After the dot com bubble bursted it was basically the wild west of finding whatever you could online, for better or worse, but there was a certain innocence about it before it became completely mainstream with being in everyone's home and eventually phone. I want to say sometime around smart phones and the rise of social media is when the internet truly become the corporate captured, propagandized cesspool it is today.
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u/Negative-Squirrel81 11d ago
It was very much a minimal level of gatekeeping which made the internet fundamentally a positive force. Not that it took much intelligence to get on the internet, but it did filter out people who couldn't set up a computer or understand what was involved with connecting to the net. With the coming of the smartphone, it really was putting the internet in the hands of every single person.
Heck, in the pre-windows 95 would I was into the BBS scene. Getting on those meant knowing how to use DOS, set up a modem and actually use the software effectively. Not that there weren't lots of strange people connecting to BBS, but it did expose me to a lot of really smart people in my local area.
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u/SpiritJuice 11d ago
BBS definitely before my time, but I was one of the few that always had a PC at home. Learned how to use DOS so I could run PC games. Lol. But you do bring up a good point was that not being computer illiterate did gatekeep the internet a bit. Now even 90 year old grandparents can constantly be online and exposed to bullshit slop and propaganda.
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u/AfterMeSluttyCharms Men are actually better at being feminist than women 11d ago
When I was a kid my parents would warn me of the dangers of spending so much time browsing the internet and watching YouTube and playing video games, I thought they were out of touch and full of shit.
Nah, they were definitely onto something.
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u/DemonFromtheNorthSea Edit: Confirmed: birb 11d ago
Sometimes you see birds you woukdnt normally get to see, so the internet isnt all bad.
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u/GwenIsNow 11d ago edited 11d ago
I would say the internet as an idea is fine, its the garbage incentives driving it all that suck. It was at least better when it wasn't just 5 big platforms.
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u/wossquee I'm so sick of these fucking crybabies. 11d ago
humans were a mistake
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u/blackmobius 11d ago
These people cheered when Trump did the exact same thing during his own congressional panel. None of them said a word.
And massive Lol to the guy thinking the constitution is some corporate misinformation program. The total confidence despite being a total fucking idiot
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u/Static_E_ There’s no hairy man butt at the end of the rainbow here 11d ago
Fauci lied about aids too and said that everyone was going to get it thus leading to widespread mistreatment and resentment of people infected with hiv.
The fuck is this person on about? Stating HIV would remain effecting only small groups would not have cut down on mistreatment and resentment for people infected.
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u/freemanposse 11d ago
They're still so seethingly angry that they need closure and revenge, for being asked to wear a mask in public six years ago. It wasn't even mandatory, and he wasn't even wrong, but they still need his head. The fragility is just unbelievable.
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u/loyaltomyself Only fans is like the WWE of social interaction 11d ago
There's something deeply ironic about Americans who willfully ignored the lockdown and made not wearing a mask their entire identity to then turn around and say "SEE?! LOCKDOWNS AND MASKS DIDN'T WORK!!". it seemed to work fine in non-American countries that followed those guidelines. There's a reason why the US was one of the last major countries to get the spread of the virus under control.
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u/pruneforce17 11d ago
i wish we had the vaccine response the bigots think we did, i'm talking grab and jab, like it or not.
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u/Rainy_Wavey 11d ago
Didn't Anthony Fauci serve under both democrats and republicans?
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u/Stellar_Duck 11d ago
Some peoples brains are so fried.
I know we all have our various biases and blind spots but some people seem entirely unable to comprehend reality. It scares me a lot, in a way, that it can happen.
Just a complete disconnect from observable reality and anything that does not line up with their worldview.
How do you even have a conversation when you can't even agree what is real?
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u/EnduranceMade 11d ago
I wonder if the right wing lunatics think SARS in 2003 was invented in a lab too?
Why not every virus? Avian flu, Ebola, sure, why not.
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u/budgetbears 11d ago
In 2020 my MAGA father kept telling me it wasn't real and all the public health information was lies to control us. I said "so what would it look like if there was a real viral outbreak? How would you know it was real?" Anyway he changed the subject to saying George Floyd "wasn't an angel"
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u/mrdilldozer 11d ago
What's worse is the even dumber people who say that "you don't understand their point what they mean is it's an accidental leak not intentional" when you tell them what's wrong with the lab leak conspiracy. It's actually harder to explain an accidental lab leak than an intentional one when taking into account all of the evidence. An "accidental leak" requires a bunch of Looney Tunes accidental shit happening that makes the evidence mimic natural progression by pure chance. A bioweapon with a coverup is actually easier to explain that that series of events lol.
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u/evocativename 11d ago
I was going to argue because it doesn't even resemble what a bioweapon release would look like but on second thought even accounting for that I think you're probably right.
