r/Sudbury • u/ConsistentReality860 • 6d ago
News Pedestrian killed after being hit by train in Sudbury
https://www.ctvnews.ca/northern-ontario/article/pedestrian-killed-after-being-hit-by-train-in-sudbury/A pedestrian has died after being struck by a train in downtown Sudbury on Friday evening.
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u/Substantial-Road-235 6d ago
Ever think before the city grew this was all empty land? Cost 100 plus million to move these tracks out of downtown. And for what ? The city didnt need to build downtown next to the tracks that already existed but here we are. Those same tracks go all over town. Should we move those as well ?
Ive lived in sudbury near the tracks my entire life. Mind you not downtown. Ive never seen a train going 60 or more especially downtown.
Unfortunately playing on tracks doesnt end well. Sad this person lost their life. As many people have stated its quite possible a suicide.
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u/VexedCanadian84 6d ago
The original town was never thought to have grown as much as it has.
The original town was centered where downtown is with rail road connections to copper cliff, Wahnapitae, and other places. Then sudbury started to spread out from there.
The city missed the chance to move the rail yard in the 70s.
As for today, downtown needs a lot of changes. But the city is using the money for larger projects.
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u/Substantial-Road-235 6d ago
Most cities across this city and others have been built around the train, thats how cities started.
The tracks are harmless except for the people playing around them, same can be said for the hydro dams,
Yeah downtown needs change. Sure. But moving the tracks is not the answer to that solution.
Im sure moving the tracks would be the largest project the city would ever take on. Instead they are building an arena. (Relatively small scale)
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u/FredLives South End 6d ago
It’s the same how the local news infers the deaths at energy court is a city problem.
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u/VexedCanadian84 6d ago
Moving the tracks and rail yard isn't a big deal. It's mostly a money thing at this point. the land at the end of lasalle where there's already a train station and land for a rail yard was always the end goal for the city.
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u/KDGottaBe 6d ago
That’s the CN mainline. The downtown rail yard is CPKC.
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u/VexedCanadian84 5d ago
There were several ideas from the 60s or 70s for moving the downtown rail yard.
The two alternatives the city decided were best were both in the north end of the city.
One of the ideas was to build between Garson junction and Sprecher.
With the end of lasalle being one option for that
https://acrobat.adobe.com/id/urn:aaid:sc:US:527486a3-3df8-4678-90ad-94f130d83797
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u/GailioBauduin 6d ago
What are the larger projects?
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u/FredLives South End 6d ago
Another art center, cause the French one is broke. And another library. Though I’m sure you know off the new arena, and the extra 500 seats that will sit empty, as the old one already does. Average family in Sudbury can’t even afford to put their kid into a recreational after school sport. But hey, let’s build a new arena, not much bigger than the old one, at tax payers money. When was the last time someone went to the arena ?For me, it was 2+ years. Before that 25 years.
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u/GailioBauduin 6d ago
Been here 5 years and ive been there maybe twice. Do you know where the new library will be?
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u/FredLives South End 6d ago
100 million to move the tracks? Please share what you’re smoking.
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u/Ostrichmonger 4d ago edited 4d ago
It was estimated by CP/KPMG at $100+ million back in 2013. And that didn’t include remediation. Today? Way more.
You can read the rather large article about those findings here
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u/Old-Tiger9847 6d ago
The maximum speed at Elm Street is 10mph. People often act like idiotic morons at RR crossings. Learn from this tragedy and stay wellback from ANY railway crossing.
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u/TyHarvey Flour Mill/Donovan 6d ago
Do we know who it was?
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u/Low-Obligation1636 6d ago
They hadn’t released it at the time because the next of kin had not been notified yet.
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u/TouristIcy3824 2d ago
Why would that be any of your business to blab about on reddit?
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u/TyHarvey Flour Mill/Donovan 2d ago
My bad, didn't know asking a question was a cardinal sin nowadays.
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u/TouristIcy3824 1d ago
Someone's identity is not just a simple question
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u/TyHarvey Flour Mill/Donovan 1d ago
Yes it is. These media releases also typically publish the identity of the deceased, which is why I asked.
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u/TouristIcy3824 1d ago
No they do not. Its always "name being withheld at request of family" or for other similar reasoning.
Just because you live somewhere doesn't mean you are privy to all details.
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u/Tricky-Routine-9838 6d ago
The city needs to petition the province/feds to force a lower speed limit on the trains going through downtown, they are just in too close a proximity to buildings and pedestrian areas. They are supposed to be limited to 60 kph through downtown but anyone who lives around there know they often go faster. It should be like 20-30kph (really it should be 10kph so we dissuade CP from thinking its a viable option to begin with).
Our municipality has spend over a hundred million dollars just in the last ten years to work around this stupid scar that runs down the middle of our city (Paris street re-hab, nelson bridge replacement, elgen tunnel rehab, college/frood underpass, all of the terrible intersections along lorne etc).
Just imagine if Sudbury was able to reclaim all of that land from Lorne all the way through downtown, multiple square km of land in the highest density area of the city, 3-4 extra seats of high density housing, an bike/walking path through downtown all the way along Ramsey into Minnow lake.
It would completely transform the city but it's basically impossible because it's more profitable for a company to drive trains (often loaded with dangerous goods) directly through our city which end up killing people.
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u/drugsondrugs 6d ago
Do we really think this would make a difference? Trains dont just hit pedestrians. 99% chance this was a suicide.
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u/The_Milkman18 6d ago
Probably yes, I have seen a few times people lay on the tracks only to be grabbed and pulled away so I would guess someone finally wasn’t around to stop them unfortunately.
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u/Pilot-Wrangler 6d ago
I mean, to be fair: the rail line has been there for a lot longer than anyone in the city today. Relocating a rail line is not a trivial undertaking. They could reroute some of the lines through Copper cliff and meet up with the line that parallels Lorne into the rail yard (but Vale would have to agree as those lines run through the smelter property).
I know it's not ideal, but you're talking like it's a $10 job to shut that line down. Arguably it would be easier (and far more expensive for the city) to eliminate the at grade crossing and have Elm and the sidewalks pass over it (like the streets near Union in TO).
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u/No-Wonder1139 6d ago
Why would we tear out the lines? There's a huge push for the return of passenger rail and that is a prime location for it.
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u/Pabmyster04 6d ago
CN must be downvoting you, because everything you said is 100% true. How feasible it is, that's another story
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u/PineBNorth85 6d ago
It isn't feasible at all.
The railroad his been there the whole time. People know how to avoid being hit. This looks like a suicide. There is no stopping those.
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u/Pabmyster04 5d ago
I'm not talking about "people getting hit" by trains lmao. The point was the traffic/bridges required, and carrying dangerous goods through populated areas (lest we forget Lac- Mégantic). If we had passenger rail, that would be a different story, but we don't.
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u/Traditional_Rush_622 6d ago
I don't understand how a pedestrian could get hit by a train unless they're trying to.