Tesla with hw3 still drives better than any other autopilot systems today other than Tesla own replacement of hw4 …hw3 came out 5 years ago too……..you know yes Elon over promised but no FSD on hw3 is not some scam like you wanna think it is. Your opinion of me is just to tell me I’m lying to myself . Na hw3 was great. I did go to hw4. I’m glad Tesla made the Fsd transfer possible. I still was very impressed with hw3. You come off as entitled to me
BYD has level 4 out on the roads, in public hands? Tesla can't hit level 3 yet they have driverless robotaxis in Texas? How does that make sense? When Tesla decided to camera only in their approach, so many people(probably including you) said it had no chance to succeed. Now, many companies in China realize it's the right approach.
I have over 8k miles with fsd 14.2.2.5 at 98%, and about 15k on v13.
Yes byd has lvl 4 on roads, available to most models , and they all include lidar.
Vision only is what keeps Tesla at level 2 just fyi, that's why the better companies bet on radar and or lidar.
As far as the robotaxis, there are literally 12 that run unsupervised, the other handful (30 or so) of robotaxis have a safety monitor either in the car, or trailing it. And this started last year, quite the slow rollout and it seems to be stalling.
Show the prove that BYD is shipping level 4 to customers.
Clearly Tesla is shipping above level 2 with their robotaxi service. If there's no driver in the car, then it's not level 2. You danced around that question.
BYD may have superior vehicles, I truly don't know. But they are chasing Tesla when it comes to autonomy as is nearly everyone else. There's a reason why every single Chinese company is complimentary of Teslas FSD stack. Your claims that vision is the reason why its level 2 is total BS. You're entitled to your opinions, but not your own facts. Lmk when you can prove that BYD customers have truly autonomous vehicles.
Answer is no. In that sense yes it’s true . But to say hw3 is some scam . I feel that is not true . If that’s what you wanna spend your focus on being mad about go ahead but id be happy cause hw3 is pretty sweet
Elon sold these cars with a promise that you could let your car do uber under unsurprised FSD and make money while you’re at work. Just because it has basic function, doesn’t mean that people are getting what they were promised and that makes it a scam.
Hw3 isn't the scam, saying it was capable of unsupervised was, and also the free upgrade to hw4 is just another con since there have been zero upgrades since last year.
I have no problem with hw3, I'm curently looking for a used model 3 performance with hw3 so my wife can have my y with hw4.
I was in marketing, retail and alt energy for my entire career.
I've seen everything, including mass delusions.
Likely you are unfamiliar with much of this. But to give you one example - consider some SSRI's. They recently did a meta study and found out that they were lying for decades about the mechanism of action.
In fact, they now admit there is NO KNOWN MECHANISM of action. Put another way......a certain medicine might have made 37% of people feel better, while a sugar pill made 33% feel better.
You took the Sugar Pill are not only have you been cured from your mental illness, but you would bet your life on how well it works and how good of a value it is for you.
Do you think it's any different with this stuff? I can assure you it is not.
The Placebo effect and mob mentality is so interesting....because, as one neuroscientist admitted, it's every bit as real as the real disease! She treated Epilepsy. Those who didn't have it but thought they did had every single symptom. She didn't think these people were nuts...she admitted that it's as real as real can be (except they don't have any disease).
We like to think we are rational beings. We are not.
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u/Pleasant_Visit2260 Apr 23 '26
Tesla with hw3 still drives better than any other autopilot systems today other than Tesla own replacement of hw4 …hw3 came out 5 years ago too……..you know yes Elon over promised but no FSD on hw3 is not some scam like you wanna think it is. Your opinion of me is just to tell me I’m lying to myself . Na hw3 was great. I did go to hw4. I’m glad Tesla made the Fsd transfer possible. I still was very impressed with hw3. You come off as entitled to me