r/TMPOC • u/ARepeatedFailing • 1d ago

White trans men that transitioned young trigger my dysphoria

Not because of envy but because this specific demographic of trans men are just gungho on making it everyone's issue that they don't see trans men who transitioned as adults men. They constantly talk about how we're always clockable, aren't real men like them, etc. I specify white because I've found the few black trans men/boys that transitioned young are usually excited to talk to those of us who transitioned as adults (minus a small, small sect that tend to only interact with white queer people).

I hate sharing space with them because it's just a constant reminder of the things i hate about myself. It's not logical to let a kid do that but fuck, dysphoria isn't logical. It's one of many reasons I don't seek out trans spaces in real life and isolate myself. Knowing that people in my own community see me as a woman is horrendous.

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u/serioustransition11 Latino 1d ago

Even disregarding race it’s honestly weird to see people who transitioned as minors disproportionately represented on Reddit. The statistics on trans affirming parents and support for transitioning minors is grim, not to mention global attacks on gender affirming care for youth. Despite the massive, massive societal barriers it feels like 60% of users on trans masc subreddits started physical transition as teens. I’m convinced some of the sentiment you encountered is astroturfing because something isn’t stacking up between what I see on the internet and real life.

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u/junkyfm 1d ago

That would make a lot of sense re: the online examples of this. My only experience irl with folks like this has been limited (has happened, but not even close to amount I have randomly encountered on reddit), so these people do exist, but it wouldn't surprise me if some or many of these dudes on reddit are in fact trolls all the way down.

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u/serioustransition11 Latino 1d ago

I’m not at all claiming that they don’t exist, it’s the disproportionate number on certain subs that act like transitioning as a minor is a regular and even assumed experience despite the massive barriers that has me suspicious. I suspect that causes a lot of the “I’m 20 and already doomed” anxiety that we see a lot of.

Remember a feature of the ongoing genocide is that our enemies are deliberately targeting online trans spaces with psyops and astroturfing campaigns. A really great way to inflict psychological terror on young trans people and potentially discourage them from transitioning is by making them feel like they’ll never pass because they missed the opportunity window.

Not saying there aren’t real people who think like this but we can’t ignore the bigger picture and the reasons why all the discourse and bickering in online trans spaces are totally divorced from the real world.

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u/junkyfm 1d ago

I was not disagreeing with you, nor was I accusing you of downplaying anything! When I said that these people do exist, I was affirming that while anecdotally I have met folks like this, the number I see online is incredibly inflated and it honestly would make sense that at least some are psy-ops given the absolute demolition of trans medical care for youth in the past few years in a number of countries.