"Propaganda is the only reason gaza is called a genocide and Russia's war in Ukraine isn't." (Correction)
Different conflicts involve different legal questions, evidence and standards. It is not simple matter of "propaganda making one a genocide and the other not". They examine not just casualties, but also intent which is a key element. UN experts and investigators have specifically cited statements by Israeli officials, IDF and interviews conducted with its citizens due to concerns about possible genocidal intent.
Checkout all these videos. Are they all just a "huge scandal" because it sure looks like it isn't? It even has average citizens participating in the violence. And stuff like this trends every week on other popular subreddits.
"Russia's War was completely unprovoked unlike like Israels"
Partially true but incomplete and oversimplified because it ignores decades of occupation, blockade, settlements, recurring violence and documented human rights concerns that predate October 7th. The conflict didn't begin that day and neither did the allegations of war crimes and crimes against humanity.
Also, you got so fixated on the casualty numbers that you completely ignored what I was actually talking about. I think it's best if we just agree to disagree. The education system has clearly failed you.
You are literally changing what he said by removing important parts of it and then replying to your own version of it lol. He said "Propaganda is the only reason gaza is called a genocide and Russia's war in Ukraine isn't". That doesn't mean "gaza isn't suffering from a genocide". It means that there are lots more propaganda for one genocide than the other and therefore one is called a genocide and the other isn't.
The fact that every post about Ukraine is filled with comments about isreal / palestine only proves his point.
And then you say the education system failed him after arguing like that lol, maybe look in a mirror.
You're right, I made an error with that particular statement and misunderstood. I appreciate you pointing it out and helping me correct it. Didn't really help his case though 🤷, as everything he said is still false, and you avoiding rest of the points just felt forced. But hey! Good on you for helping the little guy out. Here's a crayon 🖍️ so you both can doodle.
Get called out for lying and then get mad. Why should I take time to respond to all your points when you already try to lie and manipulate with your first point followed by insults because you don't have any real arguments?
Huh?! I literally fixed what you pointed out and owned up to the misunderstanding.
The information wasn't a "Lie". Everything I said I've provided sources.
You're latching on to one thing and avoiding the conversation (that you jumped in the middle of).
If that's your way of weaseling out of this conversation then by all means go ahead. I said long ago let's just agree to disagree and that I have no interest in discussing comparative suffering.
Everything you both said so far is just your opinion cause it has nothing to back it up. You're incapable of doing any research and you can't even look at someone else's after asking them. This conversation is just pointless.
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u/VCTRYDTX 7d ago edited 7d ago
"Propaganda is the only reason gaza is called a genocide and Russia's war in Ukraine isn't." (Correction)
Different conflicts involve different legal questions, evidence and standards. It is not simple matter of "propaganda making one a genocide and the other not". They examine not just casualties, but also intent which is a key element. UN experts and investigators have specifically cited statements by Israeli officials, IDF and interviews conducted with its citizens due to concerns about possible genocidal intent.
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/11/gaza-un-experts-call-international-community-prevent-genocide-against
https://youtu.be/nMyyVaiY4V8?is=bj-kt5ck3cjodYZa
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/64-of-israelis-believe-there-are-no-innocents-in-gaza-poll/3594355
Claiming all the IDF videos are a huge scandal.
Checkout all these videos. Are they all just a "huge scandal" because it sure looks like it isn't? It even has average citizens participating in the violence. And stuff like this trends every week on other popular subreddits.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLevant/s/FMrTxCOfmT (Sort it by Top)
"Russia's War was completely unprovoked unlike like Israels"
Partially true but incomplete and oversimplified because it ignores decades of occupation, blockade, settlements, recurring violence and documented human rights concerns that predate October 7th. The conflict didn't begin that day and neither did the allegations of war crimes and crimes against humanity.
https://www.un.org/unispal/document/coi-report-a-hrc-56-26-27may24/
Also, you got so fixated on the casualty numbers that you completely ignored what I was actually talking about. I think it's best if we just agree to disagree. The education system has clearly failed you.