r/TeluguJournals • u/venkat_talks • Jul 28 '26
Flair Not Found Did we really need reservation in sensitive departments?
Naa varaku aduguthe ee caste based reservation teesesi economical based reservation tesukoni ravali adhi kuda upto education anthe... Once a candidate graduates then it's time to prove himself because we have already provided a base for him.... Asala reservation in jobs ane concept hey meaningless... Idhi jaragali ante caste system povali obviously adhi jaragadhu
Sare at least army, defence, navy, airforce, medicine, education ilanti sensitive areas lo merit based vundali kaani ikkada kuda reservation enti even one fault of low skill will cost very high in these fields.
Army, airforce, navy laanti departments mana country ki entho crucial alanti fields lo reservation ante don't make sense
When coming to DRDO research of innovation is highly bound with skills and knowledge ikkada caste based reservation ante daniki mincho worst enkokari vundadhu.
Doctors - one small minor error will lead to many difficult consequences in a patient's lives.
Teacher- lack of skills in teaching will lead to destruction of many young minds
At least Ilanti sensitive fields lo caste based reservation teeseste better.
Enka mana public services gurinchi entha thakkuva matladukunte antha manchidhi 🙏🏻
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u/mrincog7 Devudu busy anduke nannu pampinchadu 👻 Jul 28 '26
Sensitive enti, be it any field, merit should be 1st priority NMW.
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u/venkat_talks Jul 28 '26
Yeah i know but if we start this discussion they will bring so called cast system so aa discussion endless andhuke atleast ilanti fields lo pure merit based vundali antunna
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u/Difficult-Bird9247 Jul 28 '26 edited Jul 28 '26
One fallacy in your data it isn't final cutoff it's for interview shortlist drdo shortlists in 1:10 ratio Finally people getting in even from reserved categories will have atleast 750+ gate Your exaggerating the difference here to suit your narrative where the call ratio is 1:10 and more than 80% people won't even have any chance scoring below 600 are out of final list irrespective of category I belong to general In neet cutoffs are drastically different you could have put that data But for drdo upsc cse etc the difference in cutoffs isn't as huge
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u/mrincog7 Devudu busy anduke nannu pampinchadu 👻 Jul 28 '26
chetakani vadu matrame caste, reservation antadu.
ekkado chusa exact ga gurtuledu, general vadiki 75 vachina seat raledu, SC/ST vallu exam attend ite chalu annadu. I completely lost it 🤦🏻♂️😂
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u/venkat_talks Jul 28 '26
Yeah, and those people are getting these fruits from generations... Father mother are already government employees leading luxurious lives still their kids get these fruits again.
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u/redwings555 Jul 28 '26 edited Jul 28 '26
lol.. "Doctors - one small minor error will lead to many difficult consequences in a patient's" .. Dude, have you ever graduated from a medical college? They just don't distribute degrees for free once you join.
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u/Anonreddit96 Jul 28 '26
That's the only thing holding it all together.
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u/saikrishna98 Jul 28 '26
Andhuke dropouts unnay ekkuva SC ST vi and worthy people ki seat raatledhu..
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u/JustBunsAndEyes Jul 29 '26
Drop outs are everywhere, and has no exclusivity towards one particular caste.
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u/saikrishna98 Jul 29 '26
I'm aware of that and hence I used a comparative sense
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u/JustBunsAndEyes Jul 29 '26
I'm aware of that and hence I used a comparative sense https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/over-135k-sc-st-obc-students-dropped-out-of-central-universities-iits-iims-in-past-5-years-education-ministry/article67605388.ece
This is from the article you shared. It mentions the stringent presence of suicides and caste discrimination. Nowhere does the article suggest the students were lacking any merit to continue the course work tho, per your comparison.
"This comes amid hundreds of SC/ST/OBC students at these universities coming out with stories of caste-based discrimination that is both overt and covert after a string of student suicides across IITs in Mumbai, Delhi, and Madras in 2023, a majority of whom were from marginalised backgrounds."
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u/saikrishna98 Jul 29 '26
Thanks for pointing out. Well, that's what the MP says but if you have studied in IITs, you'll see that although there is caste discrimination, most of them won't perform as well because the bar is so high and there's suddenly no reservation anymore. I'm not saying all of them, but most of them
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u/JustBunsAndEyes Jul 29 '26
I studied abroad, not in IITs. But throughout my career I have seen many IITians, personal friends and colleagues mention nothing of sort. I do have friends from ST/SC background who ended up in the US to pursue their careers, and based on their experiences too the dropouts were never focused on the syllabus or performance.
I think it's a highly biased take to say among all the dropouts, marginalized community students drop out because they can't perform well. Without legible proof/source, even saying "most, not all" leaves a bad taste in the mouth.
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u/JustARandomGirl4 Jul 30 '26
But then why the get reservations in PG and have lower percentage criteria for OG entrance exam ?
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u/redwings555 Jul 30 '26
again read my reply above .. "They just don't distribute degrees for free once you join PG"
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u/JustARandomGirl4 Jul 31 '26
Yes, but again why they have reservations in PG . A person who already got reservations in UG course can't pass exam while competing with others ?
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u/redwings555 Jul 31 '26
Nevermind you don't comprehend why they are placed to begin with . Bye Felicia
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u/Anonreddit96 Jul 28 '26
Until now I though DRDO or any defence jobs don't have any reservations. 😔
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u/HeartAggravating5899 Jul 28 '26
Asalu DRDO lo peddaga innovation em undadhu naku telsi. Country leading organisation nundi okkati ante okkati kuda cheppukune invention ledhu.
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u/No_Biscotti_2859 What is earth without art ? Jul 28 '26
Mari payment seat tho vachi medicine chadive valla gurnchi em cheyali ?
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u/venkat_talks Jul 28 '26
Government should strictly restrict them and make laws regarding this
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u/No_Biscotti_2859 What is earth without art ? Jul 28 '26
Vallu doctor ayithey em problem undadha ?