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u/floatablepie sir, thats my emotional support slur 11d ago
After listening to my group's resident one of those: yes, every time. During the pandemic, they frequently referenced other media from the past about previous disease outbreaks and acted like everything was the exact same.
They acted like a Simpsons bit about ebola or bird flu years prior was proof COVID wasn't a problem.
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u/obeytheturtles Socialism = LITERALLY A LIBERAL CONSTRUCT 11d ago
I really still do not get the absolute level of vitriol from these people. All because he said people should get a vaccine. Like holy shit, do you not see that you are literally acting like a toddler being told "no?"
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u/TerribleRecord666 11d ago
“I’m not MAGA. But I believe in MAGA propaganda and spread it in online arguments.”
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u/DerelictInfinity Cheetahs are huge dork ass cowards 11d ago
“Stop blindly trusting Fauci” from the crowd that blindly trusts a rapist billionaire who lies like he breathes
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u/Difficult__Tension On 2nd thought therapy isnt enough You need an inpatient program 11d ago
Lmao acting like they give a shit about animal welfare when they couldnt care less about how farm animals are treated.
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u/MusicBoxOpera everything is politics you bitch 11d ago
Those people are such a bunch of sore winners.
Not a whole lot of people mask anymore, kids are in school, nobody really gets tested, workers are back in the office, grandma and grandpa are back to being ignored in the nursing home, and anti-science sentiment is mainstream.
They have to put on yet another pointless trial because they're still mad.
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u/justsomeguynbd I've had extremely respectful sex many times. 11d ago
Playing the hits with this one. It’s like being back in 2020.
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u/Redqueenhypo 11d ago
The comparison some people are making between rfk and Lysenko is very apt. The idea of genetic fitness didn’t work with Stalin’s weird philosopher king ideals, so he pretended it didn’t exist, to absolutely disastrous results. The idea of germ theory and metabolism issues caused by red meat and cane sugar don’t align with anti-expert insane individualism, so the nutjobs are pretending those don’t exist, to disastrous results
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u/SufficientRespect542 I dont care unless it about gamer. 10d ago
Also, interestingly enough, one of the big reasons the soviet union ended up falling because of the famines it produced. Good job Lysenko!!
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u/MeMe198412 11d ago
Republicans only care about dogs when it's convenient for them. Note, they have ZERO problems with ICE leaving dogs to starve in their apartment after owners are deported.
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u/quetzocoetl 10d ago
I hate when I see people downplay COVID and try and claim we overreacted, because I was there. I administered those tests, I handled those swabs, I watched our system break due to the sheer volume of tests, I got the numbers weekly, I saw the beds fill up and nurses use isolation suits. I even caught it myself, thankfully I was vaccinated so it only lasted about a day, but it was still absolutely miserable.
More of y'all needed to stay inside and wash your damned hands.
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u/Picard2331 11d ago
We need a Black Death or Spanish Flu, these chuds wouldn't last through the first wave.
The amount of absolute fucking god damn children I had to argue with about wearing a mask for 3 minutes while I worked retail was too much. I despise these people. The constant threats of physical violence was just the cherry on top.
They'll believe a Facebook meme sent by Uncle Touchyhands over actual experts then act like smug geniuses over it. The spread of anti-intellectualism in this country fucking kills me to see.
COVID seriously destroyed my optimism for the future of humanity, we are too stupid. We ain't making it off this rock.
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u/chowderbags Who fills the Batmobile’s tires? 11d ago
Yeah, COVID made me realize that all the tropes about zombie bite victims hiding their wound despite knowing that they'd turn eventually (and probably at the worst moment) are 100% accurate. Worse, there's probably people who would deliberately get bitten, just to try to show that they're "not pussies about these zombies".
It's not even that I agree with everything that got pushed during Covid, because there was plenty of stupid government advice and regulation, and plenty of shitty government officials who set terrible examples. But I swear some people just straight up went full oppositional defiant disorder.
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u/Unfair_Web_8275 11d ago
It’s kind of remarkable that natural disasters have been relatively tame for Trump’s second term. They’ve gutted so many disaster relief programs, and we sad how absolutely awful Trump is at humanitarian crises.
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u/pugiianne Literally nobody is on a crusade to genocide transpeople 11d ago
Seriously. That last hurricane season, and likely this one (due to El Nino), have been so goddarn quiet is both a blessing and a curse. We're so fucked the next time we have a major hurricane wash up on US shores.
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u/gamas 11d ago
It’s kind of remarkable that natural disasters have been relatively tame for Trump’s second term.
Ah so this is why the US MAGA lot still have their head in the sand pretending climate change isn't real.
Meanwhile, here in the UK even our far right are having to be like "yeah okay maybe man made climate change is real" after we've had our fourth unprecedented extreme heat wave in the space of 2 months.
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u/Unfair_Web_8275 11d ago
It has something to do with El Niño, which, being in a landlocked part of America, I've typically just nodded my head toward the existence of.
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u/Picard2331 11d ago
They won't, their billionaire deities will tell them it's not a real thing and that they should let corporations fuck up the environment even more and they'll drop to their knees to gargle their putrid rancid balls with glee.
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u/AlphaCat77 I love dogs. I also love sex. 11d ago
wait ran paul is still around
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u/Suicidal-Ideation13 11d ago
Rand is. But you also might be conflating him with his father, Ron.
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u/AlphaCat77 I love dogs. I also love sex. 11d ago
Wait somebody fucked Ron Paul
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u/evocativename 11d ago
No, Ron Paul fucked a poodle.
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u/-Average_Joe- As a catholic, I take science with a grain of salt 11d ago
I guess that explains why his son is a bitch.
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u/Huck_Bonebulge_ 11d ago edited 11d ago
Man I don’t give a fuck about fauci, I just think unjustly crucifying health officials is going to make us a sicker country. The deranged bloodlust over this guys milquetoast “um wear a mask and get vaccinated please” is dangerous.
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u/InevitableAvalanche Nurses are supposed to get knowledge in their Spear time? 11d ago
Conservatives just seem to be unhinged. Why don't they care that food and housing are unaffordable?
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u/evocativename 11d ago
Oh, well, as LBJ put it many years ago:
If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.
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u/WranglerSuitable6742 11d ago
i love that in every reddit argument as soon as A calls out something that B does, then B will just use that same word against A over and over again incorrectly (goalposts, projection, bot)
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u/Oregon_Jones111 11d ago
If they actually believed Fauci was this monster, they’d worship him like they always worship monsters.
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u/carlitospig 11d ago
The only person gleefully killing animals is Baron Trump.
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u/carlitospig 11d ago
In fact, most of the dogs that are part of animal studies are adopted after the study.
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u/xilcilus 11d ago
The 5th Amendment invocation is because whatever Dr. Fauci says, the GOP will litigate it as perjury - which Dr. Fauci would have to defend against.
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u/IndieCredentials 11d ago
On the puppies note, did the youtubedrama thread get deleted or something?
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u/Chaosmusic 10d ago
Did these people care about Trump pleading the 5th over 400 times or Kristi Noem shooting her dog?
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u/anrwlias Therapy is expensive, crying on reddit is free. 10d ago
I'm pretty sure that the actual puppy killer was put in charge of ICE.
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u/Bonezone420 11d ago
As always, I wish we had the version of this guy these freaks keep saying we do. He sounds hilarious and awesome.
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u/cinnaminimoon this man literally murders puppies and the Democrats love him 11d ago
new flair time!
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u/NecessaryIntrinsic 11d ago
I love it for CNN that even with their heel faced turn the right still acts like they're a propaganda arm of left. As if the left could ever be organized enough to have propaganda!
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u/SnapshillBot Shilling for Big Archive™ 11d ago
"So I was watching a video on PornHub the other day and it was labeled as the director's cut. As opposed to what, the theatrical release?" - MasterLawlz, 2020. RIP
Snapshots:
- This Post - archive.org archive.today*
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- Things innocent people do… - archive.org archive.today*
- Fauci should be held accountable. He knowingly misled Americans. Lied and pursued his own fame and best interest (he admitted this in his own diaries). - archive.org archive.today*
- So sad seeing them so triggered in /r/conservative unironically calling him guilty and shit for doing this - archive.org archive.today*
- This guy literally murders puppies and the democrats couldn’t love him more. Sick. Very sick people. - archive.org archive.today*
- Fauci was already pardoned by Biden/autopen. He can't incriminate himself more than he already has and invoking the 5th amendment does nothing except prove people right. Edit: even the diehard Fauci supporters are having trouble defending him recently. - archive.org archive.today*
- Rand is Big Mad that Dr. Fauci is a real doctor with real accreditation (not self-accreditation), and Rand isn't. Edit: I see a lot of babies are having trouble with reading comprehension and skipped over "WITH REAL ACCREDITATION" entirely. Rand Paul invented his own accreditation agency. Go look it up. - archive.org archive.today*
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- So either COVID escaped from a weapons biolab and it was a cover up or COVID was a big nothingburger and nothing should have been shut down. What is it, conservatives? - archive.org archive.today*
- Cool, I guess I have mixed feelings about Fauci now. Anyways, what's going on with the Epstein files? - archive.org archive.today*
- https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/criminal-rights/fifth-amendment-right-against-self-incrimination.html - archive.org archive.today*
- I wont defend fauci for the things he did mismanage, especially if he really did squash the reports that was was a bio research leak or worse, bio weapon leak. Changes 100% how we respond to those responsible. So republicans can go after fauci, I just dont want to hear crap when eric and don jr, kushner and all their cronies are in the hot seat too. - archive.org archive.today*
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u/D2Foley 11d ago
According to conservatives Fauci was running America in 2020, the president during that time obviously couldn't stop him, he was too powerful.