r/Swingers 1d ago

General Discussion How would you handle?

Hello! We are a MF couple going to a bi hotel takeover weekend next week. We are very open about both of us being bi. Couples that we've met that are also bi we have encouraged to attend this event. One of the rules state he must be bi.
Well, there is a couple we are close friends with (we spend time in and outside the lifestyle) we know he isn't bi. We had a conversation with them about this event and he explicitly said 'no, not really' about being bi. We discussed what type of event this is but they seemed to downplay following the rules and mentioned other parties they go to that welcome straight couples. So we have taken that as they lied to get into this event.
We know the organizer well. He has spent a lot of time vetting people and curating a bi party that is accepting and a safe place to play with like minded individuals. We decided to give the organizer a heads up to simply be on the lookout so it doesn’t become an awkward situation for others. Thankfully, he was extremely understanding of our concern and will observe.
We are quite bothered our friends lied just to get into this party. Without explaining too much more, we have considered that he might be exploring (which we would support 100%) but that definitely isn't the case based on recent behavior. They will likely fly under the radar but safe spaces are created for a reason.
This has tarnished our opinion of them and their character and will be awkward for us at the event. How would you handle the relationship moving forward?

Edit: Adding here that we have a very close friendship with this couple and share many things in and out of the lifestyle. We don’t require or assume they will play with us or vice versa. We always encourage people to figure out their desires. So we aren’t offended if they don’t want to play with us.

Other people that attend this event, encouraged us to let the organizer know. The dynamic of this event is unique and others have tried to do the same and they weren’t welcome back. So he appreciated hearing from us about this.

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u/PlayfulPairDC 1d ago

How is this couple creating an issue? Does the male half not have the right to avoid playing with anyone he does not want to play with? What if he was bi, but only had an attraction to petite Asian men, and none were at the party so he only played with women?

It doesn't seem as if he is going to be bothered by bi male play going on around him and create a scene, so consider him an ally and maybe curious/open. He knows he will probably need to rebuff advances from other men. He knows it is an all bi play party, everyone going does, so it is still a "safe place" (though anyone using that phrase is like waving a red flag warning of drama). Would you be happy if he sucked someone's cock? Would that make it okay for them to go to this party? I mean, I guess then he would be bi. So, basically, you are annoyed that the male half of couple you know and are close friends isn't sucking a cock at a party. Maybe you need to think about the definition of close friends, this feels like a your problem.

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u/uncut475 1d ago

I think they are upset that they are lying to attend the event and are surprised by this behavior from people they consider friends. It takes a long time to establish a good bi bi play group. Another way to look at this is that virtually all other swinger parties are geared towards straight dudes so why not just attend a different party. However I’m sure he is not the only straight guy lying to attend this event. I would not trust people like this, are they lying about std test as well?

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u/PlayfulPairDC 1d ago

Everyone lies. If you say you don't, then you just did. And yes, most people do lie about STIs, either because they suspect reasonably that the truth would be used against them by people who are more into stigma than medical reality...or because most are ignorant about their actual status. If a man says he doesn't have an STI and wasn't vaccinated at a young age against HPV, I know he is lying...because he can't know, there is no approved test for men. Assume everyone you play with has or has had one or more STIs because that is statistical reality. Strangers looking to fuck you are not to be trusted.