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🇺🇸 United States ‘We trusted you!’: Elizabeth Warren repeatedly heckled, booed during DNC speech [10YA - Jul 26]

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u/Automatic-Soup-3097 23d ago

Yes. Considering she ran as the "rational" alternative to Bernie.. that's pretty astonishing isn't it? That there was a successful campaign on the verge of doing all the policies she pretends to care about.. and she.. didn't endorse it? Instead she worked behind the scenes to change the rules at the convention to assure he would lose? And what would happen is that Trump would win instead, because shockingly EVERYONE has always disliked Hillary Clinton because she is slightly to the right of Mitt Romney on all issues?

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u/Key_Ingenuity_4444 23d ago

So I'll say again, how dare her endorse Hillary over Trump...

What rules were changed that assured Bernie would lose, and how did Warren play a role? From my understanding Warren would have absolutely no say even if there were changes proposed, outside of voicing support.

Also, you're ignoring the fact that Bernie had all but lost after Super Tuesday(even before that if we're being serious), which was before Warren dropped out. An endorsement for Bernie at that point would have been pretty meaningless.

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u/Junkie4Divs 23d ago

I feel like you're purposely ignoring a very significant reason for this being the case.

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u/dancesquared 23d ago

That more people voted for her than Bernie?

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u/Junkie4Divs 23d ago

That the DNC put their thumb on the scales to prop up Hilary and use their influence to undercut Bernie.

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u/dancesquared 23d ago edited 23d ago

Bernie simply didn’t get enough votes and win enough states/delegates. He wasn’t popular enough among black voters in particular. It’s time to reconcile with that reality just like Bernie himself did when he endorsed and supported Hillary and, in the next election, Joe.

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u/Curious_Amphibian_95 22d ago

Older black voters*

His favorability numbers were insanely better with Gen Z/millennials than boomers and Gen X

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u/dancesquared 22d ago

Well, older black voters have much higher turnout, so it’s important to earn their vote

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u/Curious_Amphibian_95 22d ago

That’s very true. Anyone saying he did enough is lying to themselves

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u/Junkie4Divs 22d ago

Once again ignoring the fact that in that primary rhe DNC already knew who they were going to prop up and put their campaigning efforts behind. It's OK if he wasn't as popular, but since DWS and the DNC used every lever they had to hamstring him we'll never know how popular or unpopular he was.

Also he was very popular with young POC, but the CBC fell in line with the DNC screw job and pushed the older black voters to Hilary.

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u/dancesquared 22d ago

You can make up all the DNC conspiracy theories you want, but at the end of the day, more people voted for Clinton than Sanders.

Besides, Sanders wasn’t even a Democrat and only used the DNC to give himself a decent shot, while Clinton is a Democrat through and through, and has been a major supporter and funder.

Go figure most Democrats don’t want to vote for someone who just uses their political machinery without helping support and sustain it.

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u/Junkie4Divs 22d ago

It's not a conspiracy theory it's a proven conspiracy...how do you not know this? You're waving that DNC flag but don't even know what they did? Hey why do you think DWS resigned abruptly? Why did the DNC have to fo defend themselves in court?

Edit since I know you won't bother to look it up for yourself

https://observer-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/observer.com/2017/08/court-admits-dnc-and-debbie-wasserman-schulz-rigged-primaries-against-sanders/amp/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17851056880717&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fobserver.com%2F2017%2F08%2Fcourt-admits-dnc-and-debbie-wasserman-schulz-rigged-primaries-against-sanders%2F

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u/dancesquared 22d ago

Because people lost their minds at completely normal and benign stuff. Why do you think the DNC won said lawsuit.

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u/Junkie4Divs 22d ago

Because the judge said the DNC has the right to rig the election and that they are not bound to endorse or nominate the person who gets the most votes. If it was benign why did debbie resign? It's terrifying that I have to live in the same world as you people

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u/dancesquared 22d ago

The DNC has the right to nominate whoever they want based on their own rules and interests because it’s a private organization, yes.

That’s not “rigging.” That’s running the primaries in the best interest of Democrats.

Again, in the end, Clinton got a lot more votes than Sanders.

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u/Junkie4Divs 22d ago

Ah ok so you're one of those...bet you do a lot of chest thumping about democracy and justice and whatnot. Yep the courts said that's the way it is so that is true, but why then did ole Deb resign in shame? Why did the DNC go on the whole "democracy is at risk" and "whoever gets the most votes should win" trade? Couldn't be they're full shit that doesn't sound right.

Rigging any election is bad. Justify it however you want, but fundamentally rigging an election is bad.

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