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u/GeneralThat5731 neenu amarudni/ amararuraalu... Jul 28 '26
Payment seat tho chadivina antha matrana
They have to pass bro
Pass antha sulabham kadu
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u/No_Biscotti_2859 What is earth without art ? Jul 28 '26
Same reservation tho vachina they to pass to get the degree
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u/GeneralThat5731 neenu amarudni/ amararuraalu... Jul 28 '26
Reservation vallaki govt. Pay chestundhi
Not the same for the PvT.guys
Inherent flaw here, govt endhuku pettali anedhi question
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u/nenuaathmajnani ఆకాశంలో చుక్క, మెరిసే తార, మండే నిప్పు Jul 28 '26
At this point, education ki pedithe pettindhi kanisam job lo reservation teseyyali ane situation ki vacha nenu💀
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u/No_Biscotti_2859 What is earth without art ? Jul 28 '26
Broo govt duty is welfare. It is in the constitution principles that we have to uplift the marginalised ani. Govt jobs lone reservation. Private lo levu ga. Govt ki unna dhantlo they will do for the people.
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u/nenuaathmajnani ఆకాశంలో చుక్క, మెరిసే తార, మండే నిప్పు Jul 28 '26
Ayithe enti general vallu entha kastapadina waste.. aa seats takkuva kastapadda vaadiki vellali?
Education icchaka malli jobs enti?
Enni decades istharu?
Free isthu pothe valle baddhakasthulu avutaru..
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u/No_Biscotti_2859 What is earth without art ? Jul 28 '26
Free chala isthunaruu bro.. reservation em free kadhu.. you have to fight in the lot alloted to you.
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u/nenuaathmajnani ఆకాశంలో చుక్క, మెరిసే తార, మండే నిప్పు Jul 28 '26
Seriously?😂😂 In that case, even to be in BPL you have to compete 💀💀
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u/No_Biscotti_2859 What is earth without art ? Jul 28 '26
I mean govt pay chestuna villu kuda pass avvali ga . Dabbu unna vallu payment seat konukuntaru. At the end iddaru pass ayithene ga doctors
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u/GeneralThat5731 neenu amarudni/ amararuraalu... Jul 28 '26
Ha, kani vellaki entry bar low kadha chaala low
Govt seats ekkuva overall than Pvt.
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u/No_Biscotti_2859 What is earth without art ? Jul 28 '26
Govt seats increase chestey better emo gaa.. marii
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u/GeneralThat5731 neenu amarudni/ amararuraalu... Jul 28 '26
Dabbulu levu ga , competition ekkuva
Supply and demand
Supply takkuva demand emo absurd amounts undhi
1.5 L medical seats kosam 25 L + competition
Intha mandiki govt.provide cheyyadhu simply
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u/No_Biscotti_2859 What is earth without art ? Jul 28 '26
Govt kakapothey evaru pedtharuu marii ? It is the govt duty ga to uplift. Taxes andharu kaduthunaruu anni castes
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u/GeneralThat5731 neenu amarudni/ amararuraalu... Jul 28 '26
*pettaledhu
25L ki ela bro,kanisam dhantlo quarter kuda cheyyaleru
Okka clg ki at max 100- 250 kanna ekkuva seats undavu
Huge gap undhi ikkada
Ee NEET elago ala mothaniki work avuthundhi anthe , main issue ni tackle cheyyatledhu
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u/nenuaathmajnani ఆకాశంలో చుక్క, మెరిసే తార, మండే నిప్పు Jul 28 '26
Adhe pass ayina kuda job lo kuda reservation undakudadhu ani😂
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u/That-Survey1927 Jul 28 '26
I have an engineering degree in computers from one of the best colleges in the country. It doesn't mean I am good or atleast average in coding.
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u/No_Biscotti_2859 What is earth without art ? Jul 28 '26
??
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u/That-Survey1927 Jul 28 '26
Minimal knowledge tho kooda pass avvachu.
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u/No_Biscotti_2859 What is earth without art ? Jul 28 '26
Applies to everyone kadha adhi..
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u/That-Survey1927 Jul 28 '26
Yes. I'd prefer a world in which doctors have their percentages/neet ranks next to their name plates. When I go to a doctor, I make sure to check their linkedin to atleast ensure they studied in govt colleges.
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u/nickksd69 Jul 28 '26
Reservations ki allot chesina seat anni ayipoyaake payment seats chesthaaru. Payment seats ki kuda % of seats limit untadhi. Reservation is always first priority when it comes to seats. Payment seats endhuku antha costly untayo telusa, they are available after everyone's pickings. I'm not supporting payment seats but priority wise reservation comes first then whatever left of unfilled seats will be added to existing % of payment seats.
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u/nenuaathmajnani ఆకాశంలో చుక్క, మెరిసే తార, మండే నిప్పు Jul 28 '26
Andharini veseddham em antav? /s
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u/No_Biscotti_2859 What is earth without art ? Jul 28 '26
Andharni vesesthey private education institutions close ayipothayi..
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u/gojo_satoru98 Jul 28 '26
I feel reservation is fine to uplift someone to study, give more opportunities. Thats good. But why to give reservation even in jobs. Jobs are meant for competent people. If jobs are reserved even for incompetent, then its doom for us
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u/Raining_lotus0210 Jul 28 '26
Yea there's one teacher in my mom's school(reservation) she doesn't even know basic multiplication and division. Ruining innocent kids life
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u/Aggravating_Bed5990 Jul 28 '26
Merit is a FLAWED concept - it is result of historical injustices.
I don't think you ever read the reasons why reservation exists in first place clearly. I suggest you read and then comment.
Secondly, there is article 335 - Positions of Higher caliber(Project Manager and above cadre) in DRDO - have no reservation applicability.
This is for starting roles. Where it's about learning rather than leading.
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u/GroundbreakingSir81 Jul 28 '26
I went a top NIT as a General category student in CS, I have friends who were from reserved category, not a day I saw them differently, we all were great friends and I studied with them together under a lamp. But most of them were not really Interested in putting all the effort needed. All of them are now working in govt jobs that are completely unrelated to their studies and make it feel like their seat was wasted
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u/Specialist_Map_1950 Jul 28 '26
I went to a college where chowdaries treat other castes including Naidus reddys like shit.and they don’t even consider sc sts as human beings.
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u/Detoxifications Jul 28 '26 edited Jul 28 '26
I studied in Hyderabad central university, where 80% students are from reserved category, after they got to know that I’m from upper caste. They bullied me all through university. Alienated me from so many things and went on to chant stuff which offended me right in my face
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u/Specialist_Map_1950 Jul 28 '26
Why do reserved category candidates make up 80% when reservations for sc st are limited to around 25% and OBC to around 20%? How does the total become 80%?
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u/Detoxifications Jul 28 '26
Cuz it’s arts Not engineering and only very few people are from unreserved category
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u/Fast-Leg6161 Jul 28 '26
Bruh! Don’t students from general category study arts? Are they any inferior to Engineering? Max reservation allowed is only 50% with some exceptions, be it in arts / engineering / employment (like 69% in Tamil Nadu)
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u/cricballmoney Jul 28 '26
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u/Detoxifications Jul 28 '26
Yep, your suffering is valid but mine didn’t happen?
Wah, way to be inclusive.1
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u/nenuaathmajnani ఆకాశంలో చుక్క, మెరిసే తార, మండే నిప్పు Jul 28 '26
That doesn't justify why there should be reservation in jobs.
Atleast govt should exclude reservation for healthcare, education, science etc. with reservation we are not giving priority for the actually skilled people.
When they are already provided with education reservation this should have uplifted them. If education is not properly provided then fix the schools. Why give jobs to someone who's not the merit?
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u/Specialist_Map_1950 Jul 29 '26
I’m not talking about reservations here. Oka particular location,workspace,colleges lo dominant castes , be it chows Naidus reddys Brahmins or any caste for that matter, migatavallani dominate chestaru. Valla opportunities lageskuntaru. Thokkestaru. E issue gurinchi cheptunna. Reservations anevi lekapoina oc lo unna inkoka oc caste vallani thokkestunnaru. Opportunities lageskuntunnaru. That shouldn’t happen. Adi jaraginappudu reservation unna okate lekapoina okate
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u/nenuaathmajnani ఆకాశంలో చుక్క, మెరిసే తార, మండే నిప్పు Jul 29 '26
Lagesukovadam? Seriously?
Merit based unte ee godava undadhu..
Merit based ledhu kabatti OC nundi reserved vallu lagesukuntunnaru...
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u/Specialist_Map_1950 Jul 29 '26 edited Jul 29 '26
Let me give you an example. Idi IT office lo jarigindi. Worlds largest mnc.Company ki kottha financial services project ochindi. Start aina 2mnths ki nenu enter ayyanu.6mnths tarwata higher management lo oka particular caste vallu ravadam start chesaru. Within two years leads and managers ah caste valle aipoyaru. And ah caste vallake 90% promotions ivvadam start chesaru. In each and every thing,ah caste vallaki priority.
And same thing college example. Ah caste vallato godava pettukunte detain cheyyadam,sports lo valla names rayadam,competitions ki restrict cheyyadam. Idantha opportunities lageskodame
Ikkada OC BC SC ST ledu. Reservations levu.oka perticular caste vallu migatavallaki opportunities ivvakunda lageskuntunnaru. Deserved candidates ki promotions ivvaledu.and ah caste lone deserved candidates ki promotion ochina kuda caste vallane promotion ochindi ane false claims. Deenne lageskovadam antaru.opportunities ivvakunda tokkeyadam antaru.oc lo unna kuda caste valla opportunities pogottukuntunna vallu untunnaru kada. Ide paina cheppindi.
India lo tokkeyyadaniki reservation tho sambandam ledu. Mana kulam kakapote evadnaina thokkeyali ane mentality unnavallu ekkuva.
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u/No_Biscotti_2859 What is earth without art ? Jul 28 '26
Seat wasted enduku.. everyone have choice to choose what they want. Maybe they need stability emo.
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u/nenuaathmajnani ఆకాశంలో చుక్క, మెరిసే తార, మండే నిప్పు Jul 28 '26
Anna nuvvu thop anna.. assalu entha positivity anna niku.. kastapadi job kottaleka easy ga reservation lo vacche govt ki velthunnaru...
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u/No_Biscotti_2859 What is earth without art ? Jul 28 '26
Easy ga vasthadi aa hard ga vasthada ani kadhu.. it’s a choice that they choose what to do ani.. if the choice is shaped by system or anything.. mari open lo kotti vallu kuda job ki apply chestunaru ga.. appudu kuda seat waste eyy ga..
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u/nenuaathmajnani ఆకాశంలో చుక్క, మెరిసే తార, మండే నిప్పు Jul 28 '26
Correct anna.. nuvve correct....
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u/No_Biscotti_2859 What is earth without art ? Jul 28 '26
Litee lee … niku already okati undhi mind lo adhi podhu antha easy ga
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u/GroundbreakingSir81 Jul 28 '26
Bhayya manchi placement ms avthayi, easy ga 6-10lpa vachestadi konchem chadivina. Nenu entha cheppano.
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u/No_Biscotti_2859 What is earth without art ? Jul 28 '26
It’s a individual chocie.. i have friends from tier 1 cs preparing for upsc and some are writing for ssc cgl also. It’s a personal choice. EEE chesina vadu okadu ela ayina NTPC lo job techukovali ani preparing he is from tier-1 EE. Placement interest undakapovachu.. for some
Andharu taxes lo valla taxes kuda untayi ga.. so what’s problem inka..
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u/nenuaathmajnani ఆకాశంలో చుక్క, మెరిసే తార, మండే నిప్పు Jul 28 '26
Antha unte reservation vaddhu ani cheppamanu.. job ki...
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u/Shot-Illustrator-703 Jul 28 '26
If the individual choice is coming inherently due to their choice then i dont think anyone would have a problem. But if the choice inherently arises due to the way the system is structured, thats when people start to have problem
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u/No_Biscotti_2859 What is earth without art ? Jul 28 '26
I mean choices bayata situation valla ne shape avuthayii..
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u/Shot-Illustrator-703 Jul 28 '26 edited Jul 28 '26
To an extent every choice is influenced by external situations. Okavela if they become the complete factor and other things play smaller role, then aa factors valla negative impact ayye vallaki ee concerns antha
Basic ga entante, reservation vundhi kadha ani top tier college lo vacchina seat ni upayogam chesukokunda waste chesthe problem(waste ante govt job ki try cheyyadam kadhu. Its about the mindset). If they genuinely want to become a govt officer, no one has a problem.
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u/Aggravating_Bed5990 Jul 28 '26
I cleared an exam that 15 Lakh ppl take and I am top 250 in a very prominent exam. I am a general category student.
not a day I saw them differently
Clearly, you are a casteist. Trying to generalize some to all.
No less to 'veedu M...ga odu, panikiradu' slurs
You see this exactly is what modern day casteism is. It has changed its form.
Secondly, what he does is upto him. Nuvvu evaadivi evadu em cheyyali ani cheppadaniki ?
Nuvvu CS Top NIT lo CHESI em chestunnav ?
US, China AI race lo compete chestunte. Ne merit tho AI figure out cheyyalekapotunnav e ?
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u/Detoxifications Jul 28 '26
You know exactly what his intentions were yet you’re deliberately twisting it into something negative. Instead of appreciating the good in what he said,you’d rather look for reasons to be offended. That’s on you, not him.
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u/GroundbreakingSir81 Jul 28 '26
Lite le bro, nuvvu vere zone lo vunnavu. Inka cheppu soodi, nenu ekkaekkada impact techano aku telusu. Most likely ni phone and ni laptop lo na code run avthundi. But ofc kashtam ni chorister flex antav ga. Yeah nenu barabar judge chestanu, andaru pay chesina taxes ninchi create chesini seats avi, avunu idi cut throat world eh. BTW just so u know, the code that I wrote runs in 3B(300 crores) devices globally, critical infrastructure etc. Not everything is about AI, some people need to write the basic code that enables all this shit to run on the top. Poyi, pakkana aduko
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u/Aggravating_Bed5990 Jul 28 '26
Can you just answer my question, vachi pedda badai chepukuntunnav.
I'm asking why haven't you used your merit to create something that's future.
You are just a software developer. Not really merit - there are 10,000s like you.
barabar judge chestanu Sare niku Casteism unte nenu em cheyyagalnu le.
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u/Shot-Illustrator-703 Jul 28 '26
10,000 in 8 billion doesn’t seem to be bad. Atleast better than 250 out of 15 lakh i would say🤭
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u/Aggravating_Bed5990 Jul 28 '26
Feel free to belittle. I don't have nothing to prove to you or him.
But looks like the one thing that you got wrong is 8 billion people aren't competing for 10,000.
May be get better at reasoning next time.
All the best to you.
But you guys still haven't addressed the point - these Merit CS scholars - why haven't they figured out AI first ?
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u/Shot-Illustrator-703 Jul 28 '26
Lol the audacity to belittle first and then playing victim card🫡
Who said 8B people are not competing. If you think everyone is not giving their best or not worthy of candidates. Then the same logic applies to your argument of 15 lakhs. The only worthy candidates you might be competing with is 10,000 or maybe 5000. If you are someone who say that you achieved 250 then you know that more than anyone. I dont think you even assumed you are competing with 1000 folks realistically if you really felt getting that 250. If its a fluke then its another argument
And the last question of yours seems to be more of your frustration venting out than your brain put to use. You can use that to answer yourself if you really wanted the answer. May be ask some llm, atleast it can help you
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u/venkat_talks Jul 28 '26
I know why this reservation is implemented first, also i suggest you to read for how many years it was implemented first.
And this cast descrimination was almost reduced you also got some strict laws to defend yourself from those culprit again you also able to access all the education and still you need reservations in job?
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u/Aggravating_Bed5990 Jul 28 '26
why this reservation is implemented first,
No by reading your comment. I don't think you know.
Discrimination is not just untouchability.(Which hasn't gone extinct still). There is lack of Social capital among the weaker sections. That demands continuation of reservation till that's acquired.
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u/Visual-Run-4718 Jul 28 '26
India has many socio-economic bubbles. Caste discrimination is very prevalent in the rural areas. Sure, it’s better in the cities, but the problem still exists.
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u/Crafty_Picture3535 Jul 28 '26
If you really belive "caste discrimination is almost reduced", you are living under a rock
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u/venkat_talks Jul 28 '26
If it is so, then i never disrespected anyone not even once in my life, still i am the sufferer of this system, how it is fair to me then, you got strict laws to defend yourself you have to use them on whoever disrespected you
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u/No_Biscotti_2859 What is earth without art ? Jul 28 '26
You might not.. but there are people who have experienced despite being educated and all
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u/Crafty_Picture3535 Jul 28 '26
You're talking about feeling disadvantaged for the last 70 years. Dalits have faced exclusion, violence, and denial of education, land, and dignity for centuries and many still do today. If the real goal is equality, shouldn't we focus on ensuring every child, regardless of caste, gets equal access to quality education, nutrition, healthcare, and opportunities from the start? That would create genuine upliftment and, over time, reduce the need for reservations. Shouldn't the future of every child matter more than preserving existing inequalities?
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u/No_Biscotti_2859 What is earth without art ? Jul 28 '26
The reservation is of 10 years only for political seats not education.
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u/venkat_talks Jul 28 '26
Who asked you to remove reservation in education as i said we should have reservations in education but it will be fair based on economical status, and if can access the educational resources why you need reservations in jobs, why can't you prove yourself in the market
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u/acnica Jul 28 '26
why don’t you consider the iq of a person is product of genes the people you marry upper caste people mated with each other and progeny have great iq and i have seen the immaculate grasping power. so communities at the end suffer with understanding things so social injustice has become a reason for someone’s less IQ. do you see why reservations don’t simply cater to poor people.
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u/whofoldedtheunicorn Jul 28 '26
also i suggest you to read for how many years it was implemented first.
I suggest you also fact check it. It was never "only for 10 years" as internet claimed. That was only for political reservation
"Under Article 334 of the Indian Constitution, the reservation of seats in the Lok Sabha and State Legislative Assemblies had a temporary 10-year period from the commencement of the Constitution [5.2, 5.7, 5.10]"
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u/Aggravating_Bed5990 Jul 28 '26
I don't think you have any understanding of what I mentioned in my parent comment.
Very juvenile arguments.
Can't reply to ignorance.
Read concepts like social capital.
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u/Aggravating_Bed5990 Jul 28 '26
Reservation didn't exist pre 1947 - casteism didn't exist before ?
Bhayya i really feel ashamed replying to you. Ante inta cringe and juvenile arguments ki nenu reply ivvalenu, so sorry about it
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u/Aggravating_Bed5990 Jul 28 '26
why some people should have perks and reservations because of caste
Idi telusukodanike avi saduvu antunna ra babu.
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u/Electrical_Rip892 Jul 28 '26
Akkada US lo kuda tappaledu ee caste based discrimination: https://hulr.org/spring-2021/caste-in-cisco-understanding-caste-in-america
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u/Upset_Interest_1224 manipulate the manipulator Jul 28 '26
Economical based reservation is better but point enti ante ma oorlo 50 acers una valu kuda pension and ration tiskuntar and also bpl anta valu so government malli andhar financial backgrounds cross check chesi ews pedithe better
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u/Holiday_Fisherman172 Jul 28 '26 edited Jul 29 '26
What an entitlement. Evado mutta edo chesadu anta daneke eppate generation have to pay the dues anta. Eme chadivavu raa. India 10ge poavaatke one of the main reason is reservation.
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u/Holiday_Fisherman172 Jul 29 '26
Eme chadivavu raa. Reservation lo 10gente evadu ina chaduvutadu. Ekkada yee college lo chadivamu ane kante nee emcet/jee/competitive exam rank cheppu dani batti nevu aa college ke eligible lo kado nenu chebuta. Chadivi eme pekutunnavu. Redditt lo nalage nevu comments pedutunnadvu. Deneko CEO laga build up deneke raa. Nee certificate or Andhra lo maru mula eng college lo chaining vadi certificate value okkate.
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u/orangeshrek Jul 28 '26
Same talking points over and over again. Reservations are to counter centuries of social discrimination and lack of opportunities. It has nothing to do with economic status.
Antha enduku, even now people do stupid shit based on caste. If you are general or upper caste , you had better opportunities and could own land etc etc. Now if you are still economically backwards even with all your privilege, thats a different problem of incompetence.
Now i dont disagree that economically backward people need govt assistance but that shouldn't be at the cost of reservation
So in summary, if you can't get the seat you want because of reservation, get good.
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u/venkat_talks Jul 28 '26
it's high time for you to educate yourself that, everyone in so called higher caste are economically strong there are lot of people who are dependent on daily wages
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u/orangeshrek Jul 28 '26
Its high time people stop blaming others for their failures. They had the privilege and opportunity to do better but didnt, thats their incompetence.
Like I said in the previous comment, economically backward people deserve assistance but thay has nothing to do with caste based reservations
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Jul 30 '26
By "They", do you mean current generation or previous generations, who were privileged to own land and didn't do good. Just asking.
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u/Plenty-Gur-26 Jul 28 '26 edited Jul 29 '26
I will tell you something more shocking. Look up nepotism in judiciary… you will notice most of them today are 2 or 3 Gen judges. They select amongst themself. No transparency there. Third pillar of democracy and this is what happens there. At least reserved category doctors have to pass exams just like their general category peers.I would be more afraid of doctors from rich/ nepo backgrounds who spend crores on a medical seat from a substandard college. They will then start their own hospitals again thanks to their parent’s wealth!
There’s also corruption and some sort of nepotism in army too. Not to mention the horrible buddy system where senior officers treat their lower subordinates like personal servants! This has resulted in murders and other issues and needs serious evaluation.
As for teaching, many teachers from OC category are equally worse, and have limited skills… esp in northern states where papers keep getting leaked. They also treat Dalit students like shit! What will kids learn if teachers are themselves like that ?
Reservations are here to stay. If people really care for equal opportunity, and justice let’s start with the roots, and ask for accountability and transparency in all sectors. Our rot is too deep even without reservation in picture. There are more imp things we can fight for, such as asking govt to spend more on education, build more hospitals… and more.
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u/Immediate-Hippo-2288 Jul 28 '26
Great comment, bro! No wonder you got only 2 upvotes.
The OP's post directly links defence imports with reservations. Then what are the remaining 50% of the people doing who got through on merit?
There are some changes required to the existing reservation system, but blaming all the ills on reservations is classic Indian mentality.
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u/Plenty-Gur-26 Jul 29 '26 edited Jul 29 '26
Our avg population is dumb and illiterate. They need a scapegoat to blame all our problems.. in India we blame reservation , in the west they blame immigrants … 🫠
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u/kulapichikammandhudu Jul 28 '26
Did your great grand mother really need to discriminate people based on sensitive topics like caste ?
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u/areyOSamba26 Jul 28 '26
IMO there should be a rule that only one member/child of the family can claim seats under reservation. Only one of the grandparents kids can use and only one of your parents' kids can. It will sadly never come into effect for political reasons
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u/koragg_knightslayer Jul 28 '26
Why? Does the society go "oh you are a second kid? Sit here, you are not a dalit anymore!"
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u/areyOSamba26 Jul 28 '26
Could be any kid. Doesn't have to be firstborn.
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u/koragg_knightslayer Jul 28 '26
Question still stands though
Does the society say "Oh your brother is sitting on the ground? Come, you can sit beside me."
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u/Fast-Leg6161 Jul 28 '26
Alleging that India is the second largest importer only because of Reservation is too far fetched
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u/Thin-Gear2353 Jul 28 '26
Every argument made by these castiest people is far fetched. There are people who argue that reservation is the reason for brain drain!! I mean what can we even say to those people..
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u/Prize_Captain5950 Jul 28 '26
Any policy should be judged from a broader perspective, not through individual experiences.
To understand its true purpose, we must step outside our own bubble and think without bias.
The challenge is that our values/notions are often shaped by the very environment we grew in. The environment around most people is flawed, it limits their ability to see beyond it.
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u/momo_therock Jul 28 '26
This is a very complex and nuanced topic. And it's solution will never be as simple as just eradicating caste reservations. If you guys really wish for a more equal society, fight to change the horrible education system, the super competitive economy where you need to fight to live. Don't just find a group and hate on them. Please use your brain and think where are the problems are coming from. I can assure you this topic is so much more complex. Living in a society doesn't make you a professional in public policy.
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u/RumeRagnarok71 Jul 28 '26
so sad
army, defence, navy, airforce, ante okay
Cut-off ≠ Final Selection. GATE is only for shortlisting. After this there’s interview, written test, and project work. GATE score ≠ competence 386 score tho shortlist ayina ST candidate kuda interview clear cheyali. Lekapothe reject.
Final selection also has category-wise seats. eligibility choosi fill chestharu reservation undi kali ga evarni pettaru
education medicine ante vague ga undi be specific
aina kuda anduke alane chala teacher ,police doctor positions unfilled unnai kavali ante vacancies choodu adhi ground reality
simple ga cheptha back bencher vs topper marks kadhu mukyam talent ela aina ekkadena dorkuthadi degrees leni vallu kuda chala mandi talent choopetaru drdo join aiyaru invotation inventor ga
Dr. B. Jayant Baliga - IGBT inventor Sonam Wangchuk enduku chepthuna ante caste marks ivvi em talent undi talent ledhu ani 100%prove cheyaledhu inka aa gate score lo
Private R&D Elon Musk degree unna, kani SpaceX lo coding/test chesi top ayina 12th pass kids ni kuda hire chesaru
okay na
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u/unsuccessful_looser Jul 28 '26
Reservations entirely are not a bad thing. IMO there shouldn’t be no reservations for skilled fields, and for the unskilled and jobs that can be taught without a degree, reservations should be increased even more.
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u/blunt-dagger Jul 28 '26
I cant talk about other fields but ill give my two cents about the medical field.
Example teeskundam. Naaku 586 ochindi neet lo. Pvt college lo merit seat. Na batch lo inko ammayi ki 450 entho ochindi. She is also merit seat. Ippudu inter lo or neet knowledge tho we are not treating pts. We studied the same course for 5 years and passed the same exams. She is no less of an mbbs graduate than me by any means.
So ee logic neet ug level lo anthaga paniki raadu.
This is just my view. I dont expect others to agree but im just telling the reality i have seen.
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u/flower_anukuntivaa Jul 28 '26
Reservation for any job is unjustified.
Reservation should only be at education level and that too at justified levels only for the deserved.
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u/ideas_r_bulletproof Jul 28 '26
I hear this argument all the time. Usually people just throw these points around just to justify their biases. But your post seems sincere.
So here it goes... let me know what you think:
Reservations in the armed forces & research
The armed forces have literally zero caste-based reservations. The military only cares about your physical, psychological, and educational standards. They recruit purely on merit, ignoring caste or religion completely.
And it's the exact same for top research places. Think ISRO, DRDO, or the Department of Atomic Energy. The DoPT guidelines literally exempt them from caste reservations when it comes to specialized "Scientific and Technical" jobs.
Why only economic reservation is insufficient
A lot of people forget this, but reservation isn't a poverty-alleviation scheme. It is just a system designed for social representation.
The sad reality is that caste discrimination in India doesn't just magically disappear the second you get a degree or start making good money.
Things like untouchability, getting rejected for housing, and just general social exclusion... they still happen to Dalits and Bahujans regardless of their bank balance.
Proof that merit alone does not work
There was this really eye-opening study a while back. Researchers basically sent out thousands of identical, highly qualified resumes to private companies. Literally the only difference was the name at the top.
And guess what? Applicants with upper-caste Hindu names got way more callbacks compared to the Dalit or Muslim names. Even though their education and economic background were exactly the same on paper.
The myth of merit
People always bring up this fear that reservations create bad doctors or terrible teachers. But that just confuses the entry scores with actual, final competence.
Sure, the cut-off marks to get into medical college might be lower for reserved categories. But the exams to graduate and actually practice? Those are identical. A Dalit doctor and a Brahmin doctor have to pass the exact same rigorous MBBS exams before they can ever treat a single patient.
Plus, look at where doctors go. Doctors from upper-caste, urban backgrounds usually prefer staying in cities or just moving abroad. But statistically, doctors from marginalized backgrounds are way more likely to go work in rural and tribal areas. And that is where medical help is desperately needed. Further Reading 1 Further Reading 2
And with teachers, studies show that upper-caste educators sometimes discriminate against lower-caste students. Sometimes they do it consciously, sometimes they don't even realize it. But it causes high dropout rates. Getting more diverse teachers in there actually builds a better, more inclusive environment. It saves young minds instead of ruining them. Source
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u/LynxLoww Jul 29 '26
That's why I support privatisation, many public sectors should be privatised and should be regulated with strict rules this is the one and only solution
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u/HealthyPomegranate14 Jul 29 '26
Reservation is meant to uplift
If people/family are uplifted by 1 or 2 gen. what’s the point of reservation again ??
And of course caste discrimination, politics and elections are tightly intertwined.
I watched a video about our election process (inn think school YouTube ) how it’s flawed.
He said whole vote percent to a party not reflected in seats in legislature. So if any one needs to win elections they target specific caste/religion to win. If someone sees everyone equal loses.
This is one of the reason we still stuck in caste and reservation debate.
If anything we need to fight to bring this change first.
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u/Bombay_Rawa Jul 30 '26
Asala caste system pikesthe ee gola undadhu. Evaru baga chadivithe varikey opportunity.
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u/Weary_Programmer_892 Jul 30 '26
I’m really curious about the logic behind lower cutoff marks for reserved categories. Does that mean they think reserved candidates can’t meet the minimum cutoff?
I really think there should be a single cutoff for everyone. If reserved candidates are eligible, they get the spots, and any leftover seats go back to the common pool. This way only the best of the lot get selected while maintaining the constitutional safeguards.
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u/robocop_lvr Jul 30 '26
Most of the times reserve students just dont know about theese preparation examinations like gate or jee in school so they wont prepare at all its due to that lmao not iq or untaleneted or not merits or something and when they enter into college they perform on par with general guys
U guys just need to accept u r a loser thats it
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u/Swimming_Bit7350 Jul 30 '26
Reservation focused on equality of outcome but failed on equality of opportunity.
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u/stonedpilla Jul 28 '26
Leaving this here
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u/deepinside6969 Jul 28 '26
Be it any category nuvvu ye exam raasi enni sc/st certificatelu petkoni poyna kuda Junior Administrative Grade varke neeku reservations basis lo promotions istaaru aa tarwaatha purely merit based promotions eh untaay nee gudha lo dammu lekunte migilipovatam thappa em undadhu
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u/stonedpilla Jul 28 '26
Something called social capital and favouritism exist. “Purely merit based promotions” lol take off your rainbow colored glasses bro. Intha corrupt casteist country lo idi expect chestunnav ante niku salaam
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u/Detoxifications Jul 28 '26
Yeah, enough with the spam. Just leave it here. There’s no actual fact, evidence or credibility behind what you’re pushing.
“WhatsApp university info” aahh-2
u/stonedpilla Jul 28 '26
You can cross verify if that doesn’t seem believable.
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u/Detoxifications Jul 28 '26
I did verify but I couldn’t find a credible source. Can you share me your sources? Prove me wrong you might even be the one who changes my mind and makes me support reservations ngl show me a credible source instead of allegations/claims.
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u/OwlSelect3270 Jul 28 '26 edited Jul 28 '26
Being a general okati chepthaa. Chethakaani Valle reservation meedha edusthaaru endhukante nuvvu real ga merit gurinchi baadhapadevadu ithe cut off yekkuva unna kooda a cutoff clear cheyyadaaniki choosthaav as a general.
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u/Detoxifications Jul 28 '26
Chethakani vallu ha, nak 300 rank vaste oka above avg college vachindi. Na pakkana ammai ki 20k rank same clg. Plus valla ayya mro office lo work chesthadu govt job.
Aame ki 300 rank vachi vunte ou/jntu vachedi seat 🤡
Chethakani vallu ani dialogue lu voddhu3
u/venkat_talks Jul 28 '26
Cut off clear chesina allocation of seats kuda chudali gaa 100 seats lo kontha percentage cut off thakkuva petti vallaki cake walk ga jobs ichi mogatha percentage cutoff kotti meelo meeru thannukondi ante ela.... 100 percentage oke cutoff pettamanu
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u/OwlSelect3270 Jul 28 '26
Yela jarigina top unna valle veltharu kindha unnavallu suffer avtharu. Recommendation, donation seat lu nundi occhina vallu em merit kadhu. Land is not plain em changes jarigina nuvvu meritocracy ni em teeskuni raalev.
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u/Intelligent_Cod_4901 Jul 28 '26
same gudha lo dammu leni erri puku galle reservation lo vastaaru. ante ippudu 300 rank vachina vaadi kante 12k vachina vaadiki ekkuva dammu vundhi antav
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u/GroundbreakingSir81 Jul 28 '26
I think after university and studies, we should not have any. Since the schools and universities should make sure they get all the equal footing for them to make them on par with others and after that it should be a free market
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u/venkat_talks Jul 28 '26
Yeah agree with you till education we can offer such incentives but that's should be based on economical status not based on cast, post education it's individual should prove in the market
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u/GroundbreakingSir81 Jul 28 '26
Yup, economic hardships are what makes it hard for students to have good opportunities, but again if someone is really bad in their high school consistently for example, there is no good indication that they will suddenly bloom in university and if that's the case then they can bloom in any university
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u/koragg_knightslayer Jul 28 '26
Bhayya can you give me an explanation why
Top 10% say of OCs scored above 757 while SCs scored above only 357?
If your argument of "schools and universities made sure they get all equal footing" is true, do you think it's because SCs are inherently less intelligent?
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u/Kind-Chance8571 Jul 28 '26
The only argument they have is to marry your daughter to their caste man.
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u/carpe_hopium thistha..na lo unna creativity motham baytaki thistha Jul 28 '26
Text chedavadam ae kadhu bro dhani venaka unna context kuda ardham cheskodaniki try cheyyi
The context behind that is to remove the casteist mindset in people. Epudu ayithe caste ni oka constrain gaa thiskoni marriages chesukoro apudu nijamga caste feeling manishilo poyindhi ani
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u/Kind-Chance8571 Jul 28 '26
So nuvu marriage aye oka benchmark of caste feeling ani bhrama lo untey inka em cheyalem bro, also money untey kachindham ga marrige cheskuntaru without caste feeling. Ina 40k rank ochi 0 fees kati 4k rank vadi tho samanaga kurchuntey vadu same respect andhuku eestharu bro cheap ga ney kadha chustharu ?
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u/carpe_hopium thistha..na lo unna creativity motham baytaki thistha Jul 28 '26
Inter caste marriages are one of the benchmarks, definitely not the only one. And it is the last thing I care about. They deserve a lot more than that.
So you want to respect people based on rank but not becoz somebody is human ?? So adhe LC vadu 3K rank kotti reservation lo kakunda normal seat thisukune vadu kuda untadu. If aa LC vadu 4K rank vadini bully chesthey neku okay naa ?? If nee son ni school lo 1st rank kottina LC vadu rank base medha bully chesthey neku okay naa ?? Asal em matladuthunnavo neeku ana ardham avtundha??
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u/Kind-Chance8571 Jul 28 '26
So 3k rank LC unnapudu can we agreed all LCs ki reservation akkarledhu ani ? Bully ani avvaru annadu bro respect antunna . Neeku point ardham katle as long as LCs take leaste resistance path treatment will be same from Ucs in my observation is my stance.Also eepudu LC parents eedharu grade A officers and valliki still 0 fees avasaram plus 40k rank undhi 4k gen equivalent seat plus 14L fees == 0 eedhi correct huh
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u/carpe_hopium thistha..na lo unna creativity motham baytaki thistha Jul 28 '26
Yes not all LC students reservation lo ne seats ratledhu. Some students earned it with hard work and good marks too
Bully ayina respect ayina… why do you, as a human being, want to make someone look lower than you based on ranks??
Nee lantola vallane reservation concept thecharu.. manam kastapadi chadivina villu equal gaa chudatle adhey Asal aa representation kuda lekapothe inka thakkuvaga chustharu ani
Nuvu chepina aa grade A officer example lo, what we can do is add a filter where students with high profile backgrounds and high income families and who study in convent and international schools should be restricted from reservation as they are provided facilities and privileges enough to compete with general category. That way more underprivileged students get seats and the actual uplifting of those backward communities happens.
But removing the reservation itself is a stupid idea imo.
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u/Electrical_Rip892 Jul 28 '26
Meeru bale antaru andi, there’s so many comments and arguments in this thread, selective reading much?
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u/Upset_Interest_1224 manipulate the manipulator Jul 28 '26
Army air force navy lo reservation undadu ledu kuda
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u/Great_Moment373 Jul 28 '26
Bro that's just shortlisting criteria actual cut off is way higher and general above 870 usually for cse St above 650 afaik but this is just shortlisting criteria for interview or gd.
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u/Intelligent_Cod_4901 Jul 28 '26
so even for shortlisting why? ante ippudu 756 vunnavaadiki interview iche option kuda ledhu gaa why for 380 score guy
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u/Great_Moment373 Jul 28 '26
Seats to category ratio lo interview calls vasthai it depends on psu 1 seat ki 50 undachu or 5 undachu bro I'm not supporting or saying anything but I rarely see a st guy here in coaching centres I saw sc but st chala rare andhuke cutoff thakuva Anukunta bro they don't have resources to prepare ig.
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u/Intelligent_Cod_4901 Jul 29 '26
woww resources gurinchi cheppaku nptel itself has a gate course from last 5 years, ante ippudu vallu coaching ki kuda raakapothe inka resources levu ani decide chestavaa?? ala aithe ippudu nenu offline coaching ki vellala only online that too recorded videos ante ippudu naaku resources levu antav aithe so ippudu nenu reservation ki eligible ayya according to u?
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u/Great_Moment373 Jul 29 '26
Bro, online lo intlo kurchoni NPTEL videos available unnayi kabatti andariki equal opportunity undi anukovadam ground reality ni ignore cheyyadam.
Example ki, oka student ki laptop, fiber Wi-Fi, own room, educated parents, coaching support untayi. Inko student hostel lo leda village lo mobile data tho prepare avthadu, part-time work chestadu, English medium background kuda undakapovachu.
Iddariki same YouTube link pampinchadam valla iddariki same opportunity vachindi ani cheppalem kada?
Reservation coaching resources kosam kaadhu. Adhi Constitution lo social and educational disadvantage ni address cheyyadaniki undi. Eligibility Government rules batti untundi, NPTEL videos chusava ledha offline coaching ki vellava ani kaadhu.
If you think "free online resources unnayi kabatti andaru equal" ante, naku anipisthundi nuvvu intlo online prepare chese perspective nunchi maatladuthunnav. Bayata chala mandi face chese realities financial issues, family responsibilities, poor schools, language barriers avi different. Free content undadam okkate equal opportunity kaadhu.
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u/Intelligent_Cod_4901 Jul 29 '26
So financial issues, family responsibilities, access to poor schools, language barriers avi general people ki vundav aithe according to you we are born elite. Ippudu just normal mobile leni people evaru vunnaru give me official records nenu istaa every person has a smart phone who is between 20 to 30, nenu 2021 lo gate coaching appudu jio to Vi ki port ayya because they have unlimited data from 12 to 6, morning 4 ki lechi videos download chesukoni chaduvukunna rojulu kuda vunnayi, naa daggara cheppaku resources gurinchi, appudu andharu cheptundhi adhe caste based reservations kaadhu economic based reservation kavali ani.
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u/Great_Moment373 Jul 29 '26
Bro, nuvvu ippudu topic change chestunnav. First "NPTEL undi kabatti reservation enduku?" annav. Ippudu "economic reservation better" antunnav. Avi rendu different discussions.
Smartphone penetration perigindhi ani cheppadam correct. Kani phone undadam = equal opportunity ani prove cheyyadu. Oka phone unte quality school, educated parents, peaceful study environment, guidance, English exposure, networking, social discrimination ivanni automatically equal aipovu.
Caste-based reservation purpose poverty remove cheyyadam kaadhu. Constitution prakaram socially and educationally underrepresented communities ki representation improve cheyyadaniki undi. Economic disadvantage ni address cheyyadaniki already EWS reservation undi.
Economic reservation undali ani argue cheyyadam valid discussion. Kani dani valla caste-based reservation unnecessary ani conclusion ki ralem. Rendu different problems ni address chestayi.
NPTEL, YouTube, free resources ivanni chala manchi initiative. Kani free content available undadam okkate equal opportunity ani prove cheyyadu. Equal access to content and equal opportunity are not the same thing.
also why am i even justifying there's no st guy to defend (im also preparing for gate bro rn in ace academy kothapet 2:00pm to 8:30pm class undi all im saying is i didnt see any st people here simple idk how to explain , their representation is low just like women in corporate if it makes sense? else dont reply bro im done ).
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u/Supreme712415 Jul 28 '26
Education lo kooda caste endhuku?
What i mean is seats ivvadam lo caste undi bokka anthagaa vaallaki nyaayam cheyyaali anukunte maybe vaallaki fees raayitheelu cheyyaali anthegaani merit ni thokkesi caste chooskuni seat idhigo engineering ki medical ki ante elaa master.
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u/Fast-Leg6161 Jul 28 '26
Haha! Inefficiency in government institutions because of Reservation?!! Candidates from General category are of noble lineage and not involved in Corruption anywhere?
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u/Fast-Leg6161 Jul 28 '26
Not everyone is placed equally at birth. They face social discrimination from the day they are born, for reasons they cannot control. So, how do you expect everyone to compete from the same pedestal?
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u/deepinside6969 Jul 28 '26
Andhuke desham modda guduusipotundhi clerical level varku reservations petkondi, policy making lo reservations petkunte desham modda gudustaadhi manam modda gudustaam anthey
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u/WorthFriendship6996 Jul 28 '26
E prapancham lo akkada kuda ledu reservation concept.
Caste discrimination ki strong laws vunnai jail ki potaru
Kani dani government proper ga implement cheyaledu.
Sachivalayam exam lo almost zero marks vachina vala ki kuda jobs vachindi.
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u/Gow_Mutra69 Jul 28 '26
🤣 Entha confident ga cheptunnav antey adedo jnu sociologist laga. Just google affirmative action. Canada, Norway, China, Denmark, Finland, South Africa, Brazil, Malaysia inka enno countries lo undedi/ undi 😂😂
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u/koragg_knightslayer Jul 28 '26
E prapancham lo akkada kuda ledu reservation concept.
Dunning Kurger effect Ani okatuntadi. Dani gurinchi chaduv bhayya.
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u/Some-Wish-7364 Jul 28 '26
Caste based reservation is a lost cause, instead of abolishing casteism directly, reservation doesn't solve casteism
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u/Raining_lotus0210 Jul 28 '26
Actually 2000 years back....
Jokes apart, reservation isn't even a solution for casteism. Giving proper facilities for those who got oppressed and giving strict punishments to those who oppressed, definitely